June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] ModTalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > They presented it today. What I gathered is that it's a > extra-curricular project for students to "get their hands dirty" after > going through his Programming Languages class. One aim is to make a > small, tiny, file-based Smalltalk project (without use of an image). > It seemed pretty rough, which is perfect for students to have > something difficult to wrangle with. > > The conference had a fantastic first day. So many well-known > Smalltalkers are here -- Allen and Rebecca Wirfs Brock, Dave Thomas, > Dan Ingalls and many more.. how many of them are still doing Smalltalk? Allen is working on JS, no? I know dan is working at SAP so is he using Smalltalk to build the tera bit VM? Still working on it? > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> Sounds interesting: http://www.stic.st/conferences/stic13/abstracts/modtalk-experience-report/ >> >> John Sarkela and Steve Jarvis talk about Modtalk at STIC13. Anyone knows more? >> >> >

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monetary package

by Denis Kudriashov

What the difference from scaled decimal or fixed decimal? On video I not see any currency concept. In past I used Units package to model money. It is very convinient to calculate currency exchange operations. What the advantage of Money package? Best regards, Denis 2013/6/10 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > Do we have a "money" package for Pharo available? > > > http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&title=ST+4U+396%3A+M… > > >

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] ModTalk

by Chris Muller

They presented it today. What I gathered is that it's a extra-curricular project for students to "get their hands dirty" after going through his Programming Languages class. One aim is to make a small, tiny, file-based Smalltalk project (without use of an image). It seemed pretty rough, which is perfect for students to have something difficult to wrangle with. The conference had a fantastic first day. So many well-known Smalltalkers are here -- Allen and Rebecca Wirfs Brock, Dave Thomas, Dan Ingalls and many more.. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Sounds interesting: http://www.stic.st/conferences/stic13/abstracts/modtalk-experience-report/ > > John Sarkela and Steve Jarvis talk about Modtalk at STIC13. Anyone knows more? > >

June 11, 2013

ModTalk

by Torsten Bergmann

Sounds interesting: http://www.stic.st/conferences/stic13/abstracts/modtalk-experience-report/ John Sarkela and Steve Jarvis talk about Modtalk at STIC13. Anyone knows more?

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Moving PostgresV2 from SS to Shub. Any objection?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com> wrote: > On 07 Jun 2013, at 14:44, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >>> >>> I was going to commit something on PostgresV2 in SS but then I though it >>> is a good opportunity to moved it to SmalltalkHub. >>> >>> Any objection? >>> >> > Please move it to SmalltalkHub. Thanks for moving it. > > Excellent. I have just moved it: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/PostgresV2/ And I have updated all confs: ConfigurationOfPostgresV2 and ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX > Wow. IIRC, PostgresV2 was coded around 1999, and first uploaded to some > (now long gone) server provided by my ISP, and was listed in SqueakMap. > When squeaksource became available, it was migrated there. Now, it's > migrating to SmalltalkHub. It was part of my "grand plan", but now I use > Fuel instead. I guess relational DB's still pay the bills. > > What a nice history! I guess one of the older packages still being used? :) Yes, it's paying a bit of my bills as well now. I am working for a client. We do use fuel as well as postgres and oracle (but different apps). I know PostgresV3 is out there...but not sure how it works and not sure if Glorp would work out of the box with it. Cheers, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by phil＠highoctane.be

hence the bt kbd. the on screen kbf is useless. as John McIntosh told me: do an app in the webview with seaside. he was damn right. phil Le 10 juin 2013 21:23, "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget > behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just > overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What > about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it > zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. > > Hilaire > > > Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder > > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. > > > > Thx > > T. > > > > [1] > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… > > > > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > > >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by Hilaire Fernandes

More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. Hilaire Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. > > Thx > T. > > [1] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… > -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by phil＠highoctane.be

cmd-d us hard on the virtual kdb indeed... As is getting halos to show. I did a bluetooth kbd experiment on iOS but even there one needs hacks to get through. e.g. no escape key... phil Le 10 juin 2013 20:06, "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > On 10 June 2013 19:59, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > The question arises whether Pharo should : > > > > a) Use the available virtual keyboard provided by the OS of the mobile > > device > > > > b) Implement its own > > > > I have pharo on my android device and tries to follow option (a) which > is my > > favorite too. The problem however is that the virtual keyboard provided > by > > option (a) is not a full keyboard and so some pharo shortcuts will not > work. > > > > I am not against option (b) either. > > > i'd vote for both. > Having own keyboard has many benefits like staying idendependent from > future > "overly-clever" keyboards :) > Not mentioning, that it can be used on other platforms, which has no > virtual keyboard provided > by default. > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Virtual-keyboard-tp4692672p4692678.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Igor Stasenko

On 10 June 2013 20:01, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Tab mania !!!! > > Ahhh users.... never satisfied :D > yeah.. you can spend whole year inventing new ways how you can lay out the tabs or place them in yet another way on screen. please lets keep our wishlist sane.. :) there's a lot of other things in UI which needs direct attention, and focusing just on tabs would be counterproductive. > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Tabs-tp4692654p4692679.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by Igor Stasenko

On 10 June 2013 19:59, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > The question arises whether Pharo should : > > a) Use the available virtual keyboard provided by the OS of the mobile > device > > b) Implement its own > > I have pharo on my android device and tries to follow option (a) which is my > favorite too. The problem however is that the virtual keyboard provided by > option (a) is not a full keyboard and so some pharo shortcuts will not work. > > I am not against option (b) either. > i'd vote for both. Having own keyboard has many benefits like staying idendependent from future "overly-clever" keyboards :) Not mentioning, that it can be used on other platforms, which has no virtual keyboard provided by default. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Virtual-keyboard-tp4692672p4692678.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 10, 2013