July 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30276

by Nicolas Cellier

So you would be ready to change notNil -> isNotNil and become a bit more incompatible with the rest of the world? I understand that the pair isEmpty/isNotEmpty may seem a bit more homogeneous, but I see no other selector constructed with (isNot isnt) while I see many others where is is omitted. I wonder what this kind of change really serve... Nicolas 2013/7/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > 30276 > ----- > > 7300 Finder raise an error on asking for implementors > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7300 > > 10348 GroupAlreadyExists vs. GroupsAlreadyExists confusion > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10348 > > 11180 Add a filter to the config browser > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11180 > > 11172 notEmpty should be isNotEmpty > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11172 > > Diff information: > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tools-MarcusDenker.1177.diff > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Nautilus-MarcusDenker.492.diff > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/GroupManager-MarcusDenker.43.… > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Collections-Abstract-MarcusDe… > > >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Penelope - Fail to create account

by Mariano Vicente

thanks Esteban :) Saludos, Mariano On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > ok, I added both of you :) > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Mariano Vicente <m.vicent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > In my case is a spanish art seller. > > Saludos, > Mariano > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Not in my case, carlagriggio(a)gmail.com is a biologist from Brazil :P >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Clara Allende <clari.allende(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Just write your mail without dots, its the same for gmail (I've been >>> there already) >>> >>> Sent from Gmail for Android >>> On 17 Jul 2013 01:14, "Carla F. Griggio" <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Me :( >>>> I could see the issues by entering each category listed in the home >>>> page, but still it was uncomfortable to feel that I should know before hand >>>> in which category the issue I was looking for could be listed. >>>> I wanted to register to post issues with my name and I couldn't (and in >>>> the login form there should be a link explaining how to register, not only >>>> for asking a lost password). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Carla >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Mariano Vicente <m.vicent(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I tried create my user in penelope [1], so I can see the issues in >>>>> fogbugz. and this fails when i added the email, I think the problems are >>>>> the dots in my email adress. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody have had the same problem? >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://bugs.pharo.org/issues?_k=DBsCrRwP1TgaBEDb >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> > >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Config browser with filter

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-07-17, at 20:59, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > honestly... I'm thinking that it was not a good idea to backport the spec conf browser to 2.0. > looks to me that is not ready for production, and we need time to make it ready (time that we have for 3.0, but not for a bugfix release). I agree

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Config browser with filter

by Esteban Lorenzano

honestly... I'm thinking that it was not a good idea to backport the spec conf browser to 2.0. looks to me that is not ready for production, and we need time to make it ready (time that we have for 3.0, but not for a bugfix release). just my opinion Esteban On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:43 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > :) > > I have a catalogBuilder that starts to work so we will use configurations for generating > some nice information. > > Stef > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:55 PM, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > >> screen attached >> >> Pharo 2.0: Slice and issue 11179 together with a fix for broken buttons >> Pharo 3.0: Slice and issue 11180 >> >> <configbrowserfilter.png> > >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Config browser with filter

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) I have a catalogBuilder that starts to work so we will use configurations for generating some nice information. Stef On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:55 PM, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > screen attached > > Pharo 2.0: Slice and issue 11179 together with a fix for broken buttons > Pharo 3.0: Slice and issue 11180 > > <configbrowserfilter.png>

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec delete method

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > SOrry, it was not my intention :( Ok I just tell you because I know that you are not like that :) I loaded my code in the fresh and latest 30 and invoking the GC this time removed the UI instance. So I prefer that. Now my logging frameworks can get a streamLogger that displays information by default in the transcript and in the UILogger. I'm getting where I wanted. Stef > > Ben > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:07 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >>> I do not think it's a UI framework concern to handle model behaviour (like registration to announcement) >> >> Ben >> I notice that more frequently in your replies. To not judge people. We do not need it. >> We are all good programmers. I need to know if there is a hook not that you >> explain me that my design is bad, because it is not ;) I think that I know what are layer, MVP, MVC and little friends are. >> >> This is not my model behavior. I want my ui not to get notification >> from my model anymore. So to me this is the responsibility of the UI to unregister itself >> and I do not see who else could do it. >> >> I have again the same problem that my Spec UI instance is not garbage collected and >> I only use weak announcements and I need to understand why. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi ben >>>> >>>> I would like to unsubscribe announcement when the window is closed. >>>> Is there a hook for that in Spec? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec delete method

by Benjamin

SOrry, it was not my intention :( Ben On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:07 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I do not think it's a UI framework concern to handle model behaviour (like registration to announcement) > > Ben > I notice that more frequently in your replies. To not judge people. We do not need it. > We are all good programmers. I need to know if there is a hook not that you > explain me that my design is bad, because it is not ;) I think that I know what are layer, MVP, MVC and little friends are. > > This is not my model behavior. I want my ui not to get notification > from my model anymore. So to me this is the responsibility of the UI to unregister itself > and I do not see who else could do it. > > I have again the same problem that my Spec UI instance is not garbage collected and > I only use weak announcements and I need to understand why. > > Stef > > >> >> Ben >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi ben >>> >>> I would like to unsubscribe announcement when the window is closed. >>> Is there a hook for that in Spec? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec delete method

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks Stef > You can add this to the initialize method of your widget, and in the close method unregister all announcers > > self whenWindowChanged: [:w | w whenClosedDo: [ self close ] ]. > > > Andrei > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ok :) > > Then there is a hook in Morph for that I think :) > (and an announcement in Spec when a widget is built) > > Ben > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> I guess what Stef means is that he would like to know if there is a way specify custom behavior when a window closes, and then use this for his purpose of unregistering from some announcer. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I do not think it's a UI framework concern to handle model behaviour (like registration to announcement) >> >> Ben >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi ben >>> >>> I would like to unsubscribe announcement when the window is closed. >>> Is there a hook for that in Spec? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Penelope - Fail to create account

by Esteban Lorenzano

ok, I added both of you :) On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Mariano Vicente <m.vicent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In my case is a spanish art seller. > > Saludos, > Mariano > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not in my case, carlagriggio(a)gmail.com is a biologist from Brazil :P > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Clara Allende <clari.allende(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just write your mail without dots, its the same for gmail (I've been there already) > > Sent from Gmail for Android > > On 17 Jul 2013 01:14, "Carla F. Griggio" <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Me :( > I could see the issues by entering each category listed in the home page, but still it was uncomfortable to feel that I should know before hand in which category the issue I was looking for could be listed. > I wanted to register to post issues with my name and I couldn't (and in the login form there should be a link explaining how to register, not only for asking a lost password). > > Cheers, > Carla > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Mariano Vicente <m.vicent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > I tried create my user in penelope [1], so I can see the issues in fogbugz. and this fails when i added the email, I think the problems are the dots in my email adress. > > Anybody have had the same problem? > > [1] http://bugs.pharo.org/issues?_k=DBsCrRwP1TgaBEDb > > Regards, > Mariano > > >

July 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec delete method

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I do not think it's a UI framework concern to handle model behaviour (like registration to announcement) Ben I notice that more frequently in your replies. To not judge people. We do not need it. We are all good programmers. I need to know if there is a hook not that you explain me that my design is bad, because it is not ;) I think that I know what are layer, MVP, MVC and little friends are. This is not my model behavior. I want my ui not to get notification from my model anymore. So to me this is the responsibility of the UI to unregister itself and I do not see who else could do it. I have again the same problem that my Spec UI instance is not garbage collected and I only use weak announcements and I need to understand why. Stef > > Ben > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi ben >> >> I would like to unsubscribe announcement when the window is closed. >> Is there a hook for that in Spec? >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >

July 17, 2013