May 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Norbert Hartl

In case of RFB I want it mostly with morphic ui manager. On the other hand it is an option when starting my server. The images runs headless anyway because there is no display driver. I don't see a problem here. Norbert Am 03.05.2013 um 20:17 schrieb "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote >> What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing >> "UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new." ? > > But you don't necessarily always want it to be headful, do you? If you have > a headless server image, then use RFB to debug, then it seems you would want > to subsequently start headless again, and then maybe realize you need to > debug more and start Morphic... Could there be a concept of an RFB session, > so when a connection is made to the RFB socket, the session is started > (including installing the correct UI Manager), and then cleared manually or > on shutdown (reinstalling the original manager)... how does that sound? > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/RFB-in-2-0-tp4685418p4685430.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] A SmalltalkHub server for each

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ah, cool! 2013/5/3 jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > really cool ! > Thank you guys ! > > Jannik > > On May 3, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Great work! Thanks a lot! > > > > > > BTW on which Seaside version do you depend (and which pharo image?) > > > > > > On 2013-05-03, at 17:42, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Nicolas Petton, Benjamin van Ryseghem and I are proud to announce a > >> ConfigurationOfSmalltalkHub and a dedicated Jenkins job: > >> > >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/SmalltalkHub/ > >> > >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolasPetton/SmalltalkHub > >> > >> Everyone can now have its own private instance of SmalltalkHub. > >> > >> So, if you need a feature in SmalltalkHub, you can now implement it > >> yourself! Please do :-) > >> > >> -- > >> Damien Cassou > >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >> > >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing > >> enthusiasm." > >> Winston Churchill > > > > > > >

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing > "UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new." ? But you don't necessarily always want it to be headful, do you? If you have a headless server image, then use RFB to debug, then it seems you would want to subsequently start headless again, and then maybe realize you need to debug more and start Morphic... Could there be a concept of an RFB session, so when a connection is made to the RFB socket, the session is started (including installing the correct UI Manager), and then cleared manually or on shutdown (reinstalling the original manager)... how does that sound? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/RFB-in-2-0-tp4685418p4685430.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] A SmalltalkHub server for each

by jannik.laval

really cool ! Thank you guys ! Jannik On May 3, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Great work! Thanks a lot! > > > BTW on which Seaside version do you depend (and which pharo image?) > > > On 2013-05-03, at 17:42, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Nicolas Petton, Benjamin van Ryseghem and I are proud to announce a >> ConfigurationOfSmalltalkHub and a dedicated Jenkins job: >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/SmalltalkHub/ >> >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolasPetton/SmalltalkHub >> >> Everyone can now have its own private instance of SmalltalkHub. >> >> So, if you need a feature in SmalltalkHub, you can now implement it >> yourself! Please do :-) >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing >> enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill > >

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 03.05.2013 um 20:00 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Norbert, > > I would move it to its own new repo in SmalltalkHub. > > Ok, but then it goes under my private section, right? > you can put it under PharoContributions team. > > Also, I had another problem with RFB and the UIManager. The solution I > found was this one: > http://samadhiweb.com/blog/2012.11.04.headless.rfb.html > I don't like it because I need to change Pharo's base source, but I didn't > spend time finding a better solution...I guess there is, though. > > The first line of code all my images (deployed on server using RFB) see is > > UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. > > I was going to do that as well. But it is not clear to me WHERE you write that line of code. Because even if you save the image with that, doesn't the image set its own UI manager when booting? So I guess you need to pass around a script when running the image or something? What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing "UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new." ? Best, > With that I don't have problems at all. > > thanks, > > Norbert > > Best, > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in >> RFBSession>>#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. >> >> The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that >> stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write >> permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> >> > Esteban, >> > >> > now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and >> server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to >> connect to a pharo2.0 image. >> > >> > Did you figure it out? >> > >> > Norbert >> >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Norbert Hartl

Am 03.05.2013 um 20:00 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Norbert, > > I would move it to its own new repo in SmalltalkHub. > Ok, but then it goes under my private section, right? > Also, I had another problem with RFB and the UIManager. The solution I found was this one: http://samadhiweb.com/blog/2012.11.04.headless.rfb.html > I don't like it because I need to change Pharo's base source, but I didn't spend time finding a better solution...I guess there is, though. > The first line of code all my images (deployed on server using RFB) see is UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. With that I don't have problems at all. thanks, Norbert > Best, > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in RFBSession>>#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. > > The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. > > Norbert > > Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > > Esteban, > > > > now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to connect to a pharo2.0 image. > > > > Did you figure it out? > > > > Norbert > > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Norbert, I would move it to its own new repo in SmalltalkHub. Also, I had another problem with RFB and the UIManager. The solution I found was this one: http://samadhiweb.com/blog/2012.11.04.headless.rfb.html I don't like it because I need to change Pharo's base source, but I didn't spend time finding a better solution...I guess there is, though. Best, On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in > RFBSession>>#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. > > The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that > stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write > permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. > > Norbert > > Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > > Esteban, > > > > now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and > server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to > connect to a pharo2.0 image. > > > > Did you figure it out? > > > > Norbert > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Norbert Hartl

I've found the problem. There is a FileDirectory access in RFBSession>>#desktopName. Removing it makes RFB work. The current RFB sources are on Lukas' server. What do we do with that stuff? Move to smalltalkhub? If not I can ask Lukas to give me write permission. Just wanted to ask what kind of behaviour is en vogue this days. Norbert Am 03.05.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > Esteban, > > now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to connect to a pharo2.0 image. > > Did you figure it out? > > Norbert

May 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] froze image just

by Igor Stasenko

On 3 May 2013 13:34, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On May 3, 2013, at 12:05 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > Well, add me as well please :-) > > > > Done and as i heard it is already integrated, yes? > > 2013/5/3 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >> >> >> On May 3, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Henrik Johansen >> <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: >> >> > Sooooâ¦. >> > I made a slice, but how does one save to the new inbox? >> > You need credentials + some sort of access privileges all of a sudden? >> > :S >> > >> Yes, this is a temporary problem. Soon you can commit without being logged >> in. >> >> I added you for until this is done. >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 3, 2013

[Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

by Norbert Hartl

Esteban, now I can tell that it isn't working for me either. Socket is open and server is running. But there are immediate disconnects when trying to connect to a pharo2.0 image. Did you figure it out? Norbert

May 3, 2013