September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by Torsten Bergmann

Ben wrote >kilon wrote: >> I already have started documenting my GLTutorial package using the pharo help >> tool. It wont be long till I finish that, next is nativeboost. >> >> I took a look at help tool packages , looks like classes are way more simple >> than I expected which is good thing, they are easy to extend , so I think I >> will extend them abit and use them as base for implementing my own help >> tool. I will distribute the result from my own repos (smalltalk hub), in >> case people don't like my own implementation of a help tool. >> >> Thank you all for your assistance. >> >> >> >Great that you are doing these. I'm looking forward to them. >cheers -ben Yes, me too. Tell us when you have something ready and feel free to ask questions if help on help is required. Thx T.

Sept. 11, 2013

Debugger 'thisContext' variable name change to 'self'

by btc＠openinworld.com

Debugging in Pharo 3.0 I noticed that the bottom right list of variables has 'self' rather than 'thisContext' per Pharo2.0. Inspecting this 'self' shows a MethodContext. Before I log a ticket just thought I'd ask.... Is that an intentional permanent change, or just interim behaviour ? 'thisContext' is a well documented part of Smalltalk that Pharo inherited, and having two 'self' variables shown in the debugger is sightly confusing. cheers -ben

Sept. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by btc＠openinworld.com

kilon wrote: > I already have started documenting my GLTutorial package using the pharo help > tool. It wont be long till I finish that, next is nativeboost. > > I took a look at help tool packages , looks like classes are way more simple > than I expected which is good thing, they are easy to extend , so I think I > will extend them abit and use them as base for implementing my own help > tool. I will distribute the result from my own repos (smalltalk hub), in > case people don't like my own implementation of a help tool. > > Thank you all for your assistance. > > > Great that you are doing these. I'm looking forward to them. cheers -ben

Sept. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Pharo vm hangs on startup in XP SP3

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Once I have a problem that was that Pharo was not finding the .sources, so it was trying to automatically download them from the internet. Maybe you are not connected or.... don't know, but worth to check. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Esteban. Yes, I know the issue does not happen on every XP SP3 box, > because we have Pharo 2 running ok in my work. There is no antivirus > running, and Pharo.exe is the only application that crash on start. > However, I have dumped the crash with standard debuggers, drwatson and > procdump. These are the links if you want to check them with WinDbg or > another tool: > > Procdump: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7XMfmjGRcXAWXJKdUY4eE1hQWc/edit?usp=sharing > DrWatson: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7XMfmjGRcXAWnMtUGEwLXM3YXM/edit?usp=sharing > > The dump was generated with: > procdump -ma -i c:\Pharo2.0 > > and then launching Pharo.exe > > To check the dump > Dumpchk -a Pharo_130909_075733.dmp > > I will continue checking later. > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > > > 2013/9/8 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> >> Hi, >> >> I just tested: >> >> - open XP SP3 virtual machine >> - download windows app >> - open >> - play a bit, save >> >> everything works fine for me. >> >> Can you provide more information about the state of your system? >> (antivirus could be a problem, RO of the files too), whatever... >> essentially I cannot reproduce your case :) >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2013, at 1:02 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Just to let you know the Pharo VM for the 2.0 Windows ( >> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo2.0-win.zip) hangs during startup >> with an uncaught exception in my old Windows XP SP3. There is no .dmp or >> .log file generated. >> >> This is the error signature provided by Windows >> >> AppName: pharo.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: pharo.exe >> ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 0004b73f >> >> and I have attached the SysInternals "File Monitor" Log. >> >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> <pharo2-vm-failure-file-monitor.zip> >> >> >> >> > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to bind keyboard shortcuts to messages ?

by kilon

Stephane please note that your documentation does not work for my pharo 3.0 for example according to Guillermo blog post binding closing the window of workspace to shift+cmd+a morph on: $a shift command do: [ morph delete ]. works like a charm. But your doc in the link you gave me says morph bindKeyCombination: $a shift command toAction: [ morph delete ]. which does not work. Maybe I am using an older Pharo 3.0 ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-messages-tp4707525p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by kilon

