June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowecase class names

by Tudor Girba

+1 Doru On May 31, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On May 31, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> is there any reason why class builder does not allow lowercase >> classnames? Underscore is allowed, though. >> > > In the past people started too add check to make sure that we only use > the naming that people are supposed to use. > The place these checks where placed was the class builder. Over time > it has shown that this is not good: it has do be done on a higher level. > > (we already removed certain checks, e.g. about variable capitalization). > > We should at some point introduce something that does these kinds of checks > for the tools, but allows one to just do anything when needed at the lower levelâ¦ > > Marcus > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo consultants

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 01 Jun 2013, at 17:28, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> >> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the quality of our community is in >>> general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well the association. >>> I think that this is REALLY important for a larger adoption of Pharo that the world >>> knows that we have excellent guys around that can consult. >>> >>> So what do you think? >>> I would use the association in a much clearer way. >> >> I think you need to elaborate here. On this level of detail the only answer could be: good idea! I cannot see what you have on your mind when you like to use the association in a clearer way. > > I mean that we could use the association as a show room for talented person > "selling" their expertise :) Yes, we should do something like that - we need to think about the amount/kind of information we want to place in the 'fiche' describing each consultant. It should be enough, but not too much either. >> I would like to have consultancy for consultants. I mean I read that sometimes that developers are just too shy to sell services with smalltalk or do not dare to introduce it to their IT. There should be an instance encouraging those people or be just an address to target questions to. > > I would like to show to the world that if they start business around Pharo they can find experts. >> >> Norbert >> >> > >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

alex there is only one package on smalltalkhub/alainplantec On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Any script to load Rubric? > > Alexandre > > On 1 Jun 2013, at 02:13, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> On 1 juin 2013, at 01:48, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 1 June 2013 01:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Alain! >>>> >>>> Impressive! >>> >>> Very. But only feature-wise. >>> Speed-wise is not. Is it related to recording? >> >> yes, my computer is slow and the screen recording make it inresponsive >> >>> hoping that live version faster. >> >> just try it :) >> >> But I think there is a lot of place for improvement: >> A selection is a PolygonMorph. Maybe a dedicated version should be done. >> >> Cheers >> Alain >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >> >> >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] zeroconf --headless/-headless

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

and the chapter :) On May 31, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Bruni camillo <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah I waited until we release the new vm... But I'll just change the latest script as you suggested. I won't have time today if you want you can push a new configuration for zeroconf, Jenkins will test everything ;-) > On May 31, 2013 7:16 PM, "Andrei Vasile Chis" <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes now the arguments are with --. > Just that the zero conf scripts still use -. > > It can be easily fix, but then the stable vm will not work any more as it needs -. > So the zero conf should use - for the stable vm and -- for the latest vm. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:48 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, > > Now the argument are with: - - no ? > It should be --headless ? > > I'm not sure. > Camillo has probably already fixed it reading your mail anyway > > > 2013/5/31 Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > If I try to execute './pharo Pharo.image' after downloading the latest Pharo Vm with the zero conf script it fails with the error: unknown option: -headless. If I download the stable one it works. > > Cheers, > Andrei > > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Mate Virtual Machine Engineer > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

by plantec

On 1 juin 2013, at 14:40, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Any script to load Rubric? unfortunately no up-to-date script. you have to directly load the Rubric package for now. sorry, I will try to update it next week. Cheers Alain > > Alexandre > > On 1 Jun 2013, at 02:13, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> On 1 juin 2013, at 01:48, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 1 June 2013 01:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Alain! >>>> >>>> Impressive! >>> >>> Very. But only feature-wise. >>> Speed-wise is not. Is it related to recording? >> >> yes, my computer is slow and the screen recording make it inresponsive >> >>> hoping that live version faster. >> >> just try it :) >> >> But I think there is a lot of place for improvement: >> A selection is a PolygonMorph. Maybe a dedicated version should be done. >> >> Cheers >> Alain >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >> >> >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

