May 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Zeroconf and OS string

by phil＠highoctane.be

Also, once the system is installed, launching it gives a little error... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10537 2013/5/6 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > > On 2013-05-05, at 10:53, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > > > Am 05.05.2013 um 10:44 schrieb "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be > >: > > > >> on Mobaxterm the output of uname -a is > >> > >> [Philippe.DELLGFX] â uname -a > >> CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 DELLGFX 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) 2012-10-28 12:24 i686 > GNU/Linux > >> > >> > >> Clearly no Windows in there. > >> > > Hmm, I think you are running Windows 7 on a Dell laptop :) CYGWIN_NT-6.1 > should be windows enough in there, right? CYG is a good information and the > rest you can look up at > > yes, I update the zeroconf script to just match .*win.* that should work a > bit better. > I quickly have to test them under windows then I will release them into > the wild >

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ah, spoke too fast: Philippe@DELLGFX /d/DevSmalltalk/workspacePharo20 $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/vm | bash --2013-05-06 13:41:06-- http://get.pharo.org/vm Resolving get.pharo.org... 108.162.196.47, 108.162.197.47 Connecting to get.pharo.org|108.162.196.47|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `STDOUT' [ <=> ] 5,275 22.3K/s in 0.2s 2013-05-06 13:41:08 (22.3 KB/s) - written to stdout [5275] Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/win/pharo-win-stable.zip bash: line 75: unzip: command not found One needs unzip as well... mingw-get install msys-unzip did the trick. An annoying thing is that on a failed install, the pharo-vm folder isn't trashed without further ado but we get: ... 2013-05-06 13:44:20 (1.20 MB/s) - written to stdout [5275] Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/win/pharo-win-stable.zip mkdir: cannot create directory `pharo-vm': File exists Philippe@DELLGFX /d/DevSmalltalk/workspacePharo20 $ ls pharo-vm Philippe@DELLGFX /d/DevSmalltalk/workspacePharo20 $ rm -rf pharo-vm Then it is all right (but with a mention of latest in the prompts, and then downloading stable). Philippe@DELLGFX /d/DevSmalltalk/workspacePharo20 $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/vm | bash --2013-05-06 13:45:52-- http://get.pharo.org/vm Resolving get.pharo.org... 108.162.197.47, 108.162.196.47 Connecting to get.pharo.org|108.162.197.47|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `STDOUT' [ <=> ] 5,275 --.-K/s in 0.1s 2013-05-06 13:45:53 (49.2 KB/s) - written to stdout [5275] Downloading the *latest *pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/win/pharo-win-*stable*.zip pharo-vm/Pharo.exe Downloading PharoV10.sources: http://files.pharo.org/image//PharoV10.sources.zip Downloading PharoV20.sources: http://files.pharo.org/image//PharoV20.sources.zip Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui Regards, Phil 2013/5/6 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > > On 2013-05-06, at 13:14, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > > There is no wget nor curl in the base MinGW distribution. > > > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > > $ which wget > > which: wget: unknown command > > > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > > $ which curl > > which: curl: unknown command > > > > > > You either compiled, downloaded, or had it from somewhere else on the > box. > > yes mingw sucks a bit in that matter. to install wget run the following > magic: > > mingw-get install msys-wget > > > >

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by phil＠highoctane.be

Thanks, the incantation worked. Question: get.pharo.org/vmThis script downloads the latest Pharo VM. get.pharo.org/vmLatestThis script downloads the latest Pharo VM. Why are they both "latest" in the description? Phil 2013/5/6 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > > On 2013-05-06, at 13:14, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > > There is no wget nor curl in the base MinGW distribution. > > > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > > $ which wget > > which: wget: unknown command > > > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > > $ which curl > > which: curl: unknown command > > > > > > You either compiled, downloaded, or had it from somewhere else on the > box. > > yes mingw sucks a bit in that matter. to install wget run the following > magic: > > mingw-get install msys-wget > > > >

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Zeroconf and OS string

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-05-05, at 10:53, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 05.05.2013 um 10:44 schrieb "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > >> on Mobaxterm the output of uname -a is >> >> [Philippe.DELLGFX] â uname -a >> CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 DELLGFX 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) 2012-10-28 12:24 i686 GNU/Linux >> >> >> Clearly no Windows in there. >> > Hmm, I think you are running Windows 7 on a Dell laptop :) CYGWIN_NT-6.1 should be windows enough in there, right? CYG is a good information and the rest you can look up at yes, I update the zeroconf script to just match .*win.* that should work a bit better. I quickly have to test them under windows then I will release them into the wild

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-05-06, at 13:14, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > There is no wget nor curl in the base MinGW distribution. > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > $ which wget > which: wget: unknown command > > Philippe@DELLGFX ~ > $ which curl > which: curl: unknown command > > > You either compiled, downloaded, or had it from somewhere else on the box. yes mingw sucks a bit in that matter. to install wget run the following magic: mingw-get install msys-wget