I already have started documenting my GLTutorial package using the pharo help tool. It wont be long till I finish that, next is nativeboost. I took a look at help tool packages , looks like classes are way more simple than I expected which is good thing, they are easy to extend , so I think I will extend them abit and use them as base for implementing my own help tool. I will distribute the result from my own repos (smalltalk hub), in case people don't like my own implementation of a help tool. Thank you all for your assistance. StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:42 PM, kilon < > thekilon@.co > > wrote: > >> Hi guys I am back, and I want to document : >> a) Nativeboost -> The things I learned while trying to understand how to >> use >> NBOpenGL >> b) GLTutorial -> This is a project of mine, to make a set of tutorial >> that >> clearly show how to use NBOpenGL >> >> I was to take Stephan advise of making blog posts about those things, but >> I >> came to conclusion that I don't want my users to learn those things from >> blog posts or youtube videos. I am a big fan of emacs on board >> documentation. >> >> So my attention came to help tool, I think I get how it works, I started >> making the documentation with it, questions is if there is anything more >> to >> it than the functionality I am seeing in the Help docs. Maybe a third >> party >> lib that adds more features ? > > write in any format so that people can read it. > do it incrementally. >> >> Is there a plan to extend it ? > > I do not know but we do not have energy for that :) > >> >> If I decide to extend it , do I need to commit permissions to pharo repo >> ? > > probably. > >> Or is it better to subclass it and create something more powerful ? >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Lets-Talk-about-Pharo-Help-tool-tp4707462.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Lets-Talk-about-Pharo-Help-tool-tp4707462p4707545.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to bind keyboard shortcuts to messages ?

by kilon

Thank you Stephane -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-messages-tp4707525p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to bind keyboard shortcuts to messages ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

there is a online chapter at: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/ws/ On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:41 PM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I was wondering what the relevant classes are for binding shortcuts to > messages. I wanted to create my own shortcuts for controlling the Help tool > of pharo and possibly of other functionality as well to bring pharo closer > to emacs. I want to liberate pharo from the use of mouse completely > similarly to how emacs works. > > How I can do this ? > > Is there any documentation about this ? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-messages-tp4707525.… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:42 PM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi guys I am back, and I want to document : > a) Nativeboost -> The things I learned while trying to understand how to use > NBOpenGL > b) GLTutorial -> This is a project of mine, to make a set of tutorial that > clearly show how to use NBOpenGL > > I was to take Stephan advise of making blog posts about those things, but I > came to conclusion that I don't want my users to learn those things from > blog posts or youtube videos. I am a big fan of emacs on board > documentation. > > So my attention came to help tool, I think I get how it works, I started > making the documentation with it, questions is if there is anything more to > it than the functionality I am seeing in the Help docs. Maybe a third party > lib that adds more features ? write in any format so that people can read it. do it incrementally. > > Is there a plan to extend it ? I do not know but we do not have energy for that :) > > If I decide to extend it , do I need to commit permissions to pharo repo ? probably. > Or is it better to subclass it and create something more powerful ? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Lets-Talk-about-Pharo-Help-tool-tp4707462.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to bind keyboard shortcuts to messages ?

by kilon

Wow you are awesome, thank you , thank you and thank you. Exactly what I wanted and looks very easy to do. Wonderful. Guillermo Polito wrote > Something like this? > > http://playingwithobjects.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/keymappings-101-for-phar… > > :) > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:41 PM, kilon < > thekilon@.co > > wrote: > >> I was wondering what the relevant classes are for binding shortcuts to >> messages. I wanted to create my own shortcuts for controlling the Help >> tool >> of pharo and possibly of other functionality as well to bring pharo >> closer >> to emacs. I want to liberate pharo from the use of mouse completely >> similarly to how emacs works. >> >> How I can do this ? >> >> Is there any documentation about this ? >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/How-to-bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-messages-tp4707525.… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-bind-keyboard-shortcuts-to-messages-tp4707525p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 10, 2013