by Alexandre Bergel

Any script to load Rubric? Alexandre On 1 Jun 2013, at 02:13, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On 1 juin 2013, at 01:48, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 1 June 2013 01:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> Hi Alain! >>> >>> Impressive! >> >> Very. But only feature-wise. >> Speed-wise is not. Is it related to recording? > > yes, my computer is slow and the screen recording make it inresponsive > >> hoping that live version faster. > > just try it :) > > But I think there is a lot of place for improvement: > A selection is a PolygonMorph. Maybe a dedicated version should be done. > > Cheers > Alain > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. > >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

by plantec

Hi Denis, yes, the configuration is outdated, sorry :( But just load the Rubric package. It should work under 3.0, (just uncheck the deprecation warning dialog setting). regarding how the package is structured: - Rubric-Editing-Core contains the Text*Area classes which are forks from the old TextMorph related classes. So I guess a big part of this category is already outdated because of TxText. - Rubric-Editing-Widgets contains the PluggableTextMorph equivalent which is RubScrolledTextMorph. Side and over rulers (line numbers, icon manager, column drawer, bottom annotation pane, code size feed back, adornment, â¦) are implemented by the RubScrolledTextExtra hierarchy. You will tell us but I think that it should be possible to plug RubScrolledTextMorph with a TxMorph. Cheers Alain On 1 juin 2013, at 13:12, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > Do you have script to load Rubric? > I try few times to load it by configuration without success. > I want to compare Rubric with TxText. Maybe you already compare it? > Rubric examples are nice. But I always want to know how it works under hood > > Best regards, > Denis > > 2013/6/1 plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> > > On 1 juin 2013, at 10:26, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On 1 juin 2013, at 01:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > >> Would it be possible to have an element of the text responsive to some interaction? For example, if in my text field I enter the value 100. Can I click on it (and remain the mouse button down) and move the mouse to increase or decrease this numerical value? > > > > | area seg blk | > > area := RubEditingArea new beWrapped; withoutSelectionBar. > > area setTextWith: 'Click on 0'. > > seg := RubPlainSegmentMorph inTextArea: area from: 10 to: 11. > > blk := [ seg replaceTextWith: (seg text string asNumber + 1) asString]. > > seg on: #mouseDown send: #value to: blk. > > seg on: #mouseStillDown send: #value to: blk. > > seg beExtendable. > > area addSegment: seg. > > area openInWorld > > now I imagine that with TxMorph it should be possible to > insert whatever morph at a given place instead of a RubPlainSegmentMorph. :) > > Cheers > Alain > > > > > > > > > Alain > > > >> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi. Do you have script to load Rubric? I try few times to load it by configuration without success. I want to compare Rubric with TxText. Maybe you already compare it? Rubric examples are nice. But I always want to know how it works under hood Best regards, Denis 2013/6/1 plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> > > On 1 juin 2013, at 10:26, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On 1 juin 2013, at 01:25, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > > >> Would it be possible to have an element of the text responsive to some > interaction? For example, if in my text field I enter the value 100. Can I > click on it (and remain the mouse button down) and move the mouse to > increase or decrease this numerical value? > > > > | area seg blk | > > area := RubEditingArea new beWrapped; withoutSelectionBar. > > area setTextWith: 'Click on 0'. > > seg := RubPlainSegmentMorph inTextArea: area from: 10 to: 11. > > blk := [ seg replaceTextWith: (seg text string asNumber + 1) asString]. > > seg on: #mouseDown send: #value to: blk. > > seg on: #mouseStillDown send: #value to: blk. > > seg beExtendable. > > area addSegment: seg. > > area openInWorld > > now I imagine that with TxMorph it should be possible to > insert whatever morph at a given place instead of a RubPlainSegmentMorph. > :) > > Cheers > Alain > > > > > > > > > Alain > > > >> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 software update corrupts Pharo

by kilon

Thanks :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-3-0-software-update-corrupts-Pharo-tp… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 software update corrupts Pharo

by Camillo Bruni

You do everything with filters in FogBugz. Choose "List Cases" and then start to refine your search: once your happy with it, save the search and reuse it from the "Filters" menu. On 2013-06-01, at 10:15, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I created a bug report -> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10832#78704 > > Also I wanted to ask , how to browse the bug reports I have created ? I cant find it.

June 1, 2013