September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

agreed we should change that since years. Some days we should stop and fix all the glitches that give us these hiccups. stef On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > this is most annoying to me, that UI interrupts you in very strange manner > and asks you to make a decision: > - accept, or discard the method, or cancel the action. > > often, you are in the middle of typing new stuff and source code > can be even not syntactically correct.. so, you have to discard or die :) > > what i think the solution could be is that browser should allow you to switch contexts > at any moment without asking you anything.Instead it should remember your > unsaved changes in special 'drafts' collection, which later you can get back on, > when you finish what you wanted to do. > > And the only time when you want unaccepted edits to not get lost forever is when you closing > a browser window.. (but of course, drafts can be stored globally somewhere, > then it also not a big deal, since you can simply return to your draft in different window). > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win32 Console support

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi. Interesting, what will happen if you run printing lines to console in loop and then stop console scrollbar by mouse? Will image hangs? 2013/9/3 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > I played with NativeBoost and the Windows API again > this evening with the result to be able to open a > native Win32 console window, influence title and colors > and write to it from Pharo. This can be useful for coral > and stdout support on Windows too. > > Attached is a screenshot. > > Cleaned up code will follow soon. > > Thx > T.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-09-03, at 09:36, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > And I would probably have to come and try to maintain your fork because you wouldn't be using it and let it be deprecated for pharo 4 or 5... exactly, and for each Pharo version there is a different branch of OSProcess. well, once you start working on git you see the advantages of branches ;) too bad that the monticello tools do not properly support this feature.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by btc＠openinworld.com

kilon wrote: > I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept > button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is > automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use > undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes could > help here, I know pharo users use this to recover lost changes) similar to > ones found in Photoshop or 3d apps that the user can use to return back in > time to any change he made without pressing undo continuously. > > It is annoyance and offers zero advantages as it is to the user. But I am > curious to listening to other opinions as well on this. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Switching-context-s-in-browser-while-method-is-not-ye… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > That sounds dangerous, particularly if you are playing with internals of UI or other system parts. What if half way through an edit you need to leave the keyboard, and that ends up being a few hours or longer, and you don't remember where you were. regards -ben

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

by kilon

I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes could help here, I know pharo users use this to recover lost changes) similar to ones found in Photoshop or 3d apps that the user can use to return back in time to any change he made without pressing undo continuously. It is annoyance and offers zero advantages as it is to the user. But I am curious to listening to other opinions as well on this. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Switching-context-s-in-browser-while-method-is-not-ye… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 3, 2013

Sound on Ubuntu Problems

by J.F. Rick

I'm using Pharo 2.0 on Ubuntu 13.10 and I can't seem to get sound working. Getting sound to work on Linux seems to be a common problem. While I've checked the archive for solutions, none of them work for me. I've investigated a bit and here's what I've found: Inside of the /usr/lib/pharo-vm directory, I see the following: vm-sound-ALSA.so vm-sound-null.so vm-sound-pulse.so (I added that based on an archive post that this would work) When I do "pharo -vm-sound-null pharo.image", it works correctly. When I do "pharo -vm-sound-ALSA pharo.image", it gives me an error that "could not find module vm-sound-ALSA". When I do "pharo-help", I find that the only sound driver available is "vm-sound-null", though the others are clearly there in the directory. Is there anything I can do to make the VM acknowledge that the other files are there? Cheers, Jeff -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Great. Thank you for the quick fix! Sabine On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4706299h64(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > > On 03 Sep 2013, at 16:33, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4706299&i=0>> > wrote: > > > Hi Jan, Hi Sven, > > > > in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > > (http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents) > > > > there is following entry > > > > package: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core' with: > > 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.15'; > > > > which has an invalid reference to removed variable refreshToken > > could you please reference > > > > Name: Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 > > instead > > === > Name: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.52 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 3 September 2013, 4:45:48.745714 pm > UUID: 703372ae-f1b9-4c1a-add5-b0696a4375b1 > Ancestors: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > > Quick patch to reference Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 in current > v 2.4.4 > === > > Thanks, Sven > > > or allow me to do this? > > > > regards > > Sabine > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > To unsubscribe from I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents, click > here<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 03 Sep 2013, at 16:33, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jan, Hi Sven, > > in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 > (http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents) > > there is following entry > > package: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core' with: > 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.15'; > > which has an invalid reference to removed variable refreshToken > could you please reference > > Name: Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 > instead === Name: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.52 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 3 September 2013, 4:45:48.745714 pm UUID: 703372ae-f1b9-4c1a-add5-b0696a4375b1 Ancestors: ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 Quick patch to reference Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 in current v 2.4.4 === Thanks, Sven > or allow me to do this? > > regards > Sabine > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 3, 2013

I need update of ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Hi Jan, Hi Sven, in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-SvenVanCaekenberghe.51 (http://mc.stfx.eu/ZincHTTPComponents) there is following entry package: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core' with: 'Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.15'; which has an invalid reference to removed variable refreshToken could you please reference Name: Zinc-SSO-OAuth2-Core-JanVanDeSandt.16 instead or allow me to do this? regards Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-need-update-of-ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents-tp… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Distributing File Resources

by J.F. Rick

I'll certainly create one to serve my own needs. I'll also think about how a more general purpose one might look. Ideally, it would just integrate with Monticello so that each package could contain its own resources. On the other hand, code is small and can easily be saved in each version whereas resources are quite large and could cause each saved thing to be huge. I'll keep people informed of where I get to. I'll also take a look at FileSystemST and see where that leads me. Cheers, Jeff On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Would you have an interest looking into this and prototyping a solution? > > Doru > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:44 PM, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > >> I'm surprised this doesn't exist yet. It seems like it would be a natural >> thing to be part of Monticello. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: >> >>> What I would like to have is >>> >>> -> A way to save files per package in the image in a virtual file system >>> -> Monticello support to save that virtual file system as part of the >>> .mcz >>> >>> We could clean up *a lot* of methods in the image and even save memory: >>> right now >>> the "save Base64 encoded strings in methods" means that we have the data >>> two times: the string literal and the >>> object created from it. (and the source on disk). >>> >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:23 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>> >>> yes that would be great to have indeed. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: >>> > Hi everyone, >>> > I've been trying to move things over to Pharo and may be a bit more >>> active on the list. Part of that is trying to use smalltalkhub to manage my >>> code. Since I do a lot of visual work, I tend to have a lot of images (and >>> sounds) to manage. I'd like to be able to distribute them easily but I >>> can't seem to find a way to upload them to a shared directory. In Squeak, >>> there was this idea of .SAR files for distributing files. Is there a good >>> solution for this outside of the Seaside approach of embedding the file >>> information in class methods. I'm talking about hundreds of files and >>> multiple MBs here, rather than one or two small files. >>> > Cheers, >>> > Jeff >>> > -- >>> > Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. >>> > http://www.je77.com/ >>> > Skype ID: jochenrick >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> Philippe Back >>> Dramatic Performance Improvements >>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 >>> Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu >>> Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback >>> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos >>> >>> High Octane SPRL >>> rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium >>> >>> Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ >>> Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - >>> http://spamcast.libsyn.com >>> Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value >>> Added Reseller >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. >> http://www.je77.com/ >> Skype ID: jochenrick >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Sept. 3, 2013