June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:39 PM, no-reply(a)ci.inria.fr wrote: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/./Run=run%201,VM=vm,label=lin… > > 3 regressions found. > FileSystem.Tests.Disk.FileHandleTest.testTruncate > Refactoring.Tests.Changes.RBRefactoringChangeTests.testPerformChangeComment > Tests.Monticello.MCClassDefinitionTest.testLoadAndUnload > Hhmmâ¦ not good. Marcus

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] SOAP in Pharo

by S Krish

In our works ( VA).. we had the "Document-Literal" SOAP wrapper approach and generally works easy and fine. I would say it is order more easier than what I see Norbert mention, unless I miss something in deference to his better experience in Pharo. With XMLRPC in Pharo I could do a lot Java - Smalltalk experimentally... and I believe it should not be very tough to cobble up the simplest workable SOAP interface bi-directional with Document/Literal approach http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-whichwsdl/ The namespace complication, which we have avoided/ I would avoid till the reasons are high enough to justify. ******************** Not tested.. but did see this... at some time.. all squeak based.. http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/soapOpera/soapCore.html http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1399.diff?id=29 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1228.diff?id=33 http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/soapOpera/index.html On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback! > > The SoapOpera library is using XMLSupport and I think it is a basic > generate/parse library for SOAP messages. > Given the time constraints and the limited number of soap calls we need to > implement, I think we will roughly go for Norbert's approach (using > XMLSupport) and see if we can/need to work on the SoapOpera library in the > future. Or maybe we make a 'lightweight soap' library... I don't know. > > Johan > > > On 03 Jun 2013, at 19:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > > > On 03 Jun 2013, at 18:08, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > >> In order to use SOAP properly you need a full namespace aware xml > parser, a xml schema parser, a WSDL parser plus code generator and the will > to abuse HTTP completely . > >> Even if you build a perfect tool you'll maybe face the not so perfect > responses from the remote side. > > > > Even using the Java stack with all its tools and frameworks, SOAP is > still terrible. Especially if you have to interface with Microsofts' idea > of SOAP and web services. > > > > But Johan implied already that it would not be fun. > > > > On the other hand, I think that XML Support _is_ namespace aware. So it > would not be too hard to actually generate/parse SOAP messages for real. > You could get already pretty far with that, IMHO. > > > > Sven > > > > PS: In another life I did http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-soap/ - it > was never perfect but it kind of worked to talk to Google AdWords. > > > > -- > > Sven Van Caekenberghe > > http://stfx.eu > > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > > >

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by Camillo Bruni

strange.., this works for me: git clone https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoLimbo cd PharoLimbo/NativeBoost pdflatex nativeboost.tex => open nativeboost.pdf On 2013-06-05, at 15:13, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > But it is the whole repository, there is no way to download partial github > repository via zip file as far as I know. The file exist as I said in a > parent folder, its does not really missing and its in the place it should > be. > > To be precise I extracted the repository in > /Home/Downloads/pharo-doc/PharoLimbo-master. In that folder I can see > common.tex file. > > I run my command line from inside > /Home/Downloads/pharo-doc/PharoLimbo-master/NativeBoost. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] SOAP in Pharo

by Johan Brichau

Thanks for all the feedback! The SoapOpera library is using XMLSupport and I think it is a basic generate/parse library for SOAP messages. Given the time constraints and the limited number of soap calls we need to implement, I think we will roughly go for Norbert's approach (using XMLSupport) and see if we can/need to work on the SoapOpera library in the future. Or maybe we make a 'lightweight soap' library... I don't know. Johan On 03 Jun 2013, at 19:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 03 Jun 2013, at 18:08, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> In order to use SOAP properly you need a full namespace aware xml parser, a xml schema parser, a WSDL parser plus code generator and the will to abuse HTTP completely . >> Even if you build a perfect tool you'll maybe face the not so perfect responses from the remote side. > > Even using the Java stack with all its tools and frameworks, SOAP is still terrible. Especially if you have to interface with Microsofts' idea of SOAP and web services. > > But Johan implied already that it would not be fun. > > On the other hand, I think that XML Support _is_ namespace aware. So it would not be too hard to actually generate/parse SOAP messages for real. You could get already pretty far with that, IMHO. > > Sven > > PS: In another life I did http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-soap/ - it was never perfect but it kind of worked to talk to Google AdWords. > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > >

