December 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

by kilon alios

mixed the posts again :D I wanted to say great work I definitely want to use Pharo in the terminal.

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

by kilon alios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:19 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Indeed and we should build on top of Scale (adding coral syntax). Just no > time for doing it. > Tx phil to port Scale and publish it. > In fact the commandline handler came for Camillo as a first step for Coral. > > Le 2/12/14 10:36, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > > Looks like dead and superseded by the .st handler. > > But this is not coral with classdefs etc. > > Phil > Le 2 dÃ©c. 2014 09:49, "Luc Fabresse" <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > >> >> Nice but I would like to know the exact status of Coral because it would >> be bad to restart from scratch. >> >> #Luc >> >> 2014-12-02 8:38 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: >> >>> I've put Guille's Scale thing ( >>> http://guillep.github.io/blog/2014/01/23/replacing-bash-with-pharo/) >>> into Pharo 3.0 >>> >>> Details on how to use here: >>> >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Scale >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 02 Dec 2014, at 12:02, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > >> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: >> >> There is no Source Code Sans :). There is only "Source Sans Pro" or "Source Code Pro". > > Yes, right now in the latest 4.0. > > But there used to be a different one, that is the one I am using, see screenshot (http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans <http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans>). I don't remember where I got it from (Igor is the author), but I have been using it for months. no, it was me the authorâ¦ and it was a mistake I made first time thatâs why I removed it (but I can package it and put it somewhere anywayâ¦ I was even thinking on create a âFont Repositoryâ where put different fonts, until I found this: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~girba/FreeFonts <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~girba/FreeFonts> which is a cool repo, but does not works completely along our versionâ¦ we will need to merge :P) > > My question was, why choose one above the other ? I replaced it with the Source Sans Pro because same family fonts works better together (Source * Pro) cheers, Esteban > > <Screen Shot 2014-12-02 at 11.57.13.png> > >> >> Doru >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: >> What is the difference between 'Open Sans' and 'Source Code Sans' ? >> >> I am using the former in my 3.0 image, and I like it a bit more, it seems a bit wider. >> >> > On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> > >> > Great! >> > >> > Doru >> > >> > p.s. Finally :) >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally in Moose. >> > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. >> > We needed to do it for several reasons: >> > >> > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) >> > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least that Iâve been told) >> > >> > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download latest image version :) >> > >> > cheers, >> > Esteban >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > There is no Source Code Sans :). There is only "Source Sans Pro" or "Source Code Pro". Yes, right now in the latest 4.0. But there used to be a different one, that is the one I am using, see screenshot (http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans) I don't remember where I got it from (Igor is the author), but I have been using it for months. My question was, why choose one above the other ? > > Doru > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > What is the difference between 'Open Sans' and 'Source Code Sans' ? > > I am using the former in my 3.0 image, and I like it a bit more, it seems a bit wider. > > > On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Great! > > > > Doru > > > > p.s. Finally :) > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally in Moose. > > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. > > We needed to do it for several reasons: > > > > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) > > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least that Iâve been told) > > > > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download latest image version :) > > > > cheers, > > Esteban > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > What is the difference between 'Open Sans' and 'Source Code Sans' ? well, they are different fonts ;) now we have two FT fonts in image: - Source Sans Pro: proportional - Source Code Pro: monospaced cheers, Esteban > > I am using the former in my 3.0 image, and I like it a bit more, it seems a bit wider. > >> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Great! >> >> Doru >> >> p.s. Finally :) >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally in Moose. >> They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. >> We needed to do it for several reasons: >> >> 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) >> 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least that Iâve been told) >> >> So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download latest image version :) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > >

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Great! > > Doru > > p.s. Finally :) yeah, it took far too much time :( > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally in Moose. > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. > We needed to do it for several reasons: > > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least that Iâve been told) > > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download latest image version :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:24, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > >> Combined with a small image, it would be a terrific tool. > > That was/is the goal of Coral. http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/ <http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/> afaik the goal of coral was/is what âscaleâ is trying also to doâ¦ the getopt library is just a command line parser :) Esteban > > Dont know about its current state. > > Thx > T. >

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Tudor Girba

There is no Source Code Sans :). There is only "Source Sans Pro" or "Source Code Pro". Doru On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > What is the difference between 'Open Sans' and 'Source Code Sans' ? > > I am using the former in my 3.0 image, and I like it a bit more, it seems > a bit wider. > > > On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Great! > > > > Doru > > > > p.s. Finally :) > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used > normally in Moose. > > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. > > We needed to do it for several reasons: > > > > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work > with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to > integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) > > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least > that Iâve been told) > > > > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download > latest image version :) > > > > cheers, > > Esteban > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

What is the difference between 'Open Sans' and 'Source Code Sans' ? I am using the former in my 3.0 image, and I like it a bit more, it seems a bit wider. > On 02 Dec 2014, at 11:27, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Great! > > Doru > > p.s. Finally :) > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally in Moose. > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. > We needed to do it for several reasons: > > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least that Iâve been told) > > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download latest image version :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

by Tudor Girba

Great! Doru p.s. Finally :) On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We changed the default fonts in Pharo for the ones that are used normally > in Moose. > They are: Source Sans Pro and Source Code Pro. > We needed to do it for several reasons: > > 1) TxText (the new text model) is cairo based, and cairo just can work > with real fonts, so we need them as default (now we will be able to > integrate TxText and start the replace of old editors) > 2) Current fonts takes too much space and do not scales fine (at least > that Iâve been told) > > So, well, thatâ¦ you will see âsomething differentâ when you download > latest image version :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 2, 2014