September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PBE2?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Yuri I created a new repository on github UpdatedPharoByExample and I will copy the necessary file from PharoForTheEntreprise and you can get started. We will set up a new jenkins job. Now we should also pay attention that a new look should get out and we should sync with the guys there. Stef

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello2 now is part of Pharo3

by Esteban Lorenzano

too bad, I need to rollback due a weird dependency with OSProcess :( On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Le 18 sept. 2013 Ã 17:25, Luc Fabresse a Ã©crit : > >> Hi, >> >> Cool. >> Is Versionner also integrated? > > Not yet, it is the next step ... > >

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] if Pharo is key for you

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2013/9/18 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Stephane, >> >> This mail is in part a personal disclaimer and in part "a suggestion". >> >> In my case I'm chasing a big customer prospect (took longer than >> expected but we're almost there), > > cool I cross my fingers for you :) Keep them crossed ;-) >> But I think that the user base, as humble or small as it might be, >> _must not be disregarded_. > > Did we ever give this impression? I hope not. > Still my question remains valid :). I remember having read that if we want to make Pharo better we have to provide measurable contributions. As if opinions didn't count as such. They're certainly not measurable, but such expressions discourage/mute people enthusiasm (those whom have a lot of enthusiasm will stay though). Having that said, I'm happy with what I see and use everyday. The Pharo vision is getting real everyday. On the other hand, even considering myself a seasoned Smalltalker (VSE, VAST, Dolphin), the learning curve of Pharo "tools" and workflow requires dedication, is not as intuitive as one might think once used to them. Magic word for Pharo 3 and beyond: "convergence" :) Regards!

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Putting load on smalltalkhub

by Stephan Eggermont

Igor wrote: >i think you should contact Nico about how to run tests >using some test server first, and only if it passes, on deployed one :) Oh, the code was working fine ;) Really no different to copying monticello packages from one repo to another. It's just that I try to find all invocations in a package before loading the next one. B.t.w. the last succesfully loaded package was VMMaker.oscog-nice.257.mcz which is 2.8 MB. So it seems smalltalkhub could benefit from load balancing. If the image is responsible for the streaming, it basically has twice as much to do as mine. Read from mongo, and write to me. Stephan

Sept. 18, 2013

First results from walking smalltalkhub, non-merged packages

by Stephan Eggermont

Without walking smalltalkhub some more, so only for the first 150 projects. Here is a list of non-merged packages (+ the latest version). buildLatest | history | history := Set new. self versions values do: [ :aVersion | (aVersion at: #ancestors) do: [ :each | history add: each] ]. ^ (self versions keys difference: history) collect: [ :each | self versions at: each ]. 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Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello2 now is part of Pharo3

by Christophe Demarey

Le 18 sept. 2013 Ã 17:25, Luc Fabresse a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > Cool. > Is Versionner also integrated? Not yet, it is the next step ...

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lets Talk about Pharo Help tool

