January 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

by Benjamin

On 27 Jan 2014, at 20:08, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Are the compatible ? > Does one have to come before the other ? > Are they both needed ? I think we should drop > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12717/ReactiveVariable-NewValueHolder and integrate > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12684/NewValueHolder-Enhancements For at least two reasons: - I added hooks for Spec to continue working with the slice I proposed (otherwise no more Spec fix until the release) - I do not have to review it :P Ok maybe the second point is not that relevant LOL Just that I am sure that the fix I proposed works well with Spec. And I an pretty sure the other will break it :) I was not aware of another case related to this. It is not flagged Spec nor my name, so there is no way for me to guess it exists. Ben

Jan. 27, 2014

Issues 12717 and 12684

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Guys, What is the relationship between issues 12717 and 12684 ? https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12717/ReactiveVariable-NewValueHolder https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12684/NewValueHolder-Enhancements Are the compatible ? Does one have to come before the other ? Are they both needed ? Since they change so much it is hard (for me at least) to judge whether it is safe to integrate them. Sven

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by Alexandre Bergel

Let us know about your progresses Jannikâ¦ Alexandre On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:09 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Another thing, I use the package iPhone from squeaksource: > > === > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'iPhone'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfIPhone'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfIPhone) loadBleedingEdge. > === > > Is there a more recent repository ? > > Thank you > Jannik > > > 2014-01-27 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > Hum, have I the correct repository ? > I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git > > But, I just saw that this one exists: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > I should use it no? > > Jannik > > > 2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > > 1.4 and 2.0 worked out of the boxâ¦ and after my latest integration, 3.0 should work too. > I will take a look as soon as I have half and hour to spare. > > Esteban > > > On 27 Jan 2014, at 14:27, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? >> In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. >> >> I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). >> The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. >> >> Any idea ? >> >> -- >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by jannik laval

Another thing, I use the package iPhone from squeaksource: === Gofer it squeaksource: 'iPhone'; package: 'ConfigurationOfIPhone'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfIPhone) loadBleedingEdge. === Is there a more recent repository ? Thank you Jannik 2014-01-27 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > Hum, have I the correct repository ? > I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git > > But, I just saw that this one exists: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > I should use it no? > > Jannik > > > 2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > > 1.4 and 2.0 worked out of the boxâ¦ and after my latest integration, 3.0 >> should work too. >> I will take a look as soon as I have half and hour to spare. >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On 27 Jan 2014, at 14:27, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? >> In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. >> >> I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). >> The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. >> >> Any idea ? >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by jannik laval

Hum, have I the correct repository ? I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git But, I just saw that this one exists: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm I should use it no? Jannik 2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > 1.4 and 2.0 worked out of the boxâ¦ and after my latest integration, 3.0 > should work too. > I will take a look as soon as I have half and hour to spare. > > Esteban > > > On 27 Jan 2014, at 14:27, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi list, > > Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? > In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. > > I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). > The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. > > Any idea ? > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hi Jannik, I would really love to hear about your progress on Pratch on iPad because I will soon test iStoa on iPad: the constraints are more like yours than with previous Dr.Geo. It is more about moving bitmap block arround and I remenber you told me the reactivity was really terrible on your Android device. Hilaire Le 27/01/2014 14:27, jannik laval a Ã©crit : > Hi list, > > Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? > In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. > > I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). > The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. > > Any idea ? > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

http://www.slideshare.net/NazarBartosik/what-is-really-happening-in-ukraine Pretty scary. On 22 Jan 2014, at 19:06, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > My dear Pharo friends, > > I have no idea if you are aware, but now a big country named Ukraine is facing a very hard times. People are fighting for their rights while the current government tries to convert the country into Somalia - like regime. > > Why should you care? Because you will like Ukrainians. And referring to the context: we develop a lot. If you are not familiar: https://github.com/fre5h/DoctrineEnumBundle/pull/12 > > I donât want to cry here, but me, Igor Stasenko and some other pharo developers are from Ukraine, and we are extremely worried about our Home. I just ask you to think about our country for a minute. Tell your friends: âYou know, there is this nice country called Ukraine, where people are being shot just because they want to have a freedom of speechâ. And if you believe in God, please say a short prayer for Ukraine, I trust that this is important. > > Sorry guys for taking your time, but I was touched by this pull request and just wanted to share what is happening around. > Cheers! > Uko

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > maybe the launcher can be location agnostic and remember somewhere the > locations of the lasts images that where opened with it and simply offer > links to open the ones at the lasts, say 7 images, paths. You will even > evade coupling that to the OS where do you store the images that the launcher creates? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by kilon alios

"I may not be understanding what you mean, but do you know about World->System->'Software update'? I didn't. It won't update across major versions (2.0 -> 3.0), but e.g. 20625 -> 20628 no problem." last time I tried it update was broken . "People are using CI serversâ¦ the update process for the development version is *very* hard to keep alive over big transformations of existing instances. if then most people use CI servers and download a fresh image each morningâ¦ the work is very hard to justify." I am ok with that. I have solved my problem making a configuration with all my favorite pharo libraries. All I have to do now is download the new image , load the configuration and my favorite libraries get reinstalled. I could probably further automate this by making pharo launcher run my configuration each times it downloads the image. In any case I love pharolauncher, its far better than anything I have used for any programming language and foremost I dont need to use a terminal.

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Marcus Denker

On 27 Jan 2014, at 17:52, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > kilon alios wrote >> the >> whole deal of dowloading the latest release and then installing from >> scratch all my third party libraries is killing my inner child > > I may not be understanding what you mean, but do you know about > World->System->'Software update'? I didn't. It won't update across major > versions (2.0 -> 3.0), but e.g. 20625 -> 20628 no problem. It can sometimes not workâ¦ across multiple updatesâ¦ and when we have something where we upload a new image because doing it via updates is too much work. The whole update process will have to be re-thought when we build images from sourceâ¦ I think we can have it, but it will sometimes say âsorry, not possible, new image needs to be downloaded). Marcus

Jan. 27, 2014