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Re: [Pharo-dev] reflection examples

by Igor Stasenko

Hmm, given such examples, it makes me doubt, how to properly answer the question 'what is reflection'.. Because when you saying: SomeClass selectors includes: #foo is it using reflection? but looking from plain perspective it is nothing more than accessing properties stored in object, using methods, provided by object.. and not much different to accessing properties of any other object , like: point x so, what kind of access is clearly 'reflective', and what is not? On 20 August 2013 23:08, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Ask someone from another language how they count their > tests classes. In Smalltalk you can easily: > > TestCase allSubclasses size > > or write other nice statistics scripts about your programs. > > Reflection can be used to find an appropriate selector when you > know the input and the result. I'm sure you know that features available in > the finder tool: 3. 4. 7. > > or according examples from the finder tool like: > > MethodFinder methodFor: #( (4 3) 7 (0 5) 5 (5 5) 10). > > > Maybe the PragmaCollector is also a nice example: just define a method > > foo > <todo> > ... > > and then: > > (PragmaCollector filter: [:pragma | #todo = pragma keyword]) reset > collected > > > Also have a look at "Teachable" from config browser. It's not directly > related > to reflection but shows how easy it is to use #doesNotUnderstand and write > mocks. One can do other nice tricks - like implement a getter > automagically when it > is not there, ... > > Beware - you already know the "true become: false" trick ;) > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 21, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

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https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/Run=run%201,VM=vm,label=win/2… 1 regressions found. Zinc.Zodiac.ZnHTTPSTests.testGetPharoVersion

Aug. 21, 2013

Jenkins build became unstable: Pharo-2.0-Tests Â» run 1,vm,win #268

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See <https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/Run=run%201,VM=vm,label=win/2…>

Aug. 21, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

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https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=win/… 1 regressions found. Zinc.Zodiac.ZnHTTPSTests.testGetPharoVersion

Aug. 21, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] reflection examples

by Stefan Marr

Hi: On 21 Aug 2013, at 09:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Proxies are indeed interesting and not difficult to explain, but the examples I think of (such as a facade, or a logger) do not really show adaptation. Does anyone have other examples? Method wrappers in combination with setting of fields in other objects? A simple ad hoc 'framework' to map UI fields by name to object fields? Serialization/Deserialization? Mockup Objects for testing? Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Aug. 21, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] reflection examples

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:40 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am preparing a set of talks that have reflection at the center. > > Obviously, I want to use Pharo to demonstrate reflection. I am now looking > for examples that can be explained to programmer newbies (actually, > managers). I am particularly looking for examples that include adaptation > (not just inspection) and that can show that reflection is valuable. > > I already have some examples in mind, but they might not appear > particularly valuable. For example: > - inspecting a class: Object methods. > - adapting a class: Object compile: 'answer ^ 42'. > > > Scaffolding patterns (read them) > Increase productivity when brainstorming. > What patterns are you referring to specifically? Any link? > Use DNU to compile on the fly some methods or to copy methods when you are > designing a new piece of functionality > Yes, that is a nice path, and I am looking for specific scenarios that can be used for a short demo. Any ideas? > Proxy how to implement them nicely > Proxies are indeed interesting and not difficult to explain, but the examples I think of (such as a facade, or a logger) do not really show adaptation. Does anyone have other examples? Cheers, Doru > > > Any suggestions? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 21, 2013

[update 3.0] #30338

by Marcus Denker

30338 ----- 11428 Remove a buggy redundant test in FuelTests https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11428 11417 Test for checking repeated code in superclasses must not watch in nativeBoost classes https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11417 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tests-MarcusDenker.612.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Refactoring-Critics-MarcusDen… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/FuelTests-MarcusDenker.333.di…

Aug. 21, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sticky Morph ?

by Benjamin

Not existing as far as I know :s On the other hand, it shouldn't be that complicated to have a manager for that Ben On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Erwan Douaille <douailleerwan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for "sticky" morph. I means, i would like an automatic alignment when 2 morphs are close both of them. > > There is already something existing ? > > I need it for the UIPainter canvas to make alignment more easier than trying to move mouse when moprh are close to 1 pixel. > > Thanks for helping :) > > -- > Best regards, > > Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk Roadtrip!

