January 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Any pre-installed (text) deserializer?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi everyone. I want to hold some data (configuration) online and load it into my image on demand with Zinc. Is there any deserialiser like JSON or STON pre-installed in the image? Are there plans to include anything in the future?

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can we install packages like in pip or gem?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

SmalltalkHub is more like a source code respository than a centralized package management. E.g. Most node.js projects host their code in github, but for package management they use npm. The same goes for Ruby's gems. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014/1/12 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 12 Jan 2014, at 18:44, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Esteban, > > 2014/1/11 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> >> hi, >> >> as Sven say, you can do something like this: >> >> ./pharo Pharo.image config "filetree://repository/mc" >> ConfigurationOfSomething --install=baseline >> >> just one for line, because we do not have a centralised repository (yet) > > > A totally ignorant question, isn't the SmalltalkHub supposed to be a > centralised repository? > > > nopeâ¦ thatâs a project repository, but not centralised. > A centralised repository of configurations would be something like the > MetaRepoForPharo30 or the catalogâ¦ and unique place/index where pharo can > find all the artifacts. Which is obviously not smalltalkhub :) > > Esteban > > > >> >> and because what we expect is that you do your own >> ConfigurationOfYourProject and then you can do the load in just one line (I >> do that several times a day, so I prepared a script that looks for a >> âpharo_configâ file in the subdirectory of the project and if is there, a >> configuration is automatically triggered. > > > I see, it looks a good idea, need to try the filetree one day. > Thanks > > HernÃ¡n > > >> >> >> Esteban >> >> >> >> >> On 11 Jan 2014, at 18:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> > It can be done one at a time, with a couple of extra parameters, but I >> > guess you already know that. >> > >> > With a little wrapper script, you could make this work. >> > >> > But is is a good idea. >> > >> > On 11 Jan 2014, at 17:48, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> > <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Can we install packages like this? >> >> >> >> $ pharo config NeoCSV INIFile OSProcess Pharo.image >> >> >> >> That would install stable versions from default repository for pharo >> >> image in current working directory in headless mode, save and quit. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 7d3699: 30691

by Sean P. DeNigris

GitHub wrote > 12634 Update > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12634 This is a poor issue nameâ¦ even for Ben ;-P ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-7d3699-30691-tp4736316p47363… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

by Esteban Lorenzano

ok, zeroconf scripts updated. they should be using a template of XXXXXX (6x) instead XXXXX (5x) cheers, Esteban On 13 Jan 2014, at 13:04, Michael J. Forster <mike(a)sharedlogic.ca> wrote: > On 14-01-13 12:27 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > [...] >> It might be needed for portability, but who says "those platforms aren't implementing mktemp(3) exactly", against which spec ? > > > Hi Sven, > > It's the library function mktemp(3), not the command mktemp(1), that specifies the template length, and it conforms to both BSD and POSIX: > > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/mktemp.3.html > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?sektion=3&query=mktemp > > Accordingly, "mktemp -d foo.XXXXXX" should work on all POSIX/BSD platforms, and it does on my various FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Slackware, and Ubuntu boxes. Likewise, "mktemp -d foo.XXXXX" _could_ fail, and it does on three of my boxes. > > > Cheers, > > Mike > > -- > Michael J. Forster, B.Sc. (Hons.), B.Sc. > COO, Programmer > Shared Logic Inc. >

Jan. 13, 2014

Cyclic MC dependencies in Pharo packages

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, if we remove Monticello package X, we should firstly remove packages that extend the package X. I tried to play with a code that could give me such order. Here it is: all := (MCWorkingCopy allManagers collect: #packageName). deps := Dictionary new. all do: [:packageName | | package | package := (RPackageSet named: packageName). deps at: packageName put: (package extensionMethods groupedBy: [ :m | (Smalltalk classOrTraitNamed: m className) package packageName ]) keys ]. depsList := deps associations asOrderedCollection. resolveBlock := [:a | a value isEmpty ]. hasResolved := depsList select: resolveBlock. notResolved := depsList reject: resolveBlock. ordered := hasResolved collect: [:a | a key ]. [ foundDeps := notResolved select: [ :a | ordered includesAll: a value ]. notResolved := notResolved copyWithoutAll: foundDeps. ordered addAll: (foundDeps collect: [:a | a key]). foundDeps isEmpty ] whileFalse. ordered. However, a lot of packages (156) cannot be removed because of cyclic dependencies. You can see them together with count of references from other packages with this code: notResolvedNames := (notResolved collect: [:a | a key ]). ((notResolved collect: [:a | a key -> (notResolved select: [:b | b value includes: a key]) size]) asSortedCollection:[:a :b | a value <= b value]) The result is that we need to remove cyclic dependencies for this packages: 'Kernel' 'Morphic-Base' 'Polymorph-Widgets' 'Tools' Then the removing order can be computed. To check that try to modify previous code: resolveBlock := [:a | a value isEmpty or:[#('Kernel' 'Morphic-Base' 'Polymorph-Widgets' 'Tools') includes: a key] ]. I think we should add it as a release test too. Cheers, -- Pavel

Jan. 13, 2014

Displaying labels with Athens on Linux?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Sergio is experiencing some serious problem when displaying labels in Athens? The VM just crashes. Any idea what we can do? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

by kilon alios

This is why we have all sort of software. For some its "reinvention of the wheel" for other using and liking the software is "the wheel as it should be". One advice I would give to anyone is never lose motivation about your idea. There are no good or bad ideas, only ideas that are not mature enough. Don't let people that are very loud expressing their dislike , make you lose motivation on your project. Everything with work can improve and will improve. Its the effort you put in. Most big inventors were considered "crazy" and "outcast" anyway. It takes time to really appreciate things and for them to get to a level that show their true potential. I am definitely very excited to see all these Pharo projects pop up like mushrooms. Nothing better than highly motivated people :) On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Sebastian Sastre < sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > One small step at a time. > > Pick one aspect and try to fix it. > Highlight the problem, propose a solution, get some consensus, apply. > > Repeat. > > > yeah, that's a lot > > But.. > > Good problem finding and good proposed solutions should inspire the rest > of the movement > > Even great diagnostics would be a step forward > > Real usability tests are the starting point > > >

Jan. 13, 2014

[Poll] What would you like to have in the next release(s) of Amber?

by Nicolas Petton

Hi guys, I new release of Amber is approaching, and trying to know more about what people would like to have in future releases of Amber, we created a poll here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1wNTxIk3LZh2JHCVL_SSst_QJmLKh6znrkRWzwD8RuE… Please take 2 minutes to fill the form :) Cheers, Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

by Sebastian Sastre

On Jan 13, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > One small step at a time. > > Pick one aspect and try to fix it. > Highlight the problem, propose a solution, get some consensus, apply. > > Repeat. yeah, that's a lot But.. Good problem finding and good proposed solutions should inspire the rest of the movement Even great diagnostics would be a step forward Real usability tests are the starting point

Jan. 13, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

by Goubier Thierry

Le 13/01/2014 13:58, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> >> So how do we start? > > One small step at a time. > > Pick one aspect and try to fix it. > Highlight the problem, propose a solution, get some consensus, apply. > > Repeat. > If you don't get consensus, still try it. If it works for you and is good enough, someone else may find a way to use it in another way or in another place. You may also be exercizing the underlying framework in different ways and improve the base code we're all relying on. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Jan. 13, 2014