May 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[update 3.0] #30135

by Marcus Denker

30135 ----- 10634 Simplify CompiledMethod>>#methodClass https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10634 10645 clean up pc mapping methods of ASTInterpreter https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10645 10642 remove unused low level scanning methods in CompiledMethod (scanLongLoad...) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10642 10632 OutOfScopeNotification not needed https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10632 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Tools-MarcusDenker.1122.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Text-MarcusDenker.72.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1450.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Compiler-MarcusDenker.460.diff http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/AST-Interpreter-Extension-Mar…

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxTextLayout

by Benjamin

I think what Camillo want is to be able to interact with an object through a Morph Ben On May 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/5/16 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > I have a question concerning the new TxText layout. > How hard is it support inline non-text nodes (aka inline morphs) in a text layout? > > Do you mean supporting "TxMorphSpan" objects from text model at text layout level? > I think it is is not hard. Main issue here is supporting such kind of spans at text model level. But I think it is not difficult too, > I should look at code to answer in detail (can't do it now). > > > My dream is still to be able to drag and drop an "instance" from an inspector to a workspace and do some operations on it using standard smalltalk. > > +1 > And I want drag and drop objects between inspectors and between workspaces. > > The only difference here would be instead of using a variable or expression to get an instance of something I would have a textual/visual node directly representing an instance! > > I'm not understand it. > By dropping some object to workspace It can create named variable and then you can use it for scripting inside workspace. > But what you suggest here? Can you explan deeply? > > Best regards, > Denis > > best regard, > camillo >

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxTextLayout

by Denis Kudriashov

Hello. 2013/5/16 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > I have a question concerning the new TxText layout. > How hard is it support inline non-text nodes (aka inline morphs) in a text > layout? > Do you mean supporting "TxMorphSpan" objects from text model at text layout level? I think it is is not hard. Main issue here is supporting such kind of spans at text model level. But I think it is not difficult too, I should look at code to answer in detail (can't do it now). > > My dream is still to be able to drag and drop an "instance" from an > inspector to a workspace and do some operations on it using standard > smalltalk. +1 And I want drag and drop objects between inspectors and between workspaces. > The only difference here would be instead of using a variable or > expression to get an instance of something I would have a textual/visual > node directly representing an instance! > I'm not understand it. By dropping some object to workspace It can create named variable and then you can use it for scripting inside workspace. But what you suggest here? Can you explan deeply? Best regards, Denis best regard, > camillo >

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm fixes

by Benjamin

Sadly, yes I would LOVE to have multiple system windows, but I guess it's some VM limitation that I can't tackle :( Ben On May 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Does this mean that you will always have only one system window available? > > Doru > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > On May 16, 2013, at 4:04 AM, btc(a)openInWorld.com wrote: > > > Could this be used make Pharo dual-screened ? If yes, what would be the limitations ? > > no you cannot. Rght now the trick is just to set up the size of the hostwindow to the one of a morph. > > Stef > > > > cheers -ben > > > > Benjamin wrote: > >> In the following picture, instead of doing the classical MessageBrowser new openWithSpec, and get a Morphic window inside the os window of Pharo > >> > >> I do > >> MessageBrowser openWorldWithSpec > >> And here the message browser window *is* the system window. > >> Basically, it sticks the morph on the world, do some magic around, and voilÃ . > >> The cool part is that the rest of the code do not change at all, and still it opens a the good size, the title is properly updated etc > >> > >> > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > >> > >> > This sounds intriguing. Can you be more specific? :) > >> > > >> > Doru > >> > > >> > > >> > On May 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com > <mailto:benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thank you :) > >> >> > >> >> This fix goes with pair with > >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10619 > >> >> > >> >> Thanks to Esteban, one can now deploy a Spec widget with the os window as >> window :) > >> >> > >> >> Ben > >> >> > >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:19 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> thanks esteban! > >> >>> > >> >>> On May 14, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Hi, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I just pushed fix for a weird bug in cocoa cog vm. > >> >>>> It was crashing image when resizing using DisplayScreen>>#hostWindowSize: >>>> but even worst, some times was crashing also when dragging a window >>>> outside the world screen... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The fix is there, but you will need to wait until tomorrow to have it in >>>> zeroconf (because of weird mac jenkins slave permissions). > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This increases a bit more the VM stability, still not perfect, but we are >>>> getting closer :) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Esteban > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > >> > > >> > "Presenting is storytelling." > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 16, 2013

Who want to be a national hero :)?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys we should have a menu in the MCBrowser that generates a gofer expression. so that we can simply send around gofer script to load a projectâ¦. Any takers? Stef