by laurent laffont

Tom, you have to look at the colums "Lundi Ã Dimanche", there's only 2 buses on sunday from the airport, 4 from Train station / Gare routiÃ¨res (you can go from airport to train station using local buses). Maybe you can team with someone to take a taxi ? Laurent On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Tom Robinson <zxrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sean, > > Look at http://www.frossard.eu/plans_lignes_fr.phtml. Click on the > second route on the right - Annecy - Cruseilles-....Geneve to download the > schedule. The second page is the Geneva to Annecy schedule. It looks like > the blue columns are Monday - Sunday... Hope this helps. > > And if someone local from the Annecy area knows why I'm wrong, please > speak up.... > > > On 8/20/13 3:05 PM, DeNigris Sean wrote: > > Cool... Worst-case scenario, it seems that a taxi would be 100 euros or > less, so if we can get three or four people, it would actually be pretty > cheap! > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Alejandro Infante < > alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I was planning to travel to Annecy that Sunday morning from Geneva, but > i didn't know that there were no available bus. > Would be great to team up with someone. > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > > 2013/8/20 DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > >> (cross-posted to pharo dev and esug lists) >> >> Countdown to ESUG!!! >> >> My plane lands in Geneva at 1020 on 8 September. I was planning on taking >> the bus to Annecy, but apparently there is only one bus that Sunday, which >> arrives at 2200. Is anyone traveling that morning from the direction of >> Geneva who would like to team up e.g. share a taxi, meet somewhere along >> the way, etc? >> >> Thanks! >> Sean >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing listEsug-list@lists.esug.orghttp://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk Roadtrip!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I checked and the bus should leave from the gare routiere of geneves (one spot is at the aeroport). http://212.203.98.98/WD160AWP/WD160Awp.exe/CTX_5192-0-YHloYtlBaA-40E5945D/p… Stef On Aug 20, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Tom Robinson <zxrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sean, > > Look at http://www.frossard.eu/plans_lignes_fr.phtml. Click on the second route on the right - Annecy - Cruseilles-....Geneve to download the schedule. The second page is the Geneva to Annecy schedule. It looks like the blue columns are Monday - Sunday... Hope this helps. > > And if someone local from the Annecy area knows why I'm wrong, please speak up.... > > On 8/20/13 3:05 PM, DeNigris Sean wrote: >> Cool... Worst-case scenario, it seems that a taxi would be 100 euros or less, so if we can get three or four people, it would actually be pretty cheap! >> >> On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Alejandro Infante <alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was planning to travel to Annecy that Sunday morning from Geneva, but i didn't know that there were no available bus. >>> Would be great to team up with someone. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alejandro >>> >>> >>> 2013/8/20 DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> >>> (cross-posted to pharo dev and esug lists) >>> >>> Countdown to ESUG!!! >>> >>> My plane lands in Geneva at 1020 on 8 September. I was planning on taking the bus to Annecy, but apparently there is only one bus that Sunday, which arrives at 2200. Is anyone traveling that morning from the direction of Geneva who would like to team up e.g. share a taxi, meet somewhere along the way, etc? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk Roadtrip!

by laurent laffont

Hi, I've added some informations for the travel: http://esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013/Travel-to-Annecy Tell me if you need more details & plans. Laurent On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:05 PM, DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > Cool... Worst-case scenario, it seems that a taxi would be 100 euros or > less, so if we can get three or four people, it would actually be pretty > cheap! > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Alejandro Infante < > alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I was planning to travel to Annecy that Sunday morning from Geneva, but i > didn't know that there were no available bus. > Would be great to team up with someone. > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > > 2013/8/20 DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > >> (cross-posted to pharo dev and esug lists) >> >> Countdown to ESUG!!! >> >> My plane lands in Geneva at 1020 on 8 September. I was planning on taking >> the bus to Annecy, but apparently there is only one bus that Sunday, which >> arrives at 2200. Is anyone traveling that morning from the direction of >> Geneva who would like to team up e.g. share a taxi, meet somewhere along >> the way, etc? >> >> Thanks! >> Sean >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Aug. 20, 2013

reflection examples

by Torsten Bergmann

Ask someone from another language how they count their tests classes. In Smalltalk you can easily: TestCase allSubclasses size or write other nice statistics scripts about your programs. Reflection can be used to find an appropriate selector when you know the input and the result. I'm sure you know that features available in the finder tool: 3. 4. 7. or according examples from the finder tool like: MethodFinder methodFor: #( (4 3) 7 (0 5) 5 (5 5) 10). Maybe the PragmaCollector is also a nice example: just define a method foo <todo> ... and then: (PragmaCollector filter: [:pragma | #todo = pragma keyword]) reset collected Also have a look at "Teachable" from config browser. It's not directly related to reflection but shows how easy it is to use #doesNotUnderstand and write mocks. One can do other nice tricks - like implement a getter automagically when it is not there, ... Beware - you already know the "true become: false" trick ;)

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk Roadtrip!

by DeNigris Sean

Cool... Worst-case scenario, it seems that a taxi would be 100 euros or less, so if we can get three or four people, it would actually be pretty cheap! On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Alejandro Infante <alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was planning to travel to Annecy that Sunday morning from Geneva, but i didn't know that there were no available bus. > Would be great to team up with someone. > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > > 2013/8/20 DeNigris Sean <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > (cross-posted to pharo dev and esug lists) > > Countdown to ESUG!!! > > My plane lands in Geneva at 1020 on 8 September. I was planning on taking the bus to Annecy, but apparently there is only one bus that Sunday, which arrives at 2200. Is anyone traveling that morning from the direction of Geneva who would like to team up e.g. share a taxi, meet somewhere along the way, etc? > > Thanks! > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] reflection examples

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am preparing a set of talks that have reflection at the center. > > Obviously, I want to use Pharo to demonstrate reflection. I am now looking for examples that can be explained to programmer newbies (actually, managers). I am particularly looking for examples that include adaptation (not just inspection) and that can show that reflection is valuable. > > I already have some examples in mind, but they might not appear particularly valuable. For example: > - inspecting a class: Object methods. > - adapting a class: Object compile: 'answer ^ 42'. Scaffolding patterns (read them) Increase productivity when brainstorming. Use DNU to compile on the fly some methods or to copy methods when you are designing a new piece of functionality Proxy how to implement them nicely > Any suggestions? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 20, 2013

reflection examples

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I am preparing a set of talks that have reflection at the center. Obviously, I want to use Pharo to demonstrate reflection. I am now looking for examples that can be explained to programmer newbies (actually, managers). I am particularly looking for examples that include adaptation (not just inspection) and that can show that reflection is valuable. I already have some examples in mind, but they might not appear particularly valuable. For example: - inspecting a class: Object methods. - adapting a class: Object compile: 'answer ^ 42'. Any suggestions? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 20, 2013

Camp Smalltalk Roadtrip!

by DeNigris Sean

(cross-posted to pharo dev and esug lists) Countdown to ESUG!!! My plane lands in Geneva at 1020 on 8 September. I was planning on taking the bus to Annecy, but apparently there is only one bus that Sunday, which arrives at 2200. Is anyone traveling that morning from the direction of Geneva who would like to team up e.g. share a taxi, meet somewhere along the way, etc? Thanks! Sean

