July 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 16 Jul 2013, at 16:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Paul wrote: >> Very nice, but perhaps in a future tutorial the mode of presentation can >> be TDD... > > and use a OTAP continuous deployment environment... > Perhaps a second droplet, with a deploy or reject/revert button for > the configurations :) and green and red traffic light of course > > Stephan Looking forward to it ;-) Sven

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 15 Jul 2013, at 20:19, Paul Davidowitz <pdavidow(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > Very nice, but perhaps in a future tutorial the mode of presentation can > be TDDâ¦ Thanks. Yes, it would be good if someone wrote a beautiful tutorial with a focus on TDD. For this subject and this tutorial, the tests are more functional tests than unit tests. I feel that it would be hard to do a web app fully TDD. But who knows, I like to read nice tutorials and learn something new as well ;-) Sven

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying

by Stephan Eggermont

Paul wrote: >Very nice, but perhaps in a future tutorial the mode of presentation can >be TDD... and use a OTAP continuous deployment environment... Perhaps a second droplet, with a deploy or reject/revert button for the configurations :) and green and red traffic light of course Stephan

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 16 Jul 2013, at 16:28, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Too bad digital ocean doesn't allow the creation of droplets at the moment. > AMS and NYC are over capacity, only SF. That's no option from Europe > due to latency. > > Stephan Yes, I saw that too, I guess they are growing like hell. Now, the latency problem is not really relevant when doing a tutorial, IMHO. That, and some of the other issues that you have raised with respect to could development & deployment, are part of advanced distributed software development, management and operations. Yes, every growing application will eventually get there. But it is a complex subject matter that can only be solved by combining the expertise of many disciplines. The first step is to build something that grows popular enough that it needs scaling. Sven

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Stephan Eggermont

Too bad digital ocean doesn't allow the creation of droplets at the moment. AMS and NYC are over capacity, only SF. That's no option from Europe due to latency. Stephan

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] MNU: SmallInteger>>add:

by Guillermo Polito

Sorry, I meant stable pharo vm On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Actually having an expression to convert into a test is better than > that... And answering the question of "is this a vanilla cog problem" > should be good too. > > But I cannot reproduce that problem in stable cog... > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> to pray? :P >> >> nah... if you can send information about how to reproduce it (I already >> have some others, but the more the better) >> I'm collecting information on: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11130 >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> Anything I can do to help? >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 16.07.2013 um 14:05 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I'm working on it... still no solution, sorry. >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> What is the latest status on this topic? In the meantime (meaning I use >> the newest VM) I can reproduce it easily. Or better said I cannot use >> Versionner anymore because it triggers the problem in a few of my projects >> every time. Is there a status update? >> Does it make sense to find the smallest/least complex example that >> triggers the problem? Is it known if this happens only on pharo vms or also >> vanilla cog? >> >> thanks, >> >> Norbert >> >> >> >> >> >

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] MNU: SmallInteger>>add:

by Guillermo Polito

Actually having an expression to convert into a test is better than that... And answering the question of "is this a vanilla cog problem" should be good too. But I cannot reproduce that problem in stable cog... On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > to pray? :P > > nah... if you can send information about how to reproduce it (I already > have some others, but the more the better) > I'm collecting information on: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11130 > > Esteban > > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Anything I can do to help? > > Norbert > > Am 16.07.2013 um 14:05 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > I'm working on it... still no solution, sorry. > > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > What is the latest status on this topic? In the meantime (meaning I use > the newest VM) I can reproduce it easily. Or better said I cannot use > Versionner anymore because it triggers the problem in a few of my projects > every time. Is there a status update? > Does it make sense to find the smallest/least complex example that > triggers the problem? Is it known if this happens only on pharo vms or also > vanilla cog? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > > > >

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] MNU: SmallInteger>>add:

by Esteban Lorenzano

to pray? :P nah... if you can send information about how to reproduce it (I already have some others, but the more the better) I'm collecting information on: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11130 Esteban On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Anything I can do to help? > > Norbert > > Am 16.07.2013 um 14:05 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> I'm working on it... still no solution, sorry. >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> What is the latest status on this topic? In the meantime (meaning I use the newest VM) I can reproduce it easily. Or better said I cannot use Versionner anymore because it triggers the problem in a few of my projects every time. Is there a status update? >>> Does it make sense to find the smallest/least complex example that triggers the problem? Is it known if this happens only on pharo vms or also vanilla cog? >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Norbert >>> >> >

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] MNU: SmallInteger>>add:

by Norbert Hartl

Anything I can do to help? Norbert Am 16.07.2013 um 14:05 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I'm working on it... still no solution, sorry. > > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> What is the latest status on this topic? In the meantime (meaning I use the newest VM) I can reproduce it easily. Or better said I cannot use Versionner anymore because it triggers the problem in a few of my projects every time. Is there a status update? >> Does it make sense to find the smallest/least complex example that triggers the problem? Is it known if this happens only on pharo vms or also vanilla cog? >> >> thanks, >> >> Norbert >> >

July 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] MNU: SmallInteger>>add:

by Esteban Lorenzano

I'm working on it... still no solution, sorry. On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > What is the latest status on this topic? In the meantime (meaning I use the newest VM) I can reproduce it easily. Or better said I cannot use Versionner anymore because it triggers the problem in a few of my projects every time. Is there a status update? > Does it make sense to find the smallest/least complex example that triggers the problem? Is it known if this happens only on pharo vms or also vanilla cog? > > thanks, > > Norbert >

July 16, 2013