January 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Marcus Denker

On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:48, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> â Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve that slice, that the image building ends in : >> >> KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary >> >> because of my settings?â >> >> >> WE NEED TO STOP. >> > > Thatâs true, but on the other, itâs a silly comment... > In beta normally we should not change things that require people to change again code...

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Pavel Krivanek

We should be restrained at the start of Pharo 4 development too because we firstly need to improve modularization of the system. It's common that at the start of the development cycle a huge amount of various modifications is integrated and often with only little regards on modularization. Then to improve the Pharo in this frontline is very hard and ungrateful task. At the start of the new release we firstly need to change our system and integration tools to take this into account... Cheers, -- Pavel 2014/1/24 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:11, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > > EstebanLM wrote > >> *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way > > > > Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a > rabid > > cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P > > > > We really need to stop. I integrated you Morphic cleanup and now we got a > comment > on the bug tracker (from someone who wanted to work on another bug): > > â Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve > that slice, that the image building ends in : > > KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary > > because of my settings?â > > > WE NEED TO STOP. > > Marcus >

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Benjamin

On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > â Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve that slice, that the image building ends in : > > KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary > > because of my settings?â > > > WE NEED TO STOP. > Thatâs true, but on the other, itâs a silly comment... Ben

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Marcus Denker

On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:11, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > EstebanLM wrote >> *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way > > Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a rabid > cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P > We really need to stop. I integrated you Morphic cleanup and now we got a comment on the bug tracker (from someone who wanted to work on another bug): â Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve that slice, that the image building ends in : KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary because of my settings?â WE NEED TO STOP. Marcus

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

by Goubier Thierry

Le 23/01/2014 18:57, Benjamin Van Ryseghem a Ã©crit : > Just that you know I faced it again :( > I created a new RPackage, move classes in the newly created RPackage. > And when I wanted to commit the code, it was empty. Have you tried with the old Browser to see if your classes were in the right category? (When I see something suspicious like that happening, I often open the three browsers to double check: AltBrowser, Nautilus and Browser). And I have not seen anything suspicious that I could pinpoint to RPackage so far. Small bugs easily corrected, yes. Big totally out of sync, no. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Benjamin

I highly doubt of the usability of Nautilus even in one month and a half ... Ben On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:10, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > EstebanLM wrote >> *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way > > Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a rabid > cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P > > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/About-doing-things-late-1-month-before-release-tp4738… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Sean P. DeNigris

EstebanLM wrote > *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a rabid cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/About-doing-things-late-1-month-before-release-tp4738… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30717

by Sean P. DeNigris

Marcus Denker-4 wrote > 3) That definitely should be a Slot! :-) Yes! That will be fun for 4.0 :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-3-0-30717-tp4738921p4739008.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes people. *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way but the bugfixing need to make it run *as is*. Of course we can discuss everything, but any change will be, if so, in Pharo 4, not now (and Pharo 4 should start in one and a half month, so you can wait). cheers, Esteban On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:43, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > We *really* need to take care. > > From what I see, people under-estimate just how much everything has consequencesâ¦ > *every*thing that we do will need multiple iterations. > Please make sure to take that into account when pushing for something to be added to > Pharo3 instead of waiting for Pharo4. > > Marcus

Jan. 24, 2014

Bug in File Browser

by J.F. Rick

I'm not sure whether to file this bug under Morphic or File System, but when you shorten a text file and save it using the File Browser, the file length stays the same, leaving the tail end of the previous content. For instance, say you had a file with content Hello World and you shortened it to Hi World and saved, you would end up with Hi Worldrld Cheers, Jeff -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Jan. 24, 2014