May 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] upper vs. lower case

by Igor Stasenko

On 3 May 2013 00:15, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > SmallLint rule :) > yes.. forgot it. Indeed this is right way to do it. I don't like changing system in a way to accept only things which is "right" today. Because today's "right" often get's tomorrows "wrong". > Ben > > On May 2, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2 May 2013 21:04, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > While trying out my new in-image filesystem to file-out my image I encounter > strange things :) related to upper and lowercase names: > > - some classes have the same method category with different cases! > - some testClasses have the same method with different cases > > I think this should be avoided if possible, what do you think? > > > yes, there's two ways to deal with it: > - force the new rule(s) to the system > - make system resilient (or flexible enough, if you want) to such > freedom of expression > > guess what i will vote for? :) > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] upper vs. lower case

by Benjamin

SmallLint rule :) Ben On May 2, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 May 2013 21:04, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> While trying out my new in-image filesystem to file-out my image I encounter >> strange things :) related to upper and lowercase names: >> >> - some classes have the same method category with different cases! >> - some testClasses have the same method with different cases >> >> I think this should be avoided if possible, what do you think? >> > > yes, there's two ways to deal with it: > - force the new rule(s) to the system > - make system resilient (or flexible enough, if you want) to such > freedom of expression > > guess what i will vote for? :) > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] sprint image preparation

by Camillo Bruni

>>>> I don't seem to express myself clearly enough :) >>> I want to remove the current pending list of ~30 Delay wait processes >>> in the files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip just that we have a more or >>> less clean image for the sprint tomorrow. >>> >> ahh.. yes, that makes sense :) >> > here the code snippet to get rid of them: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7553&q=DateAndTime&colspec=… thanks :) I forgot about that ;)

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] sprint image preparation

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 May 2013 23:49, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 May 2013 23:30, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 2013-05-02, at 22:32, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2 May 2013 19:37, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2013-05-02, at 19:31, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2013 19:28, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Could we upload a new version of the latest image with all the >>>>>> DateAndTime delays removed? I think that would be nice for the >>>>>> sprint tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can do it later this evening, unless some special care is >>>>>> needed for that? >>>>>> >>>>> i did not finished cleaning up the code in my refactoring (and this is >>>>> what planned to do for sprint). >>>>> however the image with changes i made works for 2nd week without any >>>>> problems so far :) >>>> >>>> I did not mean to solve the problem :) just to fight the symptoms for >>>> tomorrow, since sometimes you get strange side-effects from it :/ >>>> >>> just take 3.0 image that's it >> >> I don't seem to express myself clearly enough :) >> I want to remove the current pending list of ~30 Delay wait processes >> in the files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip just that we have a more or >> less clean image for the sprint tomorrow. >> > ahh.. yes, that makes sense :) > here the code snippet to get rid of them: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7553&q=DateAndTime&colspec=… > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] sprint image preparation

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 May 2013 23:30, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-05-02, at 22:32, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2 May 2013 19:37, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 2013-05-02, at 19:31, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2 May 2013 19:28, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Could we upload a new version of the latest image with all the >>>>> DateAndTime delays removed? I think that would be nice for the >>>>> sprint tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> I can do it later this evening, unless some special care is >>>>> needed for that? >>>>> >>>> i did not finished cleaning up the code in my refactoring (and this is >>>> what planned to do for sprint). >>>> however the image with changes i made works for 2nd week without any >>>> problems so far :) >>> >>> I did not mean to solve the problem :) just to fight the symptoms for >>> tomorrow, since sometimes you get strange side-effects from it :/ >>> >> just take 3.0 image that's it > > I don't seem to express myself clearly enough :) > I want to remove the current pending list of ~30 Delay wait processes > in the files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip just that we have a more or > less clean image for the sprint tomorrow. > ahh.. yes, that makes sense :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] sprint image preparation

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-05-02, at 22:32, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 May 2013 19:37, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 2013-05-02, at 19:31, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2 May 2013 19:28, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Could we upload a new version of the latest image with all the >>>> DateAndTime delays removed? I think that would be nice for the >>>> sprint tomorrow. >>>> >>>> I can do it later this evening, unless some special care is >>>> needed for that? >>>> >>> i did not finished cleaning up the code in my refactoring (and this is >>> what planned to do for sprint). >>> however the image with changes i made works for 2nd week without any >>> problems so far :) >> >> I did not mean to solve the problem :) just to fight the symptoms for >> tomorrow, since sometimes you get strange side-effects from it :/ >> > just take 3.0 image that's it I don't seem to express myself clearly enough :) I want to remove the current pending list of ~30 Delay wait processes in the files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip just that we have a more or less clean image for the sprint tomorrow.

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] upper vs. lower case

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 May 2013 21:04, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > While trying out my new in-image filesystem to file-out my image I encounter > strange things :) related to upper and lowercase names: > > - some classes have the same method category with different cases! > - some testClasses have the same method with different cases > > I think this should be avoided if possible, what do you think? > yes, there's two ways to deal with it: - force the new rule(s) to the system - make system resilient (or flexible enough, if you want) to such freedom of expression guess what i will vote for? :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] sprint image preparation

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 May 2013 19:37, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-05-02, at 19:31, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2 May 2013 19:28, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Could we upload a new version of the latest image with all the >>> DateAndTime delays removed? I think that would be nice for the >>> sprint tomorrow. >>> >>> I can do it later this evening, unless some special care is >>> needed for that? >>> >> i did not finished cleaning up the code in my refactoring (and this is >> what planned to do for sprint). >> however the image with changes i made works for 2nd week without any >> problems so far :) > > I did not mean to solve the problem :) just to fight the symptoms for > tomorrow, since sometimes you get strange side-effects from it :/ > just take 3.0 image that's it -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 2, 2013

[Pharo-project] NewListModel and AlainTreeModel

by Benjamin

Hello :) I am glad to announce that I have spent some time on Spec, and introduce to new models :) 1) NewListModel This is the spec model for the new implementation of the list. It adds some cool features like a header, a real lazy display implementation, a better mechanism for drag and dropping and few more :) The spec model almost cover everything, and is backward compatible with ListComposableModel :) It means you can switch by just changing the instantiateModels method. Soon I will officially migrate to the NewListModel as default, but right now both exists. 2) AlainTreeModel This is the spec model for MorphTreeMorph (the name is a tribute to Alain Plantec ^^). Every one (should) know that MorphTreeMorph is *a lot* more powerful and flexible that PluggableTreeMorph, so I encourage every one to use it :) Once again, the api is the same, so AlainTreeModel is fully compatible with TreeModel. And once again, I will turn it into the default TreeModel soon, but I give you a bit of time to chase bugs :) If you want to try the new models, I will be glad to collect your feedbacks, to help you as much as I can, and to fix the remaining bugs :) Ben

May 2, 2013

[Pharo-project] [Fun] Pharo Sprint -- co-event

by Luc Fabresse

Hi Guys, Sadly, I will not be there for the Sprint this Friday. But you choose a significant date because there is a balloon event in Lille: http://montgolfiades.ec-lille.fr/la-manifestation/programme-des-xxiiemes/ Perhaps some of you will be interested ;-) Cheers, #Luc

May 2, 2013