June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Benjamin

Ben On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > I've taken a more detailed look at the tabs. I like the clean look and > the functionality very much. > > To make multi-selecting tabs perfect: > - I would like to be able to shift-click to multi-select; Indeed :) > - if I command-click on a already selected tab, I would like it to > be removed from the set of selected tabs; Yes, it was on my todo list, but I forgot it ^^ > - I would like the horizontal line below the selected tabs to go away, > to make clearer that I'm looking at multiple tabs; This one I also wanted it, but it's a bit tricky :) > - when I resize a column, I would like the relative size to stay > when I add another one; This is really hard (almost impossible) > - I'm not sure making the order of the panes dependent on the order in which > the tabs are selected is a good idea, especially when you allow reordering > tabs by drag-and-drop; I think position based ordering is easier to understand; I do not understand > - one way of showing what pane belongs to which tab, would be to draw > a thin colored line from the tab to the pane; there is some vertical space > you could use for that; I am afraid it looks bad, i will investigate > - another would be to put a (opaque) icon with an arrow (in a circle?) pointing > at the center of the pane over the tab. Why not :) This one could be fun Thank you for your feedback Ben > > > Stephan

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Stephan Eggermont

I've taken a more detailed look at the tabs. I like the clean look and the functionality very much. To make multi-selecting tabs perfect: - I would like to be able to shift-click to multi-select; - if I command-click on a already selected tab, I would like it to be removed from the set of selected tabs; - I would like the horizontal line below the selected tabs to go away, to make clearer that I'm looking at multiple tabs; - when I resize a column, I would like the relative size to stay when I add another one; - I'm not sure making the order of the panes dependent on the order in which the tabs are selected is a good idea, especially when you allow reordering tabs by drag-and-drop; I think position based ordering is easier to understand; - one way of showing what pane belongs to which tab, would be to draw a thin colored line from the tab to the pane; there is some vertical space you could use for that; - another would be to put a (opaque) icon with an arrow (in a circle?) pointing at the center of the pane over the tab. Stephan

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by btc＠openinworld.com

Very cool - particularly the multi-selection. Alternative resizing policies was nice. My favourite things in other multi-tab systems... a. In addition to the close button on each tab, I really like having a close button in a static position on the far right. (For a specific example see PDFXchange Viewer**) That helps when I need to close a lot of tabs fast without having to move to the close button on each tab. From the video it looks like that feature would be easy to configure. b. Being able to change the tab order by dragging c. Being able to tear off a tab to a new window, and move tabs between windows. cheers -ben ** btw, I highly recommend this for anyone needing a PDF editor - free for commercial use (windoze only) and it has a portable edition useful in a corporate-locked-down environment Benjamin wrote: > hello guys :) > > I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following features (for now): > - tabs with icon (and a label of course) > - un-closable tabs > - threaded contents loading (with animated icon) > - shortcuts handling (to navigate from one tab to the next/previous one, to close a tab) > - multi-selection (will display all the selected contents with splitter in between) > - actions (each tab can define actions displayed in the tab bar) - Thanks Tudor for the idea > - menu items - Thanks Tudor for the idea > > Here is a little (geeky) video showing a bit of everything: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24369478/Tabs.m4v > > The code can be loaded executing this: > > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/BenjaminVanRyseghem/Tabs/main'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfTabs'; > load. > > ConfigurationOfTabs loadDefault. > TabExample open > > Next steps: > - drag and drop (for rearranging tabs) > - Spec support (almost finished) > > > Ben > > >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] fogbugz subcases

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have seen different strategies on using subcases on fogbugz and to me only one way makes sense: > > Subcases are dependencies > > Only if all the subcases are finished you can resolve a parent case. > I think that comes implicitly from the fact that you cannot have more than one parent. > Additionally the typical use-case for me is that you have to split up a complex bug / task into manageable subparts. > > what do you think? Yes! The idea is that the sub-cases have to be done first. They form a nice structure as a TODO list. Marcus

June 10, 2013

fogbugz subcases

by Camillo Bruni

I have seen different strategies on using subcases on fogbugz and to me only one way makes sense: Subcases are dependencies Only if all the subcases are finished you can resolve a parent case. I think that comes implicitly from the fact that you cannot have more than one parent. Additionally the typical use-case for me is that you have to split up a complex bug / task into manageable subparts. what do you think?

