August 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] I would prefer to see the diff from Smalltalkhub than Git commits

by Camillo Bruni

nope, the smalltalk hub diffs are clearly minor - they are auto generate, no manual intervention needed to send them - they are only sent if the build succeeds - they include valuable information - the github repository is the place where you go to find changes, it's simply impossible to figure out when something broke on smalltalkhub since you cannot compare multiple packages over multiple times and... I thought we agree that I send the diff from github. Usually the diff gets send along with the update, but since there was a strange update that didn't change any code, the export script failed, so I catch up with the export. On 2013-08-16, at 17:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > could we avoid to get the github commits. I would prefer to get diff from Smalltalkhub. > > Stef

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoSound load error in Pharo 2.0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

jannik (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load loads perfectly in 2.0 stable: spec <symbolicVersion: #stable> spec for: #'pharo1.0.x' version: '1.0'. spec for: #'pharo1.1.x' version: '3.0'. spec for: #'pharo1.2.x' version: '3.0'. spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '5.0'. spec for: #'pharo2.0.x' version: '5.3'. spec for: #'pharo3.0.x' version: '5.4'. (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load loads perfectly on a freshly downloaded 2.0 image So tell me more. Stef

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoSound load error in Pharo 2.0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I will check. Did you check which version is marked as stable for 2.0 > Hi, > > When loading stable version of pharo sound in Pharo 2.0 there is a missing class: SoundSystem > > === > This package depends on the following classes: > SoundSystem > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: > BaseSoundSystem > === > > Jannik

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo.changes write failed

by jannik.laval

Now, without changing anything it work on my computer. But does not work on jenkinsâ¦ It seems to break when writing files. Probably, the issue with space as Stef propose ? How can I avoid that ? Jannik On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > then is maybe a phratch project problem? > because I do not have that issue. > > On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:32 AM, "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> This night, the jenkins job of Phratch failed because of an error to write the .changes file. >>>> Trying manually gives the same. >>> >>> may be there is not enough space on the server. >>> We got from time to time issues with the slave >> >> On my mac, I have the same behaviorâ¦ >> >> Jannik >> >>>> >>>> For information, I do not change anything in the Phratch code source. >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== >>>> Image >>>> ----- >>>> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/phratch.image >>>> Pharo2.0 >>>> Latest update: #20619 >>>> Unnamed >>>> >>>> Virtual Machine >>>> --------------- >>>> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo >>>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>>> >>>> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< >>>> VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> ==== >>> >>> >> >> > >

Aug. 17, 2013

Requested origin error on win8 ?

by Erwan Douaille

Hi a creenshot of what happened when i opened latest 3.0 image with cogVM on win 8. Is it a known issue ?[image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] Thanks :) -- Best regards, Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Uniformizing Pharo

