October 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground wrong cursor position

by Tudor Girba

I do not know :( Doru On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > Someone knows why this happens ? > Sometimes the cursor is at the wrong textposition. At least > it looks like that. Newly entered characters are on the right position. > (see screenshot ) > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ANN] Test Coverage with Hapao

by Maximiliano Taborda

Hi Alexandre. Yes, now it works. Thank you. But, the box with the legends don't show very well. Like in the attached image: [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 1] And, a question. Is there a way to exclude some methods from the analysis? I have some class methods, used for initialize some singletons for example, that I do not want to be considered for coverage. Regards. Maxi 2014-10-02 18:39 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Hi! > > Sorry, we somehow slightly messed up with the configurations. > I just took the last Pharo 4.0, and loaded Roassal2: > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' > project: 'Roassal2'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal2'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal2) loadDevelopment > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Then I loaded S2py: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' > project: 'S2py'; > package: 'S2py'; > load. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > It works here. > Can you confirm? > > Sorry for having taken long to answer... > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On Sep 24, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Maximiliano Taborda <mtaborda(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Alexandre, > > > > I want to try Hapao2 to check the coverage level of Chalten, but it's > not working (at least for me). > > I load Roassal2 and S2py in a fresh 3.0 image like you say and the new > entries appear in the world menu, but the only option that partially works > is the one for a particular class (Hapao @ Class ...) and after run all the > tests (I see the progress showing that) a MNU is raised in the method > #addMethodEdges:scope:view: of Hapa2 class because RTEdgeBuilder is not > loaded. > > > > So, could you tell me what I missed please? I need to load another > thing, which?, at least the package which defines RTEdgeBuilder. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Regards. > > Maxi > > > > 2014-09-16 20:10 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > > Excellent! > > > > Alexandre > > > > Le 16-09-2014 Ã 16:15, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a Ã©crit : > > > >> Great! > >> > >> I will go over it more thoroughly in the following weeks and get back > to you with feedback. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> We are happy to release Hapao2 for Pharo. Ricard Jacas and Alejandro > Infante put quite some work on Spy2 (an Ã¼ber cool profiling framework for > Pharo) and Hapao2. > >> Hapao2 is about assessing the test coverage of your code and is a major > revamp of Hapao1, which was presented a couple of years ago by Vanessa. > >> Hapao2 does not only list covered and uncovered methods, as most test > coverage tool on Earth will do. Hapao gives a great visualization to easily > navigate in your code, assess its complexity, and give you a great visual > output telling its coverage. > >> > >> You need Roassal in your image: > >> > >> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' > >> project: 'Roassal2'; > >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal2'; > >> load. > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal2) load > >> > >> > >> and you need S2py: > >> MCHttpRepository > >> location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/S2py/main' > >> user: '' > >> password: '' > >> > >> > >> New entries will appear in the world menu: > >> <Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.49.06 AM.png> > >> > >> You can run the test coverage on : > >> - the class classes you have modified, > >> - on a particular > >> - on a particular class category > >> - on the last class categories you have modified > >> - on the last packages you have modified > >> > >> Here is a portion of a large coverage: > >> > >> <Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 12.00.11 PM.png> > >> > >> A technical description of Hapao may be found on > http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg12c-HapaoSCP.pdf > >> > >> We are daily using Hapao to help us understand our tests. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Ricardo, Alejandro & Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Oct. 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

by Alexandre Bergel

> you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) Sorry for making some question redundant :-) > nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]). I was not aware of keybindings starting with cmd+o Alexandre > > For now, we have three proposals: > > cmd+e âexecuteâ > cmd+g âgoâ > cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I > > personally I prefer the second one. > the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ > > Esteban > >> On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful... >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 2, 2014

Fwd: Roassal usage help request: key press events

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I am forwarding this email to the Pharo mailing list. @Mailing List: apparently events with ctrl do not work well under Pharo. I have also experienced some issues with Cmd under OSX. Somebody is actually putting some effort on this? Cheers, Alexandre Begin forwarded message: > From: Jan BlizniÄenko <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> > Subject: Re: Roassal usage help request: key press events > Date: October 2, 2014 at 6:12:22 PM GMT-3 > To: Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)objectprofile.com> > > Thank you, it generally works, but there are problems with ctrl key. Ctrl+S works, ctrl+W works, but not ctrl+A, ctrl+'+' etc., might be problem with Pharo for Windows itself, found something about that problem here: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-March/043848.html > > Jan > > ----- Original message ----- From: Alexandre Bergel, Date: 2.10.2014 16:30 ----- >> view := RTView new. >> view add: (RTBox new size: 50) element. >> >> view on: TRKeyDown do: [ :evt | >> evt keyCombination = $+ control ifTrue: [ RTZoomInMove on: view ]. >> evt keyCombination = $- control ifTrue: [ RTZoomOutMove on: view ] ]. >> view open > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 2, 2014