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by phil＠highoctane.be

There is no wget nor curl in the base MinGW distribution. Philippe@DELLGFX ~ $ which wget which: wget: unknown command Philippe@DELLGFX ~ $ which curl which: curl: unknown command You either compiled, downloaded, or had it from somewhere else on the box. So, which one is recommended? Phil 2013/5/6 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > > On 2013-05-06, at 11:40, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > > BTW, I installed MinGW for a test on windows. > > > > Obviously there is no curl in there out of the box. > > > > What would be your recommendation for getting a curl version compatible > w/ > > that? > > wget should work :) (this is what we use on the ci servers): > > wget -O - get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash > > >>>> curl -L get.pharo.org/30 | bash > >>>> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time > >> Current > >>>> Dload Upload Total Spent Left > >> Speed > >>>> 100 2504 0 2504 0 0 41713 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- > 65894 > >>>> Please install curl or wget on your machine > > > ok fixed it in the latest version of zeroconf. > The following detection does not work with a redirect :) > > if [[ `which curl &> /dev/null` ]] ... > > > >

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Help-smalltalk] Fun with Pharo generated source.st

by Henrik Johansen

On May 5, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Il 04/05/2013 18:51, Holger Hans Peter Freyther ha scritto: >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to convert/import all of Iliad (since the development had >> moved to Pharo) and I stumble up-on an issue I already had when I tried >> to convert Aida. >> >> This[1] monticello file in line 6417 starts to use UCS-4 for a string >> and then stops at some characters later. Importing the file using >> FileStream is failing in Pharo as well. > > And how does monticello file it in then?!? I'm adding the Pharo list. > > Paolo It's a dirty little secretâ¦ The .st files stored in MC packages (at least written from Pharo/Squeak) are not Unicode-safe. The way it's concealed is that, by default, the binary format file in the MC package is used, from which WideStrings are read correctly. The way to "fix" it when porting to other dialects, is either a) Remove any non-latin1 from the source code b) Write a reader for the binary format (which isn't all that hard, there are a limited set of classes involved that needs to be converted to whatever the dialect-equivalent is) Cheers, Henry

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Using Athens for real ...

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, looks exciting! Alexandre On May 4, 2013, at 3:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Else I can do a mail to the moose mailing... >> Date: May 4, 2013 12:45:36 AM GMT+02:00 >> To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >> So i spent a little time to make an experiment, how fast i can render >> the tree visualization. >> >> (gray screenshot) >> This one i can zoom& pan in real time without even noticing any sort of delay: >> >> (AthensTreeView >> openOn: Collection extentBlock: [ :cls | (cls allInstVarNames >> size+1)*5 @ (cls methodDict size + 1) ] >> childsBlock: [ :cls | cls subclasses ]). >> >> >> (white screenshot) >> This one a bit sluggish, because of drawing too many curves (but if >> you comment curve drawing - connecting each child with its parent, >> and leave drawing only boxes.. it will be quite fast.. for real-time zoom & pan) >> >> (AthensTreeView >> openOn: Object extentBlock: [ :cls | (cls allInstVarNames >> size+1)*5 @ (cls methodDict size + 1) ] >> childsBlock: [ :cls | cls subclasses ]). >> >> And sure, smart people usually employ different visualizations for >> such large trees, since it makes no sense: >> Object withAllSubclasses size >> 6882 >> >> but even without it, if you limit max zoom, you can go very fast ( >> there is a lot of literature how you can do geometry culling (by >> occluding unnecessary >> geometry to not waste cycles on it, since it is outside of view anyways) >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. > <Screen Shot 2013-05-04 at 12.33.02 AM.png> > <Screen Shot 2013-05-04 at 12.35.35 AM.png> > <AthensTreeView.st> > <AthensSimpleTreeNode.st> > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by Igor Stasenko

On 6 May 2013 11:25, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-05-06, at 07:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> On 06 May 2013, at 04:42, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> curl -L get.pharo.org/30 | bash >>> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current >>> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed >>> 100 2504 0 2504 0 0 41713 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 65894 >>> Please install curl or wget on your machine >>> >>> :( >>> >>> i have curl ^^, coz how else i could see that message! :) > > it basically does only > > which wget > which curl > > I assume they work, but what do you get back as a result? which curl /usr/bin/curl -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] something wrong with get.pharo.org

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-05-06, at 11:40, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > BTW, I installed MinGW for a test on windows. > > Obviously there is no curl in there out of the box. > > What would be your recommendation for getting a curl version compatible w/ > that? wget should work :) (this is what we use on the ci servers): wget -O - get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash >>>> curl -L get.pharo.org/30 | bash >>>> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time >> Current >>>> Dload Upload Total Spent Left >> Speed >>>> 100 2504 0 2504 0 0 41713 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 65894 >>>> Please install curl or wget on your machine ok fixed it in the latest version of zeroconf. The following detection does not work with a redirect :) if [[ `which curl &> /dev/null` ]] ...

May 6, 2013