June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30221

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2013/6/25 Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > > 10817 Spec inspector >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10817/ >> >> WARNING: This change sets new debugger as default :) >> > > > Had a quick look and saw that the old debugger is still the default one. > Yeah that was a miscommunication between Camillo, Esteban and I. > > Also it would be good to sync with the content from the Debugger > repository as it contains some bug fixes. > What can I do to make this easy or you? (I can merge the version from > pharo with the one from the Debugger repository; > should I also create a slice?) > > Yeah please merge it and make a slice and a bug report in fogbugz. It will be integrated the day after you create the slice and put the bug in bugtracker to status 'fix review needed'. Andrei I have a question. On the old debugger when I right click on the stack I have a lot of features (as return value, browse class, ..). On the new debugger with Spec UI and your model I don't have all these features. Are they implemented in the model and not in the spec UI ? Are they not implemented because no one requested :) ?Could you add them ? Because we will put the new debugger by default in a few weeks (We first wait a few time to confirm that Opal and spec inspectors are stable enough to support the new debugger) and people will blame us if these features are not here. > Andrei > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Mate Virtual Machine Engineer BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 *Villeneuve d'Ascq*

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-06-25, at 17:16, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the > http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that > immediately follows it (between ). the bang is on purpose, this is a "dual" html/bash file. when you do curl get.pharo.org | bash it is this very file that gets downloaded and executed ;) > That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes > a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style > :) I will adapt the CSS, I think I modified the line-spacing and overlooked that.

June 25, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=wi… 3 regressions found. KernelTests.Numbers.NumberTest.testUnCategorizedMethods Spec.Inspector.Test.EyeInspectorTest.testErrorRaised ToolsTest.Inspector.WeakSetInspectorTest.testSymbolTableM6812

June 25, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=ma… 3 regressions found. KernelTests.Numbers.NumberTest.testUnCategorizedMethods Spec.Inspector.Test.EyeInspectorTest.testErrorRaised ToolsTest.Inspector.WeakSetInspectorTest.testSymbolTableM6812

June 25, 2013

[regression reporter]regression occurred

by no-reply＠ci.inria.fr

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=li… 4 regressions found. KernelTests.Numbers.NumberTest.testUnCategorizedMethods Spec.Inspector.Test.EyeInspectorTest.testErrorRaised Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testObsoleteClasses ToolsTest.Inspector.WeakSetInspectorTest.testSymbolTableM6812

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30221

by ClÃ©ment Bera

No actually we changed our mind and there is still the old debugger by default. But there is the new inspectors by default. The ObjectExplorer uses the new inspector instead of the old one, so it is kind of new too. I fixed the objectExplorer for compatibility with the new inspectors (in 30221 it does not work), so next integration should re-enable them. Actually in latest images you have Opal and the new inspectors by default. It *might* happen then that the latest Pharo 3 alpha is a *little bit* unstable in *very rare and specific* cases. 2013/6/25 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > > On 25 Jun 2013, at 15:30, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 30221 > > ----- > > > > 10545 Delays do not work properly directly on image startup > > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10545/Delays-do-not-work-properly-directl… > > Fingers crossed ;-) > > > 10817 Spec inspector > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10817/ > > > > WARNING: This change sets new debugger as default :) > > Yeah, living on the edgeâ¦ > > > Diff information: > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tools-EstebanLorenzano.1152.d… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/System-Tools-EstebanLorenzano… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/System-Support-EstebanLorenza… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Spec-Inspector-EstebanLorenza… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Morphic-Base-EstebanLorenzano… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Spec-Debugger-EstebanLorenzan… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/MonticelloGUI-EstebanLorenzan… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Kernel-EstebanLorenzano.1495.… > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/AST-Interpreter-Core-EstebanL… > > > > > > > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Mate Virtual Machine Engineer BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 *Villeneuve d'Ascq*

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that immediately follows it (between ). That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style :)

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30221

by Andrei Vasile Chis

> 10817 Spec inspector > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10817/ > > WARNING: This change sets new debugger as default :) > Had a quick look and saw that the old debugger is still the default one. Also it would be good to sync with the content from the Debugger repository as it contains some bug fixes. What can I do to make this easy or you? (I can merge the version from pharo with the one from the Debugger repository; should I also create a slice?) Andrei

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 25 Jun 2013, at 16:32, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box. >> >> Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd. > > what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days > on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about > dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about > this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute > what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to > have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is > (provided it is still supported by Canonical) The recommended, first time experience should indeed be the ppa way - and it should be described as such everywhere. On the other hand, you can't stop Linux users from doing what they want. But then they should bear the consequences and not complain like little children ;-) I for one like the get.pharo.org way a lot as well, and at the same time I have used the ppa install to fix the dependencies on some machines. > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill

June 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04

by Goubier Thierry

Le 25/06/2013 16:32, Damien Cassou a Ã©crit : > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box. >> >> Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd. > > > what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days > on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about > dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about > this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute > what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to > have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is > (provided it is still supported by Canonical) And I do appreciate the work and uses it :) But I can understand someone trying to get the linux pharo distribution to work, unless the pharo site recommend get.pharo.org + the pharo ppa as the default approach (I know I would). Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

June 25, 2013