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [rmod] sprint in June: 21 or 28?

by Luc Fabresse

Hi all, 21 would have been better for me. but if I know it early probably I can arrange myself. Cheers, Luc 2013/6/4 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > 28 +1 > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > >> >> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > when do we do the june sprint? >> > >> >> I just put in holidays for the 21, so I vote for the 28th :-) >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz (Case [Issue]10840) Collection - WeakSet>>#size utterly broken

by Igor Stasenko

On 10 June 2013 05:38, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: >> >> Hi eliot >> >> probably a really stupid question. >> But why count the number of finalization would have a link with the size? > > > The size can only change when a) an element is added or removed, or b) when > something is finalized. a) adjusts the tally, b) does not. So invalidating > the size on b) means that it will always be recomputed if finalization > affects the size. > i correcting you b) when something is garbage collected. >> >> Is there an invariant that would mean that there is a one one relations >> between object in the set and their garbage collection. >> I mean if two objects of the same weakset are garbage collected will the >> finalization process runs twice > > > No. Finalization runs once after each GC that finalizes something. i.e. the > GC runs, and if it deletes one or more elements from any of the weak > collections in the system it signals the finalization semaphore. So the > finalization loop runs once for each GC that finalizes at least one weak > collection. If a GC finalizes many weak collections the finalization loop > still runs only once for the GC. Except from the cases, when you put too many things into finalization process, producing much garbage, which causing another GC while running it.. Then it turns into self-supporting process: - running finalization process causing GC - GC causing running finalization process :) >> I did not look at the class comment because may be it explains it and now >> I 'm dead. >> >> Stef > > > > > -- > best, > Eliot -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] SourceCity works

by Igor Stasenko

On 10 June 2013 05:53, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> Apparently, you have no idea what you talking about. > > Great communication skills :-) > Yes, i felt offended. Because it exists for 2 years for now. And your just saying to people that it doesn't exists, just because you loaded wrong/outdated config. You could just search mailing list (dated back to 2010 when it was first released), before/instead of doing any conclusions. Because if i would miss this mail: you/your student would be just wasting precious time trying to make something which already exists. Now tell me, who should care more about your time, me or yourself? >> Open browser and look for NBOpenGL-X and NBXLib-Core packages. >> I have put Javier in CC since he would be very interesting in >> discovering that things he did does not exist :) > > When I evaluate "NBGLContextDriver allSubclasses" it returns: > an OrderedCollection(NBMacGLContextDriver NBWin32GLContextDriver) > > Nothing wrong in thinking that there is no binding for Linux. Look, Alex... by analogy, i can download Squeak 3.9 image and state that Pharo doesn't exists on pharo mailing list... and nothing wrong in thinking that. What version you are using? NBGLContextDriver allSubclasses an OrderedCollection(NBMacGLContextDriver NBWin32GLContextDriver NBGLXContextDriver) > > When I was trying to make open gl working, I have seen ConfigurationOfNBXLib and the NBXLib* packages. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/NBOpenGL does not say a word what these packages are for. I can imagine NBOpenGL is to interact with OpenGL. Maybe "NB" stands for NativeBoost. But NBXLib no idea. Oh well... Maybe for the X-Server? But is this related to OpenGL? > Yes it is related. Linux desktop uses X server, to initialize OpenGL context there you must create an X window first. For all 'maybes' , google has an answer: try googling 'opengl linux' click on 1st hit , and read linux section: " Linux Graphics on Linux is almost exclusively implemented using the X windows system. Supporting OpenGL on Linux involves using GLX extensions to the X Server. " > Today I succeeded to make OpenGL running on my machine. Cool stuff! Thanks for this! > Now imagine, that the problems you had to deal with, is a norm in C world for anything: missing dependencies, found it, but it doesn't compiles, compiled but it doesn't works, works but sometimes crashes etc etc. > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Benjamin

I am not convinced by this one :) Anyway, it's a theme concern :) (or should be ^^) Ben On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Cool stuff! > > Another funny task: multicolor tabs like colorfullTabs mozilla plugin > > 2013/6/10 Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> > Holidays are for doing fun stuff :) > > And it was fun :) > (and actually pretty easy except the very last steps :P) > > Ben > > On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > >> Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote >>> I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following >>> features (for now): >> >> Wow, amazing work. This better not be what you were doing on vacation!! >> Holidays are for rest ;) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Tabs-tp4692498p4692521.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Benjamin

Thank you :) A preview could be something fun indeed :) Ben On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:14 AM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Really Great works Benjamin . The multi select feature with the split is a > brilliant idea. Hovering above tabs gives also a preview of them like what > happens with pharo windows when they are minimised ? > > I think Opera has such feartue for tabs. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Tabs-tp4692498p4692593.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 10, 2013