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem in #sorted: for some collections

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > can you add a bug tracker entry? already done: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11431#83246 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Aug. 20, 2013

Sticky Morph ?

by Erwan Douaille

Hi, I'm looking for "sticky" morph. I means, i would like an automatic alignment when 2 morphs are close both of them. There is already something existing ? I need it for the UIPainter canvas to make alignment more easier than trying to move mouse when moprh are close to 1 pixel. Thanks for helping :) -- Best regards, Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem in #sorted: for some collections

by Marcus Denker

can you add a bug tracker entry? On Aug 19, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > col := OrderedCollection new. > col add: 1. > col add: 3. > col add: 2. > col sorted. > col > > you will see that col is now sorted. This is wrong. We expect #sorted > to return a sorted collection without changing the receiver. > > This code > > col := Array with: 1 with: 3 with: 2. > col sorted. > col > > works as expected. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Aug. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Put issues from cog issue tracker into pharo issue tracker

by Nicolas Cellier

Reporting bugs on fogbugz is not a problem for me. However, the main concern I have is about the efficiency of these reports... Will Eliot have access to these reports and use them for his oscog branch? Will David have access for backporting some common bugs to interpreter VM? Will the reports be mailed to vm-dev? After all, I'm not really sure how the old bug tracker was usefull for oscog or interpreter VM... But I have the feeling that the reports on fogbugz will be for Pharo VM branch only. I'm very happy if I can be usefull to Pharo. But I'm even more if I can be usefull to Squeak/Cuis too for the same price, so I feel the move a bit like a loss. Cheers Nicolas 2013/8/10 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > Nicolas Cellier, > Are you willing to report and maintain VM bugs on the fogbugz issue > tracker? > Since you already filed reports on pharo.fogbugz.com I think this is not > much of a change. > > thank you. > > On 2013-08-09, at 09:33, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 9 August 2013 13:28, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> thanks, perfect! > >> > >> that's very nice, now we have everything in one place. > >> Nobody besides Pharo guys touched this issue tracker anyway :) > >> > > if that would be true, i wouldn't say anything.. > > > > The truth is that pharo team is most active on it.. yes. But does that > > give us right to decide > > what to do with it? > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko. > > <Screen Shot 2013-08-09 at 2.31.15 PM.png> > > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoSound load error in Pharo 2.0

by jannik.laval

Please any help would be welcome. You can find and read the configuration by evaluating: =-=-=-=-= Gofer it url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' username: '' password: ''; package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') record. =-=-=-=-= Jannik On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:06 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I tried again and again without understandingâ¦ > Now, what I have: > If I inspect: " (ConfigurationOfPhratch project version: '1.0-baseline') record.", the version recorded is 5.4 (I am hoping to have 5.3) > > === > a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > load : ConfigurationOfOSProcess > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > load : ConfigurationOfPharoSound > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > linear load : 5.4 [ConfigurationOfPharoSound] > load : Sound-StephaneDucasse.76 > load : Settings-Sound-HenrikSperreJohansen.2 > load : SoundScores-StephaneDucasse.6 > load : SoundMorphicUserInterface-StephaneDucasse.29 > [â¦] > load : Phratch) > === > > BUT, if I inspect "(ConfigurationOfPhratch project version: '1.0-baseline') ignoreImage: true; record.", It works fine. > > === > a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > load : ConfigurationOfOSProcess > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > load : ConfigurationOfPharoSound > linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] > linear load : 5.3 [ConfigurationOfPharoSound] > load : Sound-StephaneDucasse.75 > load : Settings-Sound-HenrikSperreJohansen.2 > load : SoundScores-StephaneDucasse.6 > load : Collections-Arithmetic-GuillermoPolito.4 > load : SoundMorphicUserInterface-StephaneDucasse.27 > [â¦] > load : Phratch) > === > > Why the ignoreImage change the behavior ? > > Jannik > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:27 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:18 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:42 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hum, I do not understand. >>>> When I load it with your script it works (it loads the version 75 of Sound). >>>> Now, with Phratch it tries to load the version 76 of Sound. >>>> >>>> Here is my configuration: >>>> >>>> === >>>> baseline10: spec >>>> <version:'1.0-baseline'> >>>> spec for: #common do: [ >>>> spec blessing: #baseline. >>>> spec repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main'. >>>> spec project: 'Sound' with: [ >>>> spec >>>> repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'; >>>> versionString: #stable; >>>> className: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound']. >>>> spec package: 'Phratch' with: [ >>>> spec requires: 'Sound'. >>>> ]. >>>> ]. >>>> === >>>> >>> >>> did you try with '5.3'? to see >> >> Yes, I tried and I have the same behavior. >> There is something I do not understand, and the chapter about Metacello does not help me :( >> >> Jannik >> >> >>> >>>> And I load it with : >>>> (ConfigurationOfPhratch project latestVersion: #baseline) load. >>>> >>>> So, why does it not take the stable version of PharoSound ? >>> >>> >>> I do not know. we should ask dale. >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the help. >>>> Jannik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 17, 2013, at 7:03 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> jannik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load >>>>> >>>>> loads perfectly in 2.0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> stable: spec >>>>> <symbolicVersion: #stable> >>>>> >>>>> spec for: #'pharo1.0.x' version: '1.0'. >>>>> spec for: #'pharo1.1.x' version: '3.0'. >>>>> spec for: #'pharo1.2.x' version: '3.0'. >>>>> spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '5.0'. >>>>> spec for: #'pharo2.0.x' version: '5.3'. >>>>> spec for: #'pharo3.0.x' version: '5.4'. >>>>> >>>>> (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load >>>>> loads perfectly on a freshly downloaded 2.0 image >>>>> >>>>> So tell me more. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by laurent laffont