GTPlayground wrong cursor position

by Nicolai Hess

Someone knows why this happens ? Sometimes the cursor is at the wrong textposition. At least it looks like that. Newly entered characters are on the right position. (see screenshot )

Oct. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

by Esteban Lorenzano

you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]). For now, we have three proposals: cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ Esteban > On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful... > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Oct. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ANN] Test Coverage with Hapao

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Sorry, we somehow slightly messed up with the configurations. I just took the last Pharo 4.0, and loaded Roassal2: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal2'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal2) loadDevelopment -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Then I loaded S2py: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'S2py'; package: 'S2py'; load. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It works here. Can you confirm? Sorry for having taken long to answer... Cheers, Alexandre On Sep 24, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Maximiliano Taborda <mtaborda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > I want to try Hapao2 to check the coverage level of Chalten, but it's not working (at least for me). > I load Roassal2 and S2py in a fresh 3.0 image like you say and the new entries appear in the world menu, but the only option that partially works is the one for a particular class (Hapao @ Class ...) and after run all the tests (I see the progress showing that) a MNU is raised in the method #addMethodEdges:scope:view: of Hapa2 class because RTEdgeBuilder is not loaded. > > So, could you tell me what I missed please? I need to load another thing, which?, at least the package which defines RTEdgeBuilder. > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards. > Maxi > > 2014-09-16 20:10 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Excellent! > > Alexandre > > Le 16-09-2014 Ã 16:15, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a Ã©crit : > >> Great! >> >> I will go over it more thoroughly in the following weeks and get back to you with feedback. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> We are happy to release Hapao2 for Pharo. Ricard Jacas and Alejandro Infante put quite some work on Spy2 (an Ã¼ber cool profiling framework for Pharo) and Hapao2. >> Hapao2 is about assessing the test coverage of your code and is a major revamp of Hapao1, which was presented a couple of years ago by Vanessa. >> Hapao2 does not only list covered and uncovered methods, as most test coverage tool on Earth will do. Hapao gives a great visualization to easily navigate in your code, assess its complexity, and give you a great visual output telling its coverage. >> >> You need Roassal in your image: >> >> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' >> project: 'Roassal2'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal2'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal2) load >> >> >> and you need S2py: >> MCHttpRepository >> location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/S2py/main' >> user: '' >> password: '' >> >> >> New entries will appear in the world menu: >> <Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.49.06 AM.png> >> >> You can run the test coverage on : >> - the class classes you have modified, >> - on a particular >> - on a particular class category >> - on the last class categories you have modified >> - on the last packages you have modified >> >> Here is a portion of a large coverage: >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 12.00.11 PM.png> >> >> A technical description of Hapao may be found on http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg12c-HapaoSCP.pdf >> >> We are daily using Hapao to help us understand our tests. >> >> Cheers, >> Ricardo, Alejandro & Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 2, 2014

Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

by Alexandre Bergel

It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

by kilon alios

"I will concede that the contextual menu is incomplete. We will work on that. In the meantime, the keybindings work as in the classic workspace. But, what are the many features that the workspace had and you miss?" from right click menu I use -> Copy , Paste , find , browse it, sender of it, implementors of it, references to it,. from down arrow menu I use -> Change title, create window group, previous contents (that last on i see that playground has it) "What do you find weird about "Meta"? I agree that "All ref" should be better explained. But, what do you think these tabs mean?" Meta means nothing to me, maybe you should name it Meta-Class the problem however is that the IDE does not use that naming anywhere else apart from mentioning it in PBE. No idea what all references means, maybe its the instance variables. Is there an aggreement now in Pharo to call the class side of a class a Metaclass ? Its important to decide on these thing on a global scale or else you have confusion. "If so, clicking on an entry, is the correspondent of inspecting that object. In the "State" tab, we also provide self to denote the same object as the one represented in the tab. This was borrowed from the classic inspector, but maybe it is confusing in the context of the new inspector. In any case, if you continue clicking on self, you will indeed get the same object over and over. But, that does not mean that the inspector went in a loop" yes but why allowing the same pane to respawn when clicking self it makes not sense to me. Its also confusing for a begineer. "But, what do you mean by instance side tab?" I assume the instance side of the class is the "methods" tab ? no ? "Which one did you like?" I like the basic idea of trying to extend workspace with much more functionality and uniting all tools like inspector and system browser under one roof. I like also that comments get a new separate tab and that you trying to support pillar. The State name is vague, since state can mean both instance and class variables. "I do not understand this part. Can you explain in more details?" this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGJZeajjWGU "It is not different thinking. It is a different use case :). The Meta tab shows the class of the object you inspect. If you inspected a class, then the inspector also provides you a list of its methods. " I am talking about the methods tab which also a confusing name for a tab, what kind of methods ? instance or class . I assume from the existence of Meta that those are instance methods . So why methods tab is not similar to Meta tab ? why it show only the method names and not the class and its inheritance chain and the method source of the method selected from the list of methods exactly as Meta tab is doing ?

