June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Modification on CollectionsExtensions

by Sebastian Tleye

Hello, Fixing some bugs in Traits we realized that it would be good idea to use CollectionsExtensions package (it has some useful functions), also it would be great to include CollectionsExtensions in Pharo 3.0. One "problem" we found is that CollectionsExtensions is depending on a Nile Package (that's not a desired feature). In the method Collection>>flatCollect: there is a line refering to a nile function "nsWriteStream". If i change "nsWriteStream" for "writeStream" the dependency disapears. I also run all the tests and they are working, so i was wondering if it would be possible to commit the change. Thanks.

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by phil＠highoctane.be

And the UI support on iOS for kbds relies on the UITextInput protocol which is very limited (and I now understand why Apple did it that way and hid the internal GSEvents for Kbd input) . That's what the iStackVM does and what I removed for intercepting the low level events. http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#Documentation/UIKit/Reference/UITex… But that makes sense since you need to support a lot of stuff for i18n. And let's not get started with dictation and accessibility: two things at which Pharo is hopeless in Morphic. Let's face it, for most apps, the UI is now the browser and that's about it. The other space would be OpenGL based apps and there accessibility makes no real sense. Phil On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You mean doing web app? > In that case, is not Amber a better choice ? > > > Hilaire > > > 2013/6/10 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > >> hence the bt kbd. the on screen kbf is useless. >> >> as John McIntosh told me: do an app in the webview with seaside. >> >> he was damn right. >> >> phil >> Le 10 juin 2013 21:23, "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> >> a Ã©crit : >> >> More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget >>> behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just >>> overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What >>> about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it >>> zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >>> > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder >>> > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. >>> > >>> > Thx >>> > T. >>> > >>> > [1] >>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://www.drgeo.eu >

June 11, 2013

[update 3.0] #30193

by Marcus Denker

30193 ----- 10882 Undeclared ivar string in ZnInvalidUTF8 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10882 10881 two tests failing in MCMczInstallerTest due to missing accessor https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10881 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core-… http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/System-Installers-MarcusDenke…

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by phil＠highoctane.be

At least, all international keyboards and funny things like Emoji would work. Try that with your self-made on screen keyboard... Also copy/pasting comes to mind along with autocorrect and text snippets support come to mind. In games, self made kbds make sense but that's because the only thing needed is to put in the player name (which should even be unnecessary if using the gaming APIs like Game Center for example) Phil On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You mean doing web app? > In that case, is not Amber a better choice ? > > > Hilaire > > > 2013/6/10 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > >> hence the bt kbd. the on screen kbf is useless. >> >> as John McIntosh told me: do an app in the webview with seaside. >> >> he was damn right. >> >> phil >> Le 10 juin 2013 21:23, "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> >> a Ã©crit : >> >> More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget >>> behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just >>> overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What >>> about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it >>> zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >>> > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder >>> > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. >>> > >>> > Thx >>> > T. >>> > >>> > [1] >>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://www.drgeo.eu >

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by phil＠highoctane.be

You can do iStackVM with Seaside providing the WebView with content and some content being Amber. Amber can be loaded in the Seaside image as SmalltalkHub shows. It is just another file library to put in there. And some Seaside-REST between the two is also an option if needed. A tad funky but workable for sure. Phil On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You mean doing web app? > In that case, is not Amber a better choice ? > > > Hilaire > > > 2013/6/10 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > >> hence the bt kbd. the on screen kbf is useless. >> >> as John McIntosh told me: do an app in the webview with seaside. >> >> he was damn right. >> >> phil >> Le 10 juin 2013 21:23, "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> >> a Ã©crit : >> >> More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget >>> behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just >>> overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What >>> about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it >>> zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >>> > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder >>> > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. >>> > >>> > Thx >>> > T. >>> > >>> > [1] >>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://www.drgeo.eu >

June 11, 2013

[update 3.0] #30192

by Marcus Denker

30192 ----- 10818 Integrate tabs https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10818 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tabs-MarcusDenker.13.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tabs-Support-MarcusDenker.5.d…

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Virtual keyboard

by Hilaire Fernandes

You mean doing web app? In that case, is not Amber a better choice ? Hilaire 2013/6/10 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > hence the bt kbd. the on screen kbf is useless. > > as John McIntosh told me: do an app in the webview with seaside. > > he was damn right. > > phil > Le 10 juin 2013 21:23, "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> > a Ã©crit : > > More than the keyboard, you need to consider how the text field widget >> behave when the keyboard show up. Indeed your virtual keyboard may just >> overlap with your text field. Then how do you move the text cursor? What >> about sliding it with the finger, with an additionnal widget showing it >> zoomed because your large finger hide a large part of your text. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> Le 10/06/2013 19:11, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >> > Tablets are more and more used and I wonder >> > if there is a virtual keyboard [1] for Pharo available. >> > >> > Thx >> > T. >> > >> > [1] >> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_p_I7WgFsZQ/UAiI1qjZYuI/AAAAAAAAED8/zyY0wdx_XJI/s… >> > >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu >> >> >> -- Dr. Geo - http://www.drgeo.eu

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Stephan Eggermont

Ben wrote: >Stephan wrote: >>- I'm not sure making the order of the panes dependent on the order in which >> the tabs are selected is a good idea, especially when you allow reordering >> tabs by drag-and-drop; I think position based ordering is easier to understand; >I do not understand Me neither, now I reread. Misunderstanding on my side. Just forget about the two suggestions following. Stephan

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [rmod] sprint in June: 21 or 28?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I think that we will do it the 28 so that papers for esug are sent :) On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > 21 would have been better for me. > but if I know it early probably I can arrange myself. > > Cheers, > > Luc > > 2013/6/4 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > 28 +1 > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Hi guys > > > > when do we do the june sprint? > > > > I just put in holidays for the 21, so I vote for the 28th :-) > > Marcus > > > >

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Moving PostgresV2 from SS to Shub. Any objection?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks mariano Stef On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com> wrote: > On 07 Jun 2013, at 14:44, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I was going to commit something on PostgresV2 in SS but then I though it is a good opportunity to moved it to SmalltalkHub. > > Any objection? > > Please move it to SmalltalkHub. Thanks for moving it. > > > Excellent. I have just moved it: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/PostgresV2/ > And I have updated all confs: ConfigurationOfPostgresV2 and ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX > > Wow. IIRC, PostgresV2 was coded around 1999, and first uploaded to some (now long gone) server provided by my ISP, and was listed in SqueakMap. When squeaksource became available, it was migrated there. Now, it's migrating to SmalltalkHub. It was part of my "grand plan", but now I use Fuel instead. I guess relational DB's still pay the bills. > > > What a nice history! I guess one of the older packages still being used? :) > Yes, it's paying a bit of my bills as well now. I am working for a client. We do use fuel as well as postgres and oracle (but different apps). > I know PostgresV3 is out there...but not sure how it works and not sure if Glorp would work out of the box with it. > > Cheers, > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 11, 2013