October 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dd006c: 40336

by stepharo

Good question :). I do not know I would say that having the package Unpackaged would be better than nil On 28/10/14 16:26, Max Leske wrote: > I just fixed a couple of Fuel tests that failed because it is possible to create a trait with the category set to nil. When creating a new trait with the same name this results in an exception being signaled. Should we consider this a bug? Itâs not cool to create a trait in category nil but since itâs possibleâ¦ Should I open an issue? > > Cheers, > Max > > >> On 28.10.2014, at 20:42, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Oh yeah! Maybe now the Fuel tests will be back to green :) >> >>> On 28.10.2014, at 20:23, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks esteban! >>> I'm unstuck :) >>> >>> On 28/10/14 07:41, GitHub wrote: >>>> 40336 >>>> 14337 Removing a trait usage raises an exception (2nd attempt) >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14337 >>> > > >

Oct. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I am pretty sure that it is related to virtual hardware, it seems to work reliably on my mac: prometheus:pharo4 sven$ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 4.0 #40322 prometheus:pharo4 sven$ time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 seconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m5.504s user 0m0.491s sys 0m0.440s prometheus:pharo4 sven$ time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 seconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m5.539s user 0m0.408s sys 0m0.166s prometheus:pharo4 sven$ time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 seconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m6.022s user 0m0.647s sys 0m0.442s prometheus:pharo4 sven$ time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 seconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m5.539s user 0m0.518s sys 0m0.440s But how it can work so completely bogus on virtual hardware beats me. > On 28 Oct 2014, at 20:21, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > VMWare Workstation 10 on Win8.1 Pro > PharoVM compiled on CentOS6.5 > > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.473s <-- not much... > user 0m0.285s > sys 0m0.140s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.360s <-- not much either > user 0m0.257s > sys 0m0.095s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.374s > user 0m0.269s > sys 0m0.103s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m5.324s > user 0m0.338s > sys 0m0.067s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ ^C <--- FROZEN!!!! > > > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.468s > user 0m0.287s > sys 0m0.171s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.639s > user 0m0.281s > sys 0m0.233s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.331s > user 0m0.260s > sys 0m0.066s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.493s > user 0m0.265s > sys 0m0.210s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.343s > user 0m0.258s > sys 0m0.073s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.352s > user 0m0.314s > sys 0m0.035s > [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.303s > user 0m0.266s > sys 0m0.032s > > > Completely un[reliable|predictable]... > > Phil > > # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.696s > user 0m0.580s > sys 0m0.060s > > # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m5.755s > user 0m0.812s > sys 0m0.080s > > Weird ! > > Must have something todo with virtual hardware ... > > > On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:24, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > > I just recognized that Delay is working in a strange way on my linux box > > > > $ time pharo-vm-nox ./Pharo.image eval "(Delay forSeconds: 5) wait" > > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > > > real 0m0.158s > > user 0m0.136s > > sys 0m0.020s > > > > I use the vm from the ppa. What do you get when you execute it? > > > > Norbert > > > > >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dd006c: 40336

by Max Leske

I just fixed a couple of Fuel tests that failed because it is possible to create a trait with the category set to nil. When creating a new trait with the same name this results in an exception being signaled. Should we consider this a bug? Itâs not cool to create a trait in category nil but since itâs possibleâ¦ Should I open an issue? Cheers, Max > On 28.10.2014, at 20:42, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh yeah! Maybe now the Fuel tests will be back to green :) > >> On 28.10.2014, at 20:23, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Thanks esteban! >> I'm unstuck :) >> >> On 28/10/14 07:41, GitHub wrote: >>> 40336 >>> 14337 Removing a trait usage raises an exception (2nd attempt) >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14337 >> >> >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] AioPlugin is back in linux VMs

by Thierry Goubier

Thanks Esteban, this is really nice :) Thierry Le 28/10/2014 17:52, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > ah yesâ¦ this was important for OSProcess and derivates :) > > Esteban > >> On 28 Oct 2014, at 17:51, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I reintroduced AioPlugin into the linux VM. >> In Mac it is there since always. >> In windows is irrelevant. >> >> So well, if you use linux and download the latest vm, you can play with it and check that everything is ok (or the contrary) :) >> >> Esteban > > >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dd006c: 40336