by Camille Teruel

On 16 aoÃ»t 2013, at 21:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Camille Teruel <camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Also, to prevent explosion of the number of protocol names in the image, we could agree on some naming convention. >> >> For example, there are protocols ending with -ing and others ending with -ion: which form one should prefer? >> ex: conversion vs converting, composing vs composition. > > Yes this is the idea so let us define them. > Here is what I have So from your list, it seems that the convention is to use the -ing forms and to use spaces to separate words. Personally I prefer protocol names to be nouns instead of present participle: conversion, deletion, addition, comparison... But it's just a matter of taste and I understand it would involves too much changes. So do we stick to -ing everywhere? If we do, you have exceptions in your list: 'instance creation', 'initialization' and 'value' instead of 'instantiating', 'initializing' and 'evaluating' (or something equivalent). Also does it worth having both 'visiting' and 'visitor accepting' since it's the same concern and accept* and visit* methods are in different classes? Do you really want to have remove* methods in adding protocol? What is this one: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'setting' categorizeIn: #'settings') ? Because setting has no implementors. > > Stef > > > ^OrderedCollection new > add: MethodCategorizationRule forAccessors; > > "initialize" > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'initialize*' categorizeIn: #initialization); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'init*' categorizeIn: #initialization); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'default*' categorizeIn: #defaults); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'as*' categorizeIn: #converting); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'hash' categorizeIn: #comparing); > "order is important" > > "testing" > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'is*' categorizeIn: #testing); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'has*' categorizeIn: #testing); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: '=' categorizeIn: #comparing); > > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'new' categorizeIn: #'instance creation'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'setting' categorizeIn: #'settings'); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'printOn:' categorizeIn: #printing); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'storeOn:' categorizeIn: #printing); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: '*copy*' categorizeIn: #copying); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'draw*' categorizeIn: #drawing); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'bench*' categorizeIn: #benchmarking); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'signal*' categorizeIn: #signalling); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'add*' categorizeIn: #adding); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'remove*' categorizeIn: #adding); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'open*' categorizeIn: #opening); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'update*' categorizeIn: #updating); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'change*' categorizeIn: #updating); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'accept*' categorizeIn: #'visitor accepting'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'visit*' categorizeIn: #visiting); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'menu*' categorizeIn: #menus); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule whenSelectorMatches: 'value' categorizeIn: #value); > > "test cases" > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'test*' > andClassInheritsFrom: TestCase > categorizeIn: #tests); > > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'setUp' > andClassInheritsFrom: TestCase > categorizeIn: #'setup'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'tearDown' > andClassInheritsFrom: TestCase > categorizeIn: #'setup'); > > "baselines, versions..." > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'version*' > andClassMatches: 'ConfigurationOf*' > categorizeIn: #'versions'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'baseline*' > andClassMatches: 'ConfigurationOf*' > categorizeIn: #'baselines'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'development*' > andClassMatches: 'ConfigurationOf*' > categorizeIn: #'symbolic'); > add: (MethodCategorizationRule > whenSelectorMatches: 'stable*' > andClassMatches: 'ConfigurationOf*' > categorizeIn: #'symbolic'); > > > > add: MethodCategorizationRule usingMostUsedCategoryInSuperClasses; > add: MethodCategorizationRule usingMostUsedCategoryInImage; > yourself

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo.changes write failed

by Esteban Lorenzano

then is maybe a phratch project problem? because I do not have that issue. On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:32 AM, "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This night, the jenkins job of Phratch failed because of an error to write the .changes file. >>> Trying manually gives the same. >> >> may be there is not enough space on the server. >> We got from time to time issues with the slave > > On my mac, I have the same behaviorâ¦ > > Jannik > >>> >>> For information, I do not change anything in the Phratch code source. >>> >>> >>> ==== >>> Image >>> ----- >>> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/phratch.image >>> Pharo2.0 >>> Latest update: #20619 >>> Unnamed >>> >>> Virtual Machine >>> --------------- >>> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo >>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>> >>> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< >>> VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> ==== >> >> > >

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo.changes write failed

by jannik.laval

On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This night, the jenkins job of Phratch failed because of an error to write the .changes file. >> Trying manually gives the same. > > may be there is not enough space on the server. > We got from time to time issues with the slave On my mac, I have the same behaviorâ¦ Jannik >> >> For information, I do not change anything in the Phratch code source. >> >> >> ==== >> Image >> ----- >> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/phratch.image >> Pharo2.0 >> Latest update: #20619 >> Unnamed >> >> Virtual Machine >> --------------- >> /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo >> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >> >> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< >> VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> ==== > >

Aug. 17, 2013

PharoSound load error in Pharo 2.0

by jannik.laval

Hi, When loading stable version of pharo sound in Pharo 2.0 there is a missing class: SoundSystem === This package depends on the following classes: SoundSystem You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: BaseSoundSystem === Jannik

Aug. 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo.changes write failed

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This night, the jenkins job of Phratch failed because of an error to write the .changes file. > Trying manually gives the same. may be there is not enough space on the server. We got from time to time issues with the slave > > For information, I do not change anything in the Phratch code source. > > > ==== > Image > ----- > /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/phratch.image > Pharo2.0 > Latest update: #20619 > Unnamed > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /Users/janniklaval/Desktop/phratchDev/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > > Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< > VMMaker versionString git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 > ====

Aug. 17, 2013