September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to find a not defined class in my image?

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Thank you, this was exactly what I need. Sabine On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Goubier Thierry [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4709740h35(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > Write > > Undefined > > in a Workspace and inspect it; if you have undefined classes referenced, > they will be listed there and you have a contextual menu entry for > searching where they are used. > > To see that you have progressed (i.e., removed some undefined or updated > your configuration), select and do it a workspace: > > Smalltalk cleanOutUndeclared > > And inspect again Undefined. > > Thierry > > > Le 23/09/2013 11:29, Sabine KnÃ¶fel a Ã©crit : > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a way to find out, if I have Classes referenced in my > image > > which are not defined. > > > > I do this because I want to check, if my configurationOf is loading all > the > > stuff I want to load. > > > > In the code critics browser from world menu, there is "Class not > referenced" > > but I can not find something like "Class referenced but not defined". > > > > How do you check this? > > > > Regards > > Sabine > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-to-find-a-not-defined-class-in-my-image-tp4709737… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://forum.world.st/How-to-find-a-not-defined-class-in-my-image-tp4709737… > To unsubscribe from How to find a not defined class in my image?, click > here<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-find-a-not-defined-class-in-my-image-tp4709737… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to find a not defined class in my image?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 23 Sep 2013, at 11:29, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a way to find out, if I have Classes referenced in my image > which are not defined. > > I do this because I want to check, if my configurationOf is loading all the > stuff I want to load. > > In the code critics browser from world menu, there is "Class not referenced" > but I can not find something like "Class referenced but not defined". > > How do you check this? Does the global variable Undeclared not do this ? Furthermore, if you open a Transcript during loading, you will get lots of information. > Regards > Sabine > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-find-a-not-defined-class-in-my-image-tp4709737… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use pharo users mailing list

by kilon

Troll : Is it more dead than smalltalk or less dead ? :D Excuse me I have just an allergy in the word "dead" so I could not resist. I remember for 3 days in a row there was some people popping in #smalltalk irc channel asking , why smalltalk is dead, how dead it is, why the corpse still smells and what the autopsy revealed :D. I find people ... hilarious. I totally understand your dislike on stackoverflow and there is no way I would enforce my idea down your throat , I believe in democracy ;) The real thing, not the one people think they have in their countries. Plus its no big deal after all, if google can find it, mission accomplished. Actually I once asked where to post my noobish questions and I was told that pharo-dev was more than fine. Stephan Eggermont wrote > Yes, it is dead. The number of answers is getting lower and lower, the > questions get more and more detailed. > >>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18946662/if-pypy-is-6-3-times-faster-tha… > > Hmm yes, that is a question that needs to be closed. Interesting, but not > allowed. > That's the difference between a large and a small language. Or rather, it > is just > arbitrary. > > Stephan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Use-pharo-users-mailing-list-tp4709698p4709738.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 23, 2013

How to find a not defined class in my image?

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Hi, I am looking for a way to find out, if I have Classes referenced in my image which are not defined. I do this because I want to check, if my configurationOf is loading all the stuff I want to load. In the code critics browser from world menu, there is "Class not referenced" but I can not find something like "Class referenced but not defined". How do you check this? Regards Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-find-a-not-defined-class-in-my-image-tp4709737… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Extending HelpTopic

by kilon

EstebanLM wrote > also, putting your code in "review needed" would help to reviewers to > notice that you submitted something :) > > On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Esteban Lorenzano < > estebanlm@ > > wrote: > >> you submitted yesterday... a sunday... and we have a not so big >> community, and all of us has a lot of tasks and things to do. >> you should be a bit more patient :) >> >> Esteban >> >> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:56 AM, kilon < > thekilon@.co > > wrote: >> >>> I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D >>> >>> That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it independent >>> from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices >>> they >>> don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645p4709730.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >> No problemo this is why I submitted this slice to see how the overall process work and gain some experience so when the time comes to fix a pharo bug I can do it properly. yeah this is why I decided to keep code bases separate. I don't see a need for me to wait so long for a review to my code cause I will want to move on eventually. And plus I create more work for you and as you said there too few of you and you already very busy. And I totally understand that and I am here to make your life easier and not harder ;) So its no problem I will continue the effort alone, and ping this list back when I have something substantial to show. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645p4709735.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to test the same behavior with different data