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > > - More PWM > > What is that? > Pharo Window Manager. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~LaurentLaffont/PWM > > > - See how to merge my NBXLib fork with existing one. > > A two sentence description of these forks? > While learning NativeBoost & Xlib, I've tried several ways to have more object-oriented bindings to Xlib (see PWM repo & NativeBoost chapter). I'm still not sure that is the best way to go, as primitives are scattered among classes and makes things far less testable. Anyway, we can talk about it during ESUG. Laurent > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Stephan Eggermont

### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - Deployed a pier site www.legacycode.nl on DigitalOcean - Made sure pier can be loaded cleanly in Pharo2.0 (mostly Diego's work) - And Pier kernels can be loaded and saved as code, so Sven's tutorial on deploying your first Pharo web site can also work with Pier ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): - preparing esug presentations with Diego - prepare pier documentation on deploying a pier site with nginx on digitalocean - find out if it is easy to get Torch running on Pharo 3 Stephan

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: > > - CI jobs for Pier, Magritte and Grease > (https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/) > - Fix Magritte so its job is green > - Improve code and add features in Pharo to make a better > PharoLauncher (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher) > > ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): > > Fix Grease and Pier so their jobs are green damien I would love to get the magritte configuration not loading string enhancements that are already in Pharo. > Make use of the improvements in Pharo for the PharoLauncher > Finish the Deep Into Pharo book > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] why can we interrupt the UI thread?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 19, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I do not understand. > Can you elaborate a bit? I recently end up in many situations where the only things I can do is to kill my image because probably trap in an endless loop or soemthing silly I did. May be there is not much to do but still. Stef

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updating the Pharo Contributors listing

by Martin Dias

PharoContributor new id: 'tinchodias' name: 'MartÃn Dias'; email: 'tinchodias(a)gmail.com <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>'; description: 'Master at UBA. PhD student at INRIA. Contributor in Fuel project and in Pharo in general.'; yourself I guess my gravatar is fine. Thanks. MartÃn On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Clara Allende <clari.allende(a)gmail.com>wrote: > PharoContributor new > name: 'Clara Allende'; > id: 'ClaraAllende'; > email: 'clari.allende(a)gmail.com'; > website: 'http://clariallende.wordpress.com'; > description: 'student for GSoC 2013, using Pharo for teaching at > National Technological University in Buenos Aires'; > image: ' > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31270395/Im%C3%A1genes/fb.jpg'; > yourself > > > On 19 August 2013 08:41, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> PharoContributor new >> name: 'Alexandre Bergel'; >> id: 'abergel'; >> email: 'alexandre.bergel(a)me.com'; >> website: 'http://bergel.eu'; >> description: 'Use Pharo for research in software engineering, >> quality and understanding at the University of Chile. Contribute to >> Roassal, Moose, Spy and many more.'; >> image: 'http://bergel.eu/pictures/web4.jpg'; >> yourself >> >> >> >> On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > PharoContributor new >> > name: 'Esteban Lorenzano'; >> > id: 'estebanlm'; >> > email: 'estebanlm(a)gmail.com'; >> > website: 'http://smallworks.eu'; >> > description: 'Pharo core team. Contributor of several projects, >> including Kernel, DBXTalk, Voyage, Mars, etc. Also I work on the VM.'; >> > image: ' >> http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/193af464509ae8fbcc04abad70b72fc0?s=120'; >> > yourself >> > >> > >> > >> > On Aug 18, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Jannik, >> >> >> >> On 16 Aug 2013, at 21:23, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> PharoContributor new >> >>> name: 'Jannik Laval'; >> >>> id: 'jannik.laval'; >> >>> email: 'jannik.laval(a)gmail.com'; >> >>> website: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu'; >> >>> description: 'Software Researcher at Mines Douai'; >> >>> image: ' >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu/assets/images/DSC02023%20-%20Version%202.jpg'; >> >>> yourself >> >> >> >> Updated: >> >> >> >> http://contributors.pharo.org#janniklaval >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Sven >> >> >> >>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Dear Fellow Pharoers, >> >>>> >> >>>> As some of you may know, we have a page listing Pharo Contributors >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors >> >>>> >> >>>> This page was manually constructed and urgently needs an update. >> >>>> Based on the code behind the Pharo Consultants page >> >>>> >> >>>> http://consultants.pharo.org >> >>>> >> >>>> we want a similar data driven, statically generated page for Pharo >> Contributors >> >>>> >> >>>> http://contributors.pharo.org >> >>>> >> >>>> the new page is based on some of the old data, but needs updating. >> Many people are missing as well. So please, please, edit the template and >> send me your new or up to date information. >> >>>> >> >>>> PharoContributor new >> >>>> name: 'StÃ©phane Ducasse'; >> >>>> id: 'stephaneducasse'; >> >>>> email: 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr'; >> >>>> website: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/'; >> >>>> description: 'Research director at INRIA Lille leading the RMoD >> Team. Pharo board member and president of ESUG.'; >> >>>> image: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/StefFingerOnNose128.jpg'; >> >>>> yourself >> >>>> >> >>>> PharoContributor new >> >>>> name: 'Camillo Bruni'; >> >>>> email: 'camillobruni(a)gmail.com'; >> >>>> description: 'Cosmopolitan Swiss Hacker, currently at INRIA'; >> >>>> yourself >> >>>> >> >>>> Some notes: >> >>>> >> >>>> - id is only needed when your name contains non-ascii characters >> >>>> - email will default to pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org if missing >> >>>> - website will default to a Google search for your name if a URL is >> missing >> >>>> - image can be omitted if you have a Gravatar, else it becomes a >> smiley >> >>>> - images will be rescaled to fit in 128x128, the URL needs to remain >> accessible >> >>>> - description is a pure text String, no markup is allowed >> >>>> - the description does not have to be too formal >> >>>> - the page is statically generated, only then do changes take effect >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> >> >>>> Sven, on behalf of the Pharo Board. >> >>>> >> >>>> PS: If you are curious, the code for generating this page can be >> found at >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoPeople >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >

