June 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 09 Jun 2013, at 21:03, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Here is a little (geeky) video showing a bit of everything: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24369478/Tabs.m4v Very nice !

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Sean P. DeNigris

Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote > I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following > features (for now): Wow, amazing work. This better not be what you were doing on vacation!! Holidays are for rest ;) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Tabs-tp4692498p4692521.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Benjamin

The order of panels is the order of tabs (not the order of selection) I was thinking of adding something, but the only thing which came to my mind was something like the diff browser. But it is to invasive :( If you have an idea :) Ben On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Looks great, Ben! > > A feature request: > Can we have more visual feedback on which > panel belongs with which tab when multi-selecting? > > Stephan > >

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Stephan Eggermont

Looks great, Ben! A feature request: Can we have more visual feedback on which panel belongs with which tab when multi-selecting? Stephan

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable web links inside class comments , possible ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:48 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Ok, cool. > > Now, would you leave the changes chunk format? yes and it is orthogonal. Even if I want a better chunk format. We want a model for changes and a model for source code. And two separated tools. > > Example: in Amber, one can take such a thing and paste it in the workspace and file it in. > This helps with importing code from elsewhere. > > And also with other Smalltalks... http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~sl/teaching/00_01/Delfin_EC/Overviews/ChunkFileFor… > > Phil > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Phil > > Martin (one of the guy behind fuel) is working on a **good** changes management because > we do not like all the changes code which is old and sometimes brittle. We will have a look at > your issues and see what we can do. But what is sure is that we are working on replacing > all the changeset, recovery and all the rest :). > > Stef > > On Jun 9, 2013, at 8:07 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > >> >> The interesting bit is that the crash I got occured **as I was saving to STH**... >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10859#78993 >> >> Then Cami told me to drag & drop my .changes file inside my image to recover the changes. >> >> Since was I was doing was not coding but commenting, comments were lost (and getting into a deadly loop as well - https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10860#78992) >> >> Then looking at the Change fileIn, I noticed that thing about comments not being taken into account: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10861#78994 >> >> So, I try to work the advertised way, I guess. >> >> But things is that a lot of things have the power to destroy my image it seems. >> That's why I do have a ton of large files in my working folder named like xxxx-YYYYMMDD-HHMM.image|changes >> >> Still, I got burned. >> >> As of the old code hard to understand, sure, I got lost :-) If I would understand what to do, instead of bugging you I'd be submitting a slice. >> >> Let's end this thread :-) >> >> Phil >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >> > Look, I got the point about mixing up issues. >> > >> > Thanks for bother to reply BTW, it is appreciated. >> > >> >> As for >> >> 10861 System not filing in class comments from changes file. >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10861/System-not-filing-in-class-comments… >> >> yes, this seems to be not filing in class comment from the recent changes. >> >> I think that nobody complained because it is not used that often and mostly with relatively small changes >> People save on SmalltalkHub very often, or saving the image before doing something that can destroy it. >> >> And comments tend to be written at anther times then code that has the power to destroy you image. >> >> Yes, we should fix it. And yes, the code related to all this is quite old-style smalltalk that is hard to understand. >> >> Marcus >> > >

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable web links inside class comments , possible ?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ok, cool. Now, would you leave the changes chunk format? Example: in Amber, one can take such a thing and paste it in the workspace and file it in. This helps with importing code from elsewhere. And also with other Smalltalks... http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~sl/teaching/00_01/Delfin_EC/Overviews/ChunkFileFor… Phil On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Phil > > Martin (one of the guy behind fuel) is working on a **good** changes > management because > we do not like all the changes code which is old and sometimes brittle. We > will have a look at > your issues and see what we can do. But what is sure is that we are > working on replacing > all the changeset, recovery and all the rest :). > > Stef > > On Jun 9, 2013, at 8:07 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > > The interesting bit is that the crash I got occured **as I was saving to > STH**... > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10859#78993 > > Then Cami told me to drag & drop my .changes file inside my image to > recover the changes. > > Since was I was doing was not coding but commenting, comments were lost > (and getting into a deadly loop as well - > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10860#78992) > > Then looking at the Change fileIn, I noticed that thing about comments not > being taken into account: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10861#78994 > > So, I try to work the advertised way, I guess. > > But things is that a lot of things have the power to destroy my image it > seems. > That's why I do have a ton of large files in my working folder named like > xxxx-YYYYMMDD-HHMM.image|changes > > Still, I got burned. > > As of the old code hard to understand, sure, I got lost :-) If I would > understand what to do, instead of bugging you I'd be submitting a slice. > > Let's end this thread :-) > > Phil > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > >> >> On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >> > Look, I got the point about mixing up issues. >> > >> > Thanks for bother to reply BTW, it is appreciated. >> > >> >> As for >> >> 10861 System not filing in class comments from changes file. >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10861/System-not-filing-in-class-comments… >> >> yes, this seems to be not filing in class comment from the recent changes. >> >> I think that nobody complained because it is not used that often and >> mostly with relatively small changes >> People save on SmalltalkHub very often, or saving the image before doing >> something that can destroy it. >> >> And comments tend to be written at anther times then code that has the >> power to destroy you image. >> >> Yes, we should fix it. And yes, the code related to all this is quite >> old-style smalltalk that is hard to understand. >> >> Marcus >> > > >