by Max Leske

Oh yeah! Maybe now the Fuel tests will be back to green :) > On 28.10.2014, at 20:23, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Thanks esteban! > I'm unstuck :) > > On 28/10/14 07:41, GitHub wrote: >> 40336 >> 14337 Removing a trait usage raises an exception (2nd attempt) >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14337 > >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dd006c: 40336

by stepharo

Thanks esteban! I'm unstuck :) On 28/10/14 07:41, GitHub wrote: > 40336 > 14337 Removing a trait usage raises an exception (2nd attempt) > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14337

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

by phil＠highoctane.be

VMWare Workstation 10 on Win8.1 Pro PharoVM compiled on CentOS6.5 [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.473s <-- not much... user 0m0.285s sys 0m0.140s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.360s <-- not much either user 0m0.257s sys 0m0.095s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.374s user 0m0.269s sys 0m0.103s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m5.324s user 0m0.338s sys 0m0.067s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ ^C <--- FROZEN!!!! [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.468s user 0m0.287s sys 0m0.171s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.639s user 0m0.281s sys 0m0.233s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.331s user 0m0.260s sys 0m0.066s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.493s user 0m0.265s sys 0m0.210s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.343s user 0m0.258s sys 0m0.073s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.352s user 0m0.314s sys 0m0.035s [philippeback@CENTOSDEV zeroconf-centos]$ time ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.303s user 0m0.266s sys 0m0.032s Completely un[reliable|predictable]... Phil > # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.696s > user 0m0.580s > sys 0m0.060s > > # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m5.755s > user 0m0.812s > sys 0m0.080s > > Weird ! > > Must have something todo with virtual hardware ... > > > On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:24, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > > I just recognized that Delay is working in a strange way on my linux box > > > > $ time pharo-vm-nox ./Pharo.image eval "(Delay forSeconds: 5) wait" > > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > > > real 0m0.158s > > user 0m0.136s > > sys 0m0.020s > > > > I use the vm from the ppa. What do you get when you execute it? > > > > Norbert > > > > >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

It is even better, sometimes it works ;-) # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m0.696s user 0m0.580s sys 0m0.060s # time ./pharo Pharo.image eval '5 asSeconds asDelay wait' a Delay(5000 msecs) real 0m5.755s user 0m0.812s sys 0m0.080s Weird ! Must have something todo with virtual hardware ... > On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:24, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > I just recognized that Delay is working in a strange way on my linux box > > $ time pharo-vm-nox ./Pharo.image eval "(Delay forSeconds: 5) wait" > a Delay(5000 msecs) > > real 0m0.158s > user 0m0.136s > sys 0m0.020s > > I use the vm from the ppa. What do you get when you execute it? > > Norbert >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] AioPlugin is back in linux VMs

by phil＠highoctane.be

Marvelous! Phil Le 28 oct. 2014 17:51, "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I reintroduced AioPlugin into the linux VM. > In Mac it is there since always. > In windows is irrelevant. > > So well, if you use linux and download the latest vm, you can play with it > and check that everything is ok (or the contrary) :) > > Esteban >

Oct. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Running from the command line in Windows

by Eliot Miranda

Hi Sebastian, make sure you use a console VM. You can find non-Pharo console VMs at my site which you can test, e.g. http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3114/cogwin-14.42.3114.zip. The console VM is called SqueakConsole.exe On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Sebastian Tleye <sebastian.tleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a little question, > > I need to run a piece of code from the command line, if I do the following > in Mac it works > > ./Pharo --headless ../Resources/Pharo3.0.image eval '3+3' > > I see the result of the evaluation in the console, but if I do the same in > Windows it runs but it doesn't show the result in the console. > > Any clue of why this is happening? And how to solve it? > Thanks! > -- best, Eliot

Oct. 28, 2014