Aug. 19, 2013

Problem in #sorted: for some collections

by Damien Cassou

col := OrderedCollection new. col add: 1. col add: 3. col add: 2. col sorted. col you will see that col is now sorted. This is wrong. We expect #sorted to return a sorted collection without changing the receiver. This code col := Array with: 1 with: 3 with: 2. col sorted. col works as expected. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30337

by Camillo Bruni

I think, a nativeboost test crashed the VM under windows, which left the test results xml file unfinished which caused a failure in jenkins when parsing it. On 2013-08-19, at 14:43, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > On Aug 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> was there any problem with this version? i don't see it in the server. >> > > Yes, it failed on windows: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/ > > No idea, I will for now just trigger a build again > >> >> 2013/8/19 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >> 30337 >> ----- >> >> 11394 Needed support for traits in ClassFactoryForTestCase >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11394 >> >> >> Diff information: >> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Tests-MarcusDenker.23.d… >> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Core-MarcusDenker.92.di… >> >> >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30337

by Marcus Denker

On Aug 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > was there any problem with this version? i don't see it in the server. > Yes, it failed on windows: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/ No idea, I will for now just trigger a build again > > 2013/8/19 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > 30337 > ----- > > 11394 Needed support for traits in ClassFactoryForTestCase > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11394 > > > Diff information: > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Tests-MarcusDenker.23.d… > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Core-MarcusDenker.92.di… > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30337

by Sebastian Tleye

was there any problem with this version? i don't see it in the server. 2013/8/19 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > 30337 > ----- > > 11394 Needed support for traits in ClassFactoryForTestCase > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11394 > > > Diff information: > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Tests-MarcusDenker.23.d… > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Core-MarcusDenker.92.di… > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Large images reasons [WAS] Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2.0 with Seaside + DBXTalk + GlorpDBX + Magritte 3 + TWBS is getting slower and slower

by Marcus Denker

On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:56 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> since years marcus is telling that MC storing ancestor information is doomed but we do not have something to really replace it. >>> >> >> This is yet another thing. >> >> Monticello keep all history data of all package in image, this is not a cache. When you delete it, your package loses >> it's history and you can not merge anymore. >> >> MCVersionInfo allInstances do: [ :each | each instVarNamed: 'ancestors' put: nil ]. > > When I looked at this I noticed that there was lots of duplicate > entries in the ancestry list. I *think* this happens on merge. I > think one ends up with each of the ancestries of the merged packages > after a merge, i.e. when merging near the head one effectively doubles > the ancestry. I think Monticello should unique the ancestry, either > after a merge, or better still, before saving. This I think will > shrink the space taken by ancestry significantly. > Ahhâ¦ that explains why it wastes so much memory. > I have some code handy if you'd like, but its not a hard thing to do. > If you have it I would be interestedâ¦ I have added the information to https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2711 Marcus

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updating the Pharo Contributors listing

by Clara Allende

PharoContributor new name: 'Clara Allende'; id: 'ClaraAllende'; email: 'clari.allende(a)gmail.com'; website: 'http://clariallende.wordpress.com'; description: 'student for GSoC 2013, using Pharo for teaching at National Technological University in Buenos Aires'; image: ' https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31270395/Im%C3%A1genes/fb.jpg'; yourself On 19 August 2013 08:41, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > PharoContributor new > name: 'Alexandre Bergel'; > id: 'abergel'; > email: 'alexandre.bergel(a)me.com'; > website: 'http://bergel.eu'; > description: 'Use Pharo for research in software engineering, > quality and understanding at the University of Chile. Contribute to > Roassal, Moose, Spy and many more.'; > image: 'http://bergel.eu/pictures/web4.jpg'; > yourself > > > > On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > PharoContributor new > > name: 'Esteban Lorenzano'; > > id: 'estebanlm'; > > email: 'estebanlm(a)gmail.com'; > > website: 'http://smallworks.eu'; > > description: 'Pharo core team. Contributor of several projects, > including Kernel, DBXTalk, Voyage, Mars, etc. Also I work on the VM.'; > > image: ' > http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/193af464509ae8fbcc04abad70b72fc0?s=120'; > > yourself > > > > > > > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Jannik, > >> > >> On 16 Aug 2013, at 21:23, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> PharoContributor new > >>> name: 'Jannik Laval'; > >>> id: 'jannik.laval'; > >>> email: 'jannik.laval(a)gmail.com'; > >>> website: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu'; > >>> description: 'Software Researcher at Mines Douai'; > >>> image: ' > http://www.jannik-laval.eu/assets/images/DSC02023%20-%20Version%202.jpg'; > >>> yourself > >> > >> Updated: > >> > >> http://contributors.pharo.org#janniklaval > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Sven > >> > >>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Fellow Pharoers, > >>>> > >>>> As some of you may know, we have a page listing Pharo Contributors > >>>> > >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors > >>>> > >>>> This page was manually constructed and urgently needs an update. > >>>> Based on the code behind the Pharo Consultants page > >>>> > >>>> http://consultants.pharo.org > >>>> > >>>> we want a similar data driven, statically generated page for Pharo > Contributors > >>>> > >>>> http://contributors.pharo.org > >>>> > >>>> the new page is based on some of the old data, but needs updating. > Many people are missing as well. So please, please, edit the template and > send me your new or up to date information. > >>>> > >>>> PharoContributor new > >>>> name: 'StÃ©phane Ducasse'; > >>>> id: 'stephaneducasse'; > >>>> email: 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr'; > >>>> website: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/'; > >>>> description: 'Research director at INRIA Lille leading the RMoD Team. > Pharo board member and president of ESUG.'; > >>>> image: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/StefFingerOnNose128.jpg'; > >>>> yourself > >>>> > >>>> PharoContributor new > >>>> name: 'Camillo Bruni'; > >>>> email: 'camillobruni(a)gmail.com'; > >>>> description: 'Cosmopolitan Swiss Hacker, currently at INRIA'; > >>>> yourself > >>>> > >>>> Some notes: > >>>> > >>>> - id is only needed when your name contains non-ascii characters > >>>> - email will default to pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org if missing > >>>> - website will default to a Google search for your name if a URL is > missing > >>>> - image can be omitted if you have a Gravatar, else it becomes a > smiley > >>>> - images will be rescaled to fit in 128x128, the URL needs to remain > accessible > >>>> - description is a pure text String, no markup is allowed > >>>> - the description does not have to be too formal > >>>> - the page is statically generated, only then do changes take effect > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Sven, on behalf of the Pharo Board. > >>>> > >>>> PS: If you are curious, the code for generating this page can be > found at > >>>> > >>>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoPeople > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updating the Pharo Contributors listing