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm fixes

by stephane ducasse

yes On May 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Does this mean that you will always have only one system window available? > > Doru > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > On May 16, 2013, at 4:04 AM, btc(a)openInWorld.com wrote: > > > Could this be used make Pharo dual-screened ? If yes, what would be the limitations ? > > no you cannot. Rght now the trick is just to set up the size of the hostwindow to the one of a morph. > > Stef > > > > cheers -ben > > > > Benjamin wrote: > >> In the following picture, instead of doing the classical MessageBrowser new openWithSpec, and get a Morphic window inside the os window of Pharo > >> > >> I do > >> MessageBrowser openWorldWithSpec > >> And here the message browser window *is* the system window. > >> Basically, it sticks the morph on the world, do some magic around, and voilÃ . > >> The cool part is that the rest of the code do not change at all, and still it opens a the good size, the title is properly updated etc > >> > >> > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > >> > >> > This sounds intriguing. Can you be more specific? :) > >> > > >> > Doru > >> > > >> > > >> > On May 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com > <mailto:benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thank you :) > >> >> > >> >> This fix goes with pair with > >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10619 > >> >> > >> >> Thanks to Esteban, one can now deploy a Spec widget with the os window as >> window :) > >> >> > >> >> Ben > >> >> > >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:19 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> thanks esteban! > >> >>> > >> >>> On May 14, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Hi, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I just pushed fix for a weird bug in cocoa cog vm. > >> >>>> It was crashing image when resizing using DisplayScreen>>#hostWindowSize: >>>> but even worst, some times was crashing also when dragging a window >>>> outside the world screen... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The fix is there, but you will need to wait until tomorrow to have it in >>>> zeroconf (because of weird mac jenkins slave permissions). > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This increases a bit more the VM stability, still not perfect, but we are >>>> getting closer :) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Esteban > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > >> > > >> > "Presenting is storytelling." > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] collaborActive book refers to SS

by stephane ducasse

On May 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 16 May 2013 10:38, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> On May 16, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Tidbits/FAQ/Packages/ >>> >>> talks about how you can create a SqueakSource project. Presumably we >>> want this to explain either how to create an SS3 project or a StHub >>> project? >>> >>> If all I need to do is issue a pull request to >>> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english/ I'm >>> happy to update it to whichever you prefer. >> >> please do :) > > I'm guessing you'd want to point to StHub? yes > (I use ss3 for everything, > but it seems most of the Pharo devs are pushing for StHub.) Yes

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm fixes

by Tudor Girba

Does this mean that you will always have only one system window available? Doru On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr > wrote: > > On May 16, 2013, at 4:04 AM, btc(a)openInWorld.com wrote: > > > Could this be used make Pharo dual-screened ? If yes, what would be the > limitations ? > > no you cannot. Rght now the trick is just to set up the size of the > hostwindow to the one of a morph. > > Stef > > > > cheers -ben > > > > Benjamin wrote: > >> In the following picture, instead of doing the classical MessageBrowser > new openWithSpec, and get a Morphic window inside the os window of Pharo > >> > >> I do > >> MessageBrowser openWorldWithSpec > >> And here the message browser window *is* the system window. > >> Basically, it sticks the morph on the world, do some magic around, and > voilÃ . > >> The cool part is that the rest of the code do not change at all, and > still it opens a the good size, the title is properly updated etc > >> > >> > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com<mailto: > tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > >> > >> > This sounds intriguing. Can you be more specific? :) > >> > > >> > Doru > >> > > >> > > >> > On May 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Benjamin < > benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com > <mailto: > benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thank you :) > >> >> > >> >> This fix goes with pair with > >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10619 > >> >> > >> >> Thanks to Esteban, one can now deploy a Spec widget with the os > window as >> window :) > >> >> > >> >> Ben > >> >> > >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 10:19 PM, stephane ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> thanks esteban! > >> >>> > >> >>> On May 14, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Hi, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I just pushed fix for a weird bug in cocoa cog vm. > >> >>>> It was crashing image when resizing using > DisplayScreen>>#hostWindowSize: >>>> but even worst, some times was > crashing also when dragging a window >>>> outside the world screen... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The fix is there, but you will need to wait until tomorrow to have > it in >>>> zeroconf (because of weird mac jenkins slave permissions). > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This increases a bit more the VM stability, still not perfect, but > we are >>>> getting closer :) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Esteban > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > >> > > >> > "Presenting is storytelling." > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] collaborActive book refers to SS

by Frank Shearar

On 16 May 2013 10:38, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > On May 16, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Tidbits/FAQ/Packages/ >> >> talks about how you can create a SqueakSource project. Presumably we >> want this to explain either how to create an SS3 project or a StHub >> project? >> >> If all I need to do is issue a pull request to >> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english/ I'm >> happy to update it to whichever you prefer. > > please do :) I'm guessing you'd want to point to StHub? (I use ss3 for everything, but it seems most of the Pharo devs are pushing for StHub.) frank >> frank >> > >

May 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Doubt about RING

by Sebastian Tleye

Thanks Marcus! 2013/5/16 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On May 15, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Igor, i think you are right. > > I am not sure what "isObsolete" does, but for Ring classes, which are > created dinamically, it doesn't seem that "isObsolete" is useful. (at least > is my intuition) > > > > Obsolete classes happen if you delete a class, yet there are still > instances. This is needed as classes do not model history. > But > a) Ring classes are not directly instantiated (they are not > referenced from the header of the instances) > b) They even are able to model history very nicely > > So the obsolete concept makes no senseâ¦ an obsolete class might even have > a (Historical) Ring class associated with it > and Ring would have no problem at all. > > Marcus >

May 16, 2013