November 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground history

by Alexandre Bergel

FYI: Andrei is away from his computer for a few days. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > In the latest Pharo4 (at least), the history of the text written in the Playground has gone! > There is a nice publish icon but no way to get the history. > Do I miss something or was it really removed? The history is very useful and I would like to get it back. > > Thanks, > Christophe.

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Alain Plantec

Hi Esteban, can you commit your changes in the Rubric Smalltalkhub repository ? I've already added you as a contributor. Cheers Alain > On 7 nov. 2014, at 14:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Actually, Iâm (finally) about to integrate it (an alpha version). > it will be in the image next week :P > > Esteban > >> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> I would say yes. >>> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >>> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>>> >>>> Thank you a lot! >>>> Juraj >>> >>> >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Norbert Hartl

Hurrayy!!!! Good news! Thanks! Norbert > Am 07.11.2014 um 14:52 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > Actually, Iâm (finally) about to integrate it (an alpha version). > it will be in the image next week :P > > Esteban > >> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> I would say yes. >>> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >>> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>>> >>>> Thank you a lot! >>>> Juraj >>> >>> >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Alain Plantec

:)) > On 7 nov. 2014, at 14:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Actually, Iâm (finally) about to integrate it (an alpha version). > it will be in the image next week :P > > Esteban > >> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> I would say yes. >>> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >>> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>>> >>>> Thank you a lot! >>>> Juraj >>> >>> >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

playground history

by Christophe Demarey

In the latest Pharo4 (at least), the history of the text written in the Playground has gone! There is a nice publish icon but no way to get the history. Do I miss something or was it really removed? The history is very useful and I would like to get it back. Thanks, Christophe.

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Torsten Bergmann

I agree with Alain here. From what I see Igor invested a lot into this and I think it is just a problem of time once again to make it complete and usable. The demos and code in the repo are really promising! Or did I miss something? To answer the original question it would be interesting: 1. why is Rubric better than the old model 2. what are the main differences between the old, Rubric and the new (not only features but also regarding integration) 3. what is the current state of TxText, what is missing 4. how could the community help Thanks T. > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. November 2014 um 14:47 Uhr > Von: "Alain Plantec" <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> > An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric? > > > > On 7 nov. 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > > I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) > > Hi Norbert, > I really don't think so. Have a look. > TxText is a real perl, I can't believe it will not be released. > Cheers > Alain > > > > > Norbert > > > >> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> > >> I would say yes. > >> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) > >> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) > >> > >> Esteban > >> > >>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? > >>> > >>> Thank you a lot! > >>> Juraj > >> > >> > > > > > > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Actually, Iâm (finally) about to integrate it (an alpha version). it will be in the image next week :P Esteban > On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) > > Norbert > >> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I would say yes. >> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>> >>> Thank you a lot! >>> Juraj >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Esteban Lorenzano

I do not think is replacing itâ¦ is more low level, I think most parts of it needs to be rewritten when the new text model arrives, but we will still need the rubric abstraction :) And no, we donât need TxModel to integrate Rubric. Esteban > On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:29, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > What is TxModel? Is it something which replaces Rubric? Or is it something we need to be able to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? What is the relation between TxModel and Rubric? > > Thanks! > Juraj > >> On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would say yes. >> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>> >>> Thank you a lot! >>> Juraj >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by Alain Plantec

> On 7 nov. 2014, at 14:32, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) Hi Norbert, I really don't think so. Have a look. TxText is a real perl, I can't believe it will not be released. Cheers Alain > > Norbert > >> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I would say yes. >> we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) >> (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason not to do it? >>> >>> Thank you a lot! >>> Juraj >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

by kilon alios

LOL :D I dont think Igor would appreciate that ;) On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > I think we should submit TxModel to the vaporware awards 2014 :) > > Norbert > > > Am 07.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > > > I would say yes. > > we would like to have rubric everywhere we need a real editor :) > > (while waiting for the new TxModel, this is the âless pain pathâ, IMO) > > > > Esteban > > > >> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:07, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> Is it worth to integrate Rubric into Nautilus? Or is there any reason > not to do it? > >> > >> Thank you a lot! > >> Juraj > > > > > > >

Nov. 7, 2014