by Alexandre Bergel

PharoContributor new name: 'Alexandre Bergel'; id: 'abergel'; email: 'alexandre.bergel(a)me.com'; website: 'http://bergel.eu'; description: 'Use Pharo for research in software engineering, quality and understanding at the University of Chile. Contribute to Roassal, Moose, Spy and many more.'; image: 'http://bergel.eu/pictures/web4.jpg'; yourself On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > PharoContributor new > name: 'Esteban Lorenzano'; > id: 'estebanlm'; > email: 'estebanlm(a)gmail.com'; > website: 'http://smallworks.eu'; > description: 'Pharo core team. Contributor of several projects, including Kernel, DBXTalk, Voyage, Mars, etc. Also I work on the VM.'; > image: 'http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/193af464509ae8fbcc04abad70b72fc0?s=120'; > yourself > > > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> Hi Jannik, >> >> On 16 Aug 2013, at 21:23, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> PharoContributor new >>> name: 'Jannik Laval'; >>> id: 'jannik.laval'; >>> email: 'jannik.laval(a)gmail.com'; >>> website: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu'; >>> description: 'Software Researcher at Mines Douai'; >>> image: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu/assets/images/DSC02023%20-%20Version%202.jpg'; >>> yourself >> >> Updated: >> >> http://contributors.pharo.org#janniklaval >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sven >> >>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Fellow Pharoers, >>>> >>>> As some of you may know, we have a page listing Pharo Contributors >>>> >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors >>>> >>>> This page was manually constructed and urgently needs an update. >>>> Based on the code behind the Pharo Consultants page >>>> >>>> http://consultants.pharo.org >>>> >>>> we want a similar data driven, statically generated page for Pharo Contributors >>>> >>>> http://contributors.pharo.org >>>> >>>> the new page is based on some of the old data, but needs updating. Many people are missing as well. So please, please, edit the template and send me your new or up to date information. >>>> >>>> PharoContributor new >>>> name: 'StÃ©phane Ducasse'; >>>> id: 'stephaneducasse'; >>>> email: 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr'; >>>> website: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/'; >>>> description: 'Research director at INRIA Lille leading the RMoD Team. Pharo board member and president of ESUG.'; >>>> image: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/StefFingerOnNose128.jpg'; >>>> yourself >>>> >>>> PharoContributor new >>>> name: 'Camillo Bruni'; >>>> email: 'camillobruni(a)gmail.com'; >>>> description: 'Cosmopolitan Swiss Hacker, currently at INRIA'; >>>> yourself >>>> >>>> Some notes: >>>> >>>> - id is only needed when your name contains non-ascii characters >>>> - email will default to pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org if missing >>>> - website will default to a Google search for your name if a URL is missing >>>> - image can be omitted if you have a Gravatar, else it becomes a smiley >>>> - images will be rescaled to fit in 128x128, the URL needs to remain accessible >>>> - description is a pure text String, no markup is allowed >>>> - the description does not have to be too formal >>>> - the page is statically generated, only then do changes take effect >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sven, on behalf of the Pharo Board. >>>> >>>> PS: If you are curious, the code for generating this page can be found at >>>> >>>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoPeople >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updating the Pharo Contributors listing