by Igor Stasenko

On 18 September 2013 13:57, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Yeah the refresh issue is something I will fix soon. > > About markdown, I was thinking of doing this the pharo way. Using smalltalk > syntax and creating a help designer. I assume morphic can embed morphs > inside a text. I think it would be far more preferable for a user to use a > text editor. So I am hoping to do that with Prometheas, no need for > markdown, or ugly xml / hmtl , just edit away directly, like you would with > microsoft word. Ideally I would broke everything down to submorphs. > > This is why I am here discussing this, I am still trying to do this a nice > way that people will find easy, user friendly, powerful and fun. > > well, one of the reasons why we chose markdown that it is easy to render docs in other places, like web browsers. If you start embedding morphs, you can forget about it :) > > Igor Stasenko wrote > > I support you in your effort. > > > > I wrote some help pages for NB help (in NativeBoost-Help package), > > and using own subclasses of HelpTopic, > > which allow me to render the markdown.. > > (the problem is that markdown parser is now broken, and i needs to be > > fixed).. > > another thing is that it depends on petit-parser, > > but also , somehow on xml stuff.. > > it would be cool being able to write help using markdown syntax, without > > too much dependencies, so we can (hopefully) integrate it in base image. > > > > Also, what i don't like in current implementation is that it quite > static: > > - a set of subtopics and topic contents are accessed only once > > from UI, and to see changes i had to close and reopen help window each > > time, > > which doesn't makes things faster. > > I tried to circumvent that in my subclasses, and had some little success. > > > > > > > > On 18 September 2013 12:23, kilon < > > > thekilon@.co > > > > wrote: > > > >> Ok I started coding the project , I call it "Prometheas" here is the > repo > >> > >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~kilon/Prometheas > >> <http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~kilon/Prometheas> > >> > >> I managed to add new buttons with icons, back, forth , right and left. > >> Also > >> the title of the help tool now changes to the helpTopic selected. > >> > >> I want to use the up button to move to parent help topic , left and > right > >> to > >> move previous and next page/topic. Probably i wont need down but I added > >> it > >> just in case. I will tie all those buttons to shortcut keys so that you > >> can > >> now navigate help using nothing but shortcuts. > >> > >> The problem I have is that the way Help tool is made it gives me the > very > >> top topic , and the current topic. But I would also like to have a > parent > >> for each topic. So when HelpTopic subtopic: is sent , it does not just > >> add > >> HelpTopics to the HelpTopic but each subtopic is assigne the HelpTopic > as > >> parent. > >> > >> This is crucial feature so that I can make those new buttons work. > >> > >> The tricky part here is that there is also the wiki style pragma that > >> generate topics. > >> > >> The help tool uses a treeMorph to display all topics in a tree like > >> fashing, > >> and since each submorph in the tree is tied to a HelpTopic I could fetch > >> the > >> hierarchical structure of HelpTopic from there, but the question is , is > >> this a good idea ? > >> > >> Or should hack the HelpTopic class to allow it to have a owner instance > >> variable ? > >> > >> I dont want to create messy code. I was thinking even creating my own > >> helpTopic classes etc, but I want old help to work with Prometheas too. > >> > >> I welcome any advice :) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://forum.world.st/Lets-Talk-about-Pharo-Help-tool-tp4707462p4708922.html > >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > >> Nabble.com. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Lets-Talk-about-Pharo-Help-tool-tp4707462p4708947.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can't correctly inspect ring definitions

by Martin Dias

RGClassDescriptionDefinition should be polymorphic with ClassDescription. But #instVarNamed: is protocol of Object, so why to override it there? Concretely, I have instances of RGClassDefinition and I can't: 1) inspect them as regular objects 2) use STON to serialize Because both use #instVarNamed:, which is answering nil. MartÃn On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'm trying to really understand because it depends if ring should be a layer that should be used in place > of real object. And to me Ring should be this layer. We could imagine that all the tools manipulate ring objects. > If you introduce a new message then this opens the door to isKindOf: hell (or you should add this message to object too and the inspector should only use instVarNamed: and cannot work with Ring). > I do not know what is the solution but it is not to simply add a message. > > So what is the real problem? > > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> In the attached png I show how 'annotations' is a dictionary in the >> "all inst vars" entry, while it is nil in the 'annotations' entry. > > I do not get the problem > > >> >> The reason is that #instVarNamed: is redefined in >> RGClassDescriptionDefinition to answer the >> RGInstanceVariableDefinition representing the requested instance >> variable of the *represented class* (or nil if there is no instance >> variable with that name). >> >> I know that a purpose of ring entities is to be polymorphic with the >> represented system entities. But #instVarNamed: is protocol of Object, >> not of Class or ClassDescription. >> >> I you agree I will open an issue and submit a fix: >> >> To rename the method in RGClassDescriptionDefinition to >> #instanceVariableNamed: and update the test. >> >> MartÃn >> <Screen Shot 2013-09-18 at 10.57.18 AM.png> > >

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PBE2?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

On 18 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 18:17, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> What do you think? >>> >>> >>> I agree. We need someone to take the lead and distribute the work. Do >>> you volunteer? >> I'm thinking about starting doing that myself, and if I'll manage to review a couple of paragraphs each day I can say that I can take a lead :). >> >> Do you think that moving PBE to pier will be too hard? > > No we should just simplify when something is not working at the latex level. > So indeed it would be cool to migrate the book using the pier syntax like that we will get a new one > in pdf, latex and more. > > We can set up a new jenkins script, git hub repo and get started. Would be nice. > > Stef >> >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>> losing enthusiasm." >>> Winston Churchill >>> >> >> > >

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello2 now is part of Pharo3

by Luc Fabresse

Hi, Cool. Is Versionner also integrated? Luc #Luc 2013/9/18 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > Since 10 minutes ago, Metacello2 is part of Pharo :) > Thanks Dale and Christophe for their hard work! > > Now... we have a lot more of functionality and possibilities, but I will > let the authors explain better and point to the documentation links (yes, > I'm really lazy and really good at delegating :) > > Esteban >

Sept. 18, 2013