by Frank Shearar

I played around with a combination of data driven testing and random data generation a while back: * http://www.lshift.net/blog/2011/09/13/checking-squeak-quickly * http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakCheck/ There is a ConfigurationOf there. It integrates with SUnit by adding a new kind of TestCase that knows how to run theories, identified by pragmas. It also features the recording of a counterexample to your theory by generating a normal test method on the relevant TestCase subclass. I haven't touched the code in a while, but if there's interest I'd be happy to hack on it once more. frank On 22 September 2013 21:43, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > in phpunit there's a @dataProvider annotation, so one method returns a > several data sets for a test method. I'm not sure that's the best design but > it's nice to have one unit test result per data set. See > http://phpunit.de/manual/current/en/writing-tests-for-phpunit.html#writing-… > > > Translating the example to Pharo that should give something like: > > TestCase subclass: #DataTest > > DataTest>>testAdd: a to: b shouldAnswer: c > <dataProvider: #provider> > self assert: c equals: a + b > > DataTest>>provider > ^ { {0. 0. 0}. > {1. 0. 1}. > {0. 1. 1}. > {1. 2. 3} } > > It may not be to difficult to implement in SUnit. What do you think about > this ? > > Laurent > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I actually already thought on this as I have similar problems. >> So far I just create a bunch of tests, passing the actual set of >> parameters to a common test method as message arguments. >> >> For different framework (not SUnit, but similar spirit), I introduced a >> notion of "parameter", each having a domain. When running test, the runner >> computes all possible combinations of parameter values and run the test on >> each such combination. I would like to have something similar >> in SUnit, but there are some issues. This is the feature I would like to >> see in SUnit 6.x, but I/we have to finish 5.0 first - I wonder if I ever >> find a time to do push it :-( >> >> >> On 21/09/13 11:06, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Last ESUG I attended the cool katas session organized by Stephan >>> Eggermont and Laurent Laffont. >>> That was a good opportunity to step back and think about my TDD practices >>> . >>> >>> To experiment with the style proposed by Laurent, I started writing tests >>> for a pong. >>> I ended up having groups of nearly identical tests: >>> -they use exactly the same objects, send the same messages, >>> -but they differ only by values. >>> >>> An example, is testing the motion of the ball towards different >>> directions or collisions with obstacles at different locations or speeds. >>> >>> Now, I wonder what is the best way to express those similar tests? >>> >>> In a short discussion before I leave, Stephane told me about tables of >>> values. It seem that there is such a support in the ruby world in the >>> cucumber framework. Do we have anything similar in Smalltalk world? >>> >>> BTW, the full ESUG conference was great. Thanx to local organizers, and >>> all people that contributed to make it a success. >>> >>> Thanx, >>> Noury >>> Ecole des Mines de Douai >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use pharo users mailing list

by Stephan Eggermont

Yes, it is dead. The number of answers is getting lower and lower, the questions get more and more detailed. >http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18946662/if-pypy-is-6-3-times-faster-tha… Hmm yes, that is a question that needs to be closed. Interesting, but not allowed. That's the difference between a large and a small language. Or rather, it is just arbitrary. Stephan

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Extending HelpTopic

by Esteban Lorenzano

also, putting your code in "review needed" would help to reviewers to notice that you submitted something :) On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > you submitted yesterday... a sunday... and we have a not so big community, and all of us has a lot of tasks and things to do. > you should be a bit more patient :) > > Esteban > > On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:56 AM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D >> >> That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it independent >> from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices they >> don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;) >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645p4709730.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Extending HelpTopic

by Esteban Lorenzano

you submitted yesterday... a sunday... and we have a not so big community, and all of us has a lot of tasks and things to do. you should be a bit more patient :) Esteban On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:56 AM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D > > That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it independent > from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices they > don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;) > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645p4709730.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Extending HelpTopic

by kilon

I take it from the silence , there is no interest in my code :D That's fine I will create my own HelpTopic class and keep it independent from pharo internal libs so I dont have to bother people with slices they don't deem important :) Makes my life easier too ;) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Extending-HelpTopic-tp4709645p4709730.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 23, 2013