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by kilon

But it is the whole repository, there is no way to download partial github repository via zip file as far as I know. The file exist as I said in a parent folder, its does not really missing and its in the place it should be. To be precise I extracted the repository in /Home/Downloads/pharo-doc/PharoLimbo-master. In that folder I can see common.tex file. I run my command line from inside /Home/Downloads/pharo-doc/PharoLimbo-master/NativeBoost. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by Camillo Bruni

yes, you have to download the whole repository. The common.text contains, uhm, "common" commands and macros for the chapters ;) and you're not alone, I ran into that a couple of times until I got used to it :P On 2013-06-05, at 15:00, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > seems for some reason cannot find common.tex though it exist in the parent > folder , dont know why > > here is the error report > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012/Debian) > restricted \write18 enabled. > entering extended mode > (./nativeboost.tex > ! Undefined control sequence. > l.14 \documentclass > [a4paper,10pt,twoside]{book} > ? > ! Undefined control sequence. > l.15 \usepackage > [ > ? > ! I can't find file `{../common.tex}'. > l.21 \input{../common.tex} > > (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit) > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] MonticelloFileTree-Git

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Thierry, Let's say I want to start using a bit based Monticello repository (in order to push everyting to Bitbucket). Where should I start? What else should I install? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/6/5 Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> > Thanks StÃ©phane, > > it's just that this effort is at the point where I can't do anything more, > because my use of git doesn't require much else. I would drop to the > command line anyway to handle branches, pull/push etc... including the fact > that the git repo in my case is usually a "larger than smalltalk" system, > and so contradicting the need for a closer integration inside Pharo. > > As it is now, it's equivalent to using, say, a Smalltalkhub or a ss3 repo > (except for the need to push changes). > > Thierry > > Le 05/06/2013 13:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > > thanks for keeping us posted. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> >> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >>> >>> my small extension to filetree for git users, i.e. gitfiletree:// repos, >>> has now reached an interesting point, which is the ability to scan a >>> filetree repository inside a git repository and recover (and load, and >>> browse, and etc...) all git-recorded versions of Monticello packages stored >>> in it. >>> >>> As before, it's at >>> >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~**ThierryGoubier/**MonticelloFileTree-Git/<http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ThierryGoubier/MonticelloFileTree-Git/> >>> >>> and relies on MonticelloFileTree and OS-Process for the underlying >>> magic. It works perfectly on a pre-existing filetree inside git repo, >>> except for corrupted smalltalk packages (it tries to avoid them, with no >>> guarantees of success). >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Thierry >>> -- >>> Thierry Goubier >>> CEA list >>> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>> France >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > >

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by kilon

seems for some reason cannot find common.tex though it exist in the parent folder , dont know why here is the error report This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012/Debian) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./nativeboost.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.14 \documentclass [a4paper,10pt,twoside]{book} ? ! Undefined control sequence. l.15 \usepackage [ ? ! I can't find file `{../common.tex}'. l.21 \input{../common.tex} (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by kilon

can say why Camillo, all I know that both reported errors in line "/input" , i think its line 15 or something. All I did was to download the nativeboost.tex from github (via zip file) and open my ubuntu command line and do "pdftex nativeboost" and shown me the error. I am completely clueless how LateX works so maybe I am doing something wrong here. But no problem since I can now download the pdf instead and view it. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where did Nativeboost Documentation disappear ?

by Camillo Bruni

compiles fine here (with the usual 2 million lines of latex warnings) On 2013-06-05, at 14:30, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > tried also pdftex in ubuntu again it complains about errors in > nativeboost.tex file :( > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Where-did-Nativeboost-Documentation-disappe… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 5, 2013