by Esteban Lorenzano

PharoContributor new name: 'Esteban Lorenzano'; id: 'estebanlm'; email: 'estebanlm(a)gmail.com'; website: 'http://smallworks.eu'; description: 'Pharo core team. Contributor of several projects, including Kernel, DBXTalk, Voyage, Mars, etc. Also I work on the VM.'; image: 'http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/193af464509ae8fbcc04abad70b72fc0?s=120'; yourself On Aug 18, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi Jannik, > > On 16 Aug 2013, at 21:23, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> PharoContributor new >> name: 'Jannik Laval'; >> id: 'jannik.laval'; >> email: 'jannik.laval(a)gmail.com'; >> website: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu'; >> description: 'Software Researcher at Mines Douai'; >> image: 'http://www.jannik-laval.eu/assets/images/DSC02023%20-%20Version%202.jpg'; >> yourself > > Updated: > > http://contributors.pharo.org#janniklaval > > Thanks. > > Sven > >> On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> Dear Fellow Pharoers, >>> >>> As some of you may know, we have a page listing Pharo Contributors >>> >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors >>> >>> This page was manually constructed and urgently needs an update. >>> Based on the code behind the Pharo Consultants page >>> >>> http://consultants.pharo.org >>> >>> we want a similar data driven, statically generated page for Pharo Contributors >>> >>> http://contributors.pharo.org >>> >>> the new page is based on some of the old data, but needs updating. Many people are missing as well. So please, please, edit the template and send me your new or up to date information. >>> >>> PharoContributor new >>> name: 'StÃ©phane Ducasse'; >>> id: 'stephaneducasse'; >>> email: 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr'; >>> website: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/'; >>> description: 'Research director at INRIA Lille leading the RMoD Team. Pharo board member and president of ESUG.'; >>> image: 'http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/StefFingerOnNose128.jpg'; >>> yourself >>> >>> PharoContributor new >>> name: 'Camillo Bruni'; >>> email: 'camillobruni(a)gmail.com'; >>> description: 'Cosmopolitan Swiss Hacker, currently at INRIA'; >>> yourself >>> >>> Some notes: >>> >>> - id is only needed when your name contains non-ascii characters >>> - email will default to pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org if missing >>> - website will default to a Google search for your name if a URL is missing >>> - image can be omitted if you have a Gravatar, else it becomes a smiley >>> - images will be rescaled to fit in 128x128, the URL needs to remain accessible >>> - description is a pure text String, no markup is allowed >>> - the description does not have to be too formal >>> - the page is statically generated, only then do changes take effect >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sven, on behalf of the Pharo Board. >>> >>> PS: If you are curious, the code for generating this page can be found at >>> >>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoPeople >>> >>> >> > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Tudor Girba

Hi, ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: > > - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS > - Significant Moose cleaning and preparation for the release - Strenghtening Snapshotcello (a new release is available for Pharo 2.0) - Working on a robust and configurable object traverser - Working with Andrei on some exciting new debuggers (yes, you read right: we are working on multiple debuggers that can be customized and interchanged. it's so cool) - Continue work on a new Coder design - Wrote more blog posts about using Moose for solving specific problems ( http://humane-assessment.com) ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): > > - $NEXT_STEPS_TOWARDS_WORLD_DOMINATION > - Release Moose - Finish the object traverser Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Alexandre Bergel

> - More PWM What is that? > - See how to merge my NBXLib fork with existing one. A two sentence description of these forks? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by laurent laffont

> > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: > - Learn NativeBoost to bind XLib - Write a chapter on the subject for "Pharo for the enterprise" book, see https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… - Start an X11 window manager using Pharo > ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): > - Improve the chapter - More PWM - See how to merge my NBXLib fork with existing one. Laurent

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] why can we interrupt the UI thread?

by Esteban Lorenzano

I do not understand. Can you elaborate a bit? On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:00 AM, seaside(a)rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - mainly fighting with the VM, its plugins and jenkins jobs. - broadcast system for consortium/association -pharo bugs and integrations. > > ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): - more VM hit and run :) - maybe, just maybe, finish milestone 1 of broadcast. - fix RPackage and Traits (broken now) - ... no idea what else will emerge.

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Damien Cassou

### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - CI jobs for Pier, Magritte and Grease (https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/) - Fix Magritte so its job is green - Improve code and add features in Pharo to make a better PharoLauncher (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher) ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): Fix Grease and Pier so their jobs are green Make use of the improvements in Pharo for the PharoLauncher Finish the Deep Into Pharo book -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Aug. 19, 2013

[update 3.0] #30337

by Marcus Denker

30337 ----- 11394 Needed support for traits in ClassFactoryForTestCase https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11394 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Tests-MarcusDenker.23.d… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/SUnit-Core-MarcusDenker.92.di…

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:00 AM, seaside(a)rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - cleaning, integrating fixes. - toooooook far too much time. - working on textEditor with igor - working on AutomaticMethodCategorizer - working on SystemLogger > ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): - finish first version of SystemLogger - finish first version of AutomaticMethodCategorizer

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About SqNumberParser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks! Stef > I think just because 1.0s was explicitely not supported in Squeak? > There should be some related tests... > It should be rather simple to change. > > > 2013/8/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Hi nicolas > > We would really like to have only one number parser in Pharo as well as handling the 1.0s syntax > marcus raised a question that I could not answer. > Do you habve nfrmation to share with us so that we can take a decision? > > Stef > > > so the strange thing is that this is *explicitly* implemented in SqNumberParser to not allow 2.0s > > - do not allow single s without following digits as ScaledDecimal > > It is not explained why this is a good idea. > > In general, we need to merge the whole NumberParser hierarchy into one class, i don't understand why we have three classes now. >

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by Alexandre Bergel

> ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: > > - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS * Worked hard on Deep into Pharo * Make significant progress on Roassal 3d (Thanks to Ronie and Milton). Screenshots are available on https://twitter.com/ObjectProfile * Packaged Sunburst, video available on http://bit.ly/sunburstDemo * Many fix and improvement integration of Roassal. New release is in the pipeline > > ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): > > - $NEXT_STEPS_TOWARDS_WORLD_DOMINATION * Working on memory profiling * Doing a new pass on Deep into Pharo * Integrate the foreword by Dave Thomas in Deep into Pharo * Help the Object Profile crew with their presentations for ESUG :-) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 19, 2013

WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

by seaside＠rmod.lille.inria.fr

Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS ### What's next, until 2013-08-31 (*): - $NEXT_STEPS_TOWARDS_WORLD_DOMINATION (*) we'll be expecting results by then ;)