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable web links inside class comments , possible ?

by phil＠highoctane.be

The best would be to have what Amber does have with Helios: Markdown based documentation, including clickable links. The fact that Amber runs in a browser is obviously helpful. Now, nothing prevents a click in the documentation pane to let one go to such a link. But opening a link in a browser is platform dependent. So, maybe the best bet would be to wait until Pharo gets a new TextModel and leverage that. This wouldn't solve the non cross platform link open tough. A temporary fix would be to select a text in the comment pane, right click on it and have an "open in web browser" thing in the menu, leading to whatever is needed to open a link. Phil On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > So coming back to my original question , I assume the answer is a "No". > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Clickable-web-links-inside-class-comments-p… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-fuel] Corrupt BlockClosure

by Max Leske

I still can't tell you how the closure become corrupted but I now know how to get rid of it. I'm also pretty sure that closures work fine (as you say) and that I probably mistook the same corrupt instance for different instances. Cheers, Max > How does that happen? It doesn't happen in normal use. I can see how Fuel > does it. I can't see how non-Fuel use would do it (other than deliberate > construction). A closure is created by evaluating the push-closure > bytecode in a specific method, and when this closure is created, it refers, > through its outer context to the method object containing the evaluated > push-closure bytecode. Since the closure's startpc is derived from the pc > of the push-closure bytecode, there is always a match. > > However, when Fuel serializes (IIRC) it serializes a *reference* to a > method in the form of a class-name,selector pair, and this approach can > obviously yield an invalid method. > > therefore I think it much more likely that what you;re seeing is a result > of a bug in Fuel than some systemic problem with closures.

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by Benjamin

No. In chrome, selecting multiple tabs just show the last selected one. But here I wanted this behaviour so you can pin a method tab, then show multiple methods in once :) Ben On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Ben I never realized that tabs got multiple selection: > selecting multiple tabs show the results in the current one. > Do safari, chrome have the same ? > > Stef > > On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:22 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> hello guys :) >>> >>> I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following features (for now): >>> - tabs with icon (and a label of course) >>> - un-closable tabs >>> - threaded contents loading (with animated icon) >>> - shortcuts handling (to navigate from one tab to the next/previous one, to close a tab) >>> - multi-selection (will display all the selected contents with splitter in between) >>> - actions (each tab can define actions displayed in the tab bar) - Thanks Tudor for the idea >>> - menu items - Thanks Tudor for the idea >>> >>> Here is a little (geeky) video showing a bit of everything: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24369478/Tabs.m4v >>> >>> The code can be loaded executing this: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/BenjaminVanRyseghem/Tabs/main'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfTabs'; >>> load. >>> >>> ConfigurationOfTabs loadDefault. >>> TabExample open >>> >>> Next steps: >>> - drag and drop (for rearranging tabs) >>> - Spec support (almost finished) >>> >> >> Superbe!!! >> >>> >>> Ben >>> >> >

June 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ben I never realized that tabs got multiple selection: selecting multiple tabs show the results in the current one. Do safari, chrome have the same ? Stef On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:22 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> hello guys :) >> >> I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following features (for now): >> - tabs with icon (and a label of course) >> - un-closable tabs >> - threaded contents loading (with animated icon) >> - shortcuts handling (to navigate from one tab to the next/previous one, to close a tab) >> - multi-selection (will display all the selected contents with splitter in between) >> - actions (each tab can define actions displayed in the tab bar) - Thanks Tudor for the idea >> - menu items - Thanks Tudor for the idea >> >> Here is a little (geeky) video showing a bit of everything: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24369478/Tabs.m4v >> >> The code can be loaded executing this: >> >> Gofer it >> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/BenjaminVanRyseghem/Tabs/main'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfTabs'; >> load. >> >> ConfigurationOfTabs loadDefault. >> TabExample open >> >> Next steps: >> - drag and drop (for rearranging tabs) >> - Spec support (almost finished) >> > > Superbe!!! > >> >> Ben >> >

June 9, 2013