Oct. 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

by Tudor Girba

Hi Kilon, Thanks for the feedback. I am interested in what makes it so confusing for you. It seems to me that there are quite a number of confusions, so, let's take it step by step. Perhaps we can discover ways to improve or to explain the interface. I will address your points and in the process I will ask a couple of questions. Even if they appear dumb, I am genuinely interested in your responses. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is it just me or is the Playground a big step back in the usability of > Pharo ? > > For me its Gui makes no sense. Gone is the right click menu which had tons > of useful actions now you only get like a few options. The tab thing is > weird to say the least with the navigation of the tabs being in the > opposite side (bottom) of the navigation of the internal tabs(top). No more > right arrow menu for shortcuts and many features that workspace had. > I will concede that the contextual menu is incomplete. We will work on that. In the meantime, the keybindings work as in the classic workspace. But, what are the many features that the workspace had and you miss? No ability to resize the panel tabs . > That is true, but that is because it is a feature. Btw, you do not have to spawn a pane. If you treat the Playground like a classic Workspace (and just use inspect or do it), you will not see any difference. No pane will spawn to the right. > Weird terminolgy like "All ref" and "Meta". Meta tab you have to select > the first item and then the other first item and then it displays fully . > What do you find weird about "Meta"? I agree that "All ref" should be better explained. But, what do you think these tabs mean? Also how one closes a tab panel ? Is it possible ? I tried everything but i > cant get them to close. > You cannot close it for now. This feature will be added. But, if you have 5 panes open, and you select another object in the second pane, panes 3,4,5 will be deleted and replaced with a new pane. It's like the interface from Mac Finder. I click a method and instead of opening a panel on the bottom for the > source as I would expect ,make my workspace area disappear and create a new > panel that sends me to state, whatever this is. Then I have to click on the > source tab. This is one of the most annoying guis I have used in an IDE. > >From the description, I believe you inspected a class, and then you got a tab with the methods of that tab. And then you selected one method and to the right you got a tab with source. Is that correct? The State tab shows you the object state. In essence these are the instance variables. Is the name confusing, or is its presentation? In another thread we are discussing a different naming. Ironically the meta tab has got this right , name of class - method names > and source of methods . On the instance side tab there is a different kind > of thinking , why ? > It is not different thinking. It is a different use case :). The Meta tab shows the class of the object you inspect. If you inspected a class, then the inspector also provides you a list of its methods. It's not the same thing. Perhaps this confusion will go away once the "Meta" tab will be implemented using the new code widget that I demoed at ESUG. But, what do you mean by instance side tab? > Also the inspector seems to get in some kind of loop opening forever > panels when it finds a dead end in its inspection.For example clicking self. > >From your description, I believe that you are clicking on the self entry, and then you get the same object to the right. And then clicking self again spawns another object to the right. Is that correct? If so, clicking on an entry, is the correspondent of inspecting that object. In the "State" tab, we also provide self to denote the same object as the one represented in the tab. This was borrowed from the classic inspector, but maybe it is confusing in the context of the new inspector. In any case, if you continue clicking on self, you will indeed get the same object over and over. But, that does not mean that the inspector went in a loop. > It has some good ideas in it, but I dont like the execution. > Which one did you like? > The big loss for me is the inability to create windows groups, this > functionality provided a very nice solution to the windows mess of pharo. I > can name my groups but also the individual windows and so the tabs have > short names that I know what they are and names of course I can customise. > I do not understand this part. Can you explain in more details? I can disable it via settings but maybe I am missing something here, a some > kind of usefulness because I don't understand or don't know how to use it > properly. > Let's try a bit more and see afterwards :). Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 2, 2014