Aug. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About SqNumberParser

by Nicolas Cellier

I think just because 1.0s was explicitely not supported in Squeak? There should be some related tests... It should be rather simple to change. 2013/8/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Hi nicolas > > We would really like to have only one number parser in Pharo as well as > handling the 1.0s syntax > marcus raised a question that I could not answer. > Do you habve nfrmation to share with us so that we can take a decision? > > Stef > > > so the strange thing is that this is *explicitly* implemented in > SqNumberParser to not allow 2.0s > > - do not allow single s without following digits as ScaledDecimal > > It is not explained why this is a good idea. > > In general, we need to merge the whole NumberParser hierarchy into one > class, i don't understand why we have three classes now. >

Aug. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoSound load error in Pharo 2.0

by jannik.laval

I tried again and again without understandingâ¦ Now, what I have: If I inspect: " (ConfigurationOfPhratch project version: '1.0-baseline') record.", the version recorded is 5.4 (I am hoping to have 5.3) === a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] load : ConfigurationOfOSProcess linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] load : ConfigurationOfPharoSound linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] linear load : 5.4 [ConfigurationOfPharoSound] load : Sound-StephaneDucasse.76 load : Settings-Sound-HenrikSperreJohansen.2 load : SoundScores-StephaneDucasse.6 load : SoundMorphicUserInterface-StephaneDucasse.29 [â¦] load : Phratch) === BUT, if I inspect "(ConfigurationOfPhratch project version: '1.0-baseline') ignoreImage: true; record.", It works fine. === a MetacelloNullRecordingMCSpecLoader(linear load : linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] load : ConfigurationOfOSProcess linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] load : ConfigurationOfPharoSound linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfPhratch] linear load : 5.3 [ConfigurationOfPharoSound] load : Sound-StephaneDucasse.75 load : Settings-Sound-HenrikSperreJohansen.2 load : SoundScores-StephaneDucasse.6 load : Collections-Arithmetic-GuillermoPolito.4 load : SoundMorphicUserInterface-StephaneDucasse.27 [â¦] load : Phratch) === Why the ignoreImage change the behavior ? Jannik On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:27 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:18 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:42 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hum, I do not understand. >>> When I load it with your script it works (it loads the version 75 of Sound). >>> Now, with Phratch it tries to load the version 76 of Sound. >>> >>> Here is my configuration: >>> >>> === >>> baseline10: spec >>> <version:'1.0-baseline'> >>> spec for: #common do: [ >>> spec blessing: #baseline. >>> spec repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main'. >>> spec project: 'Sound' with: [ >>> spec >>> repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'; >>> versionString: #stable; >>> className: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound']. >>> spec package: 'Phratch' with: [ >>> spec requires: 'Sound'. >>> ]. >>> ]. >>> === >>> >> >> did you try with '5.3'? to see > > Yes, I tried and I have the same behavior. > There is something I do not understand, and the chapter about Metacello does not help me :( > > Jannik > > >> >>> And I load it with : >>> (ConfigurationOfPhratch project latestVersion: #baseline) load. >>> >>> So, why does it not take the stable version of PharoSound ? >> >> >> I do not know. we should ask dale. >> >>> >>> Thanks for the help. >>> Jannik >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 17, 2013, at 7:03 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> jannik >>>> >>>> >>>> (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load >>>> >>>> loads perfectly in 2.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> stable: spec >>>> <symbolicVersion: #stable> >>>> >>>> spec for: #'pharo1.0.x' version: '1.0'. >>>> spec for: #'pharo1.1.x' version: '3.0'. >>>> spec for: #'pharo1.2.x' version: '3.0'. >>>> spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '5.0'. >>>> spec for: #'pharo2.0.x' version: '5.3'. >>>> spec for: #'pharo3.0.x' version: '5.4'. >>>> >>>> (ConfigurationOfPharoSound project version: '5.3') load >>>> loads perfectly on a freshly downloaded 2.0 image >>>> >>>> So tell me more. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Aug. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone in St Petersburg?

by ÐÐ»Ð°Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ ÐÑÑÑÐ»Ð°Ð¹Ð½ÐµÐ½

Hi! I live in Saint-Petersburg andÂ I should be glad to meet with you! regards Vladimir Musulainen ÐÐ¾ÑÐºÑÐµÑÐµÐ½ÑÐµ, 18 Ð°Ð²Ð³ÑÑÑÐ° 2013, 13:45 +02:00 Ð¾Ñ Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >Hi! > >I am spending the week in Russia to attend ESEC/FSE. Just wondering whether some of the Russian crew here are up to a drink this week. > >Cheers, >Alexandre >-- >_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- ÐÐ»Ð°Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ ÐÑÑÑÐ»Ð°Ð¹Ð½ÐµÐ½

Aug. 18, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I would prefer to see the diff from Smalltalkhub than Git commits

by Alexandre Bergel

I have a (probably) naive question. What is stored on Github? How good the git support is in Pharo? Do I still need to use command lines to commit an application? Cheers, Alexandre On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > nope, the smalltalk hub diffs are clearly minor > > - they are auto generate, no manual intervention needed to send them > - they are only sent if the build succeeds > - they include valuable information > - the github repository is the place where you go to find changes, it's simply impossible to figure out when something broke on smalltalkhub since you cannot compare multiple packages over multiple times > > and... I thought we agree that I send the diff from github. > Usually the diff gets send along with the update, but since there was a strange update that didn't change any code, the export script failed, so I catch up with the export. > > > On 2013-08-16, at 17:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> could we avoid to get the github commits. I would prefer to get diff from Smalltalkhub. >> >> Stef > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 18, 2013

Anyone in St Petersburg?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I am spending the week in Russia to attend ESEC/FSE. Just wondering whether some of the Russian crew here are up to a drink this week. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 18, 2013