July 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] @lab at midday

by Esteban Lorenzano

In fact, I should be three-lingual by now :) but since I speak the three languages like s*** (including my natural), I don't think it counts ;) Esteban On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> french lessons (yep, 3 this week :) > > > I expect you to be bilingual now :-) > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] @lab at midday

by Esteban Lorenzano

crap... bad list :) that happens when you wake up far too early :P On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> french lessons (yep, 3 this week :) > > > I expect you to be bilingual now :-) > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-07-12, at 10:52, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 12.07.2013 um 10:45 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> >> On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am writing a blog of the changes i have been doing, this particular change is not still there but it will be soon (today or on monday) :) >>> >>> >>> 2013/7/12 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> >>> >>> Am 12.07.2013 um 07:22 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ >>>> >>>> >>>> That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and >>>> Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the >>>> presence of traits. But do people want it? >>>> >>> Uff, I don't know if I want it because I hear it the first time and it sounds shocking at first. Can you elaborate on this or give some pointers for documents? >>> >> >> I am sceptical, too. This should not be done just like that. >> >> We changed already so much in Pharo3â¦ we need to be a bit conservative for a while. >> > You read my mind! Just counting the changes I remember from the last weeks I have the feeling the whole thing might collapse the other day. Nobody uses the internals of Trait, so this is no big deal. For migration, which only concerns extension methods on TPureBehavior (again people ignore Traits anyways), you simply move them TClass, problem solved.

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Norbert Hartl

Am 12.07.2013 um 10:45 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am writing a blog of the changes i have been doing, this particular change is not still there but it will be soon (today or on monday) :) >> >> >> 2013/7/12 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> >> >> Am 12.07.2013 um 07:22 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> >> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ >> > >> > >> > That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and >> > Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the >> > presence of traits. But do people want it? >> > >> Uff, I don't know if I want it because I hear it the first time and it sounds shocking at first. Can you elaborate on this or give some pointers for documents? >> > > I am sceptical, too. This should not be done just like that. > > We changed already so much in Pharo3â¦ we need to be a bit conservative for a while. > You read my mind! Just counting the changes I remember from the last weeks I have the feeling the whole thing might collapse the other day. Norbert

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am writing a blog of the changes i have been doing, this particular change is not still there but it will be soon (today or on monday) :) > > > 2013/7/12 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> > > Am 12.07.2013 um 07:22 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ > > > > > > That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and > > Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the > > presence of traits. But do people want it? > > > Uff, I don't know if I want it because I hear it the first time and it sounds shocking at first. Can you elaborate on this or give some pointers for documents? > I am sceptical, too. This should not be done just like that. We changed already so much in Pharo3â¦ we need to be a bit conservative for a while. Marcus

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Sebastian Tleye

I am writing a blog of the changes i have been doing, this particular change is not still there but it will be soon (today or on monday) :) 2013/7/12 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> > > Am 12.07.2013 um 07:22 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ > > > > > > That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and > > Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the > > presence of traits. But do people want it? > > > Uff, I don't know if I want it because I hear it the first time and it > sounds shocking at first. Can you elaborate on this or give some pointers > for documents? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > >

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Norbert Hartl

Am 12.07.2013 um 07:22 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ > > > That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and > Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the > presence of traits. But do people want it? > Uff, I don't know if I want it because I hear it the first time and it sounds shocking at first. Can you elaborate on this or give some pointers for documents? thanks, Norbert

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] @lab at midday

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > french lessons (yep, 3 this week :) I expect you to be bilingual now :-) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

July 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30267

by Sebastian Tleye

Exactly!! 2013/7/12 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > 11151 More changes needed to trait/classes polymorphism > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11151/ > > > That's huge. Soon, we will be able to remove thr ClassDescription and > Behavior classes. It makes sense because they are useless in the > presence of traits. But do people want it? > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

July 12, 2013

@lab at midday

by Esteban Lorenzano

french lessons (yep, 3 this week :)

July 12, 2013