April 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Pharo Association reaches 50 Members

by stephane ducasse

Great We got a list of improvements on the pipe for the association web site and we should start to think about actions. Stef On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > The Pharo Association has reached 52 Members! > > The Pharo User Association is a way for individuals to support the ongoing development and > maintenance of the Pharo language and environment. It complements the Pharo Consortium > which is a consortium of companies supporting Pharo. > > Together the association and the consortium invest in the future of Pharo. > > Information about how to join the Pharo Association and Consortium can be found on the website. > > http://association.pharo.org > http://consortium.pharo.org > > Marcus > >

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] One SlideShare, One Youtube channel for Pharo?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

It will be cool to use some service, that allows 'groups'. For example on vimeo you can create a Pharo group and then include there videos of the users. This way you do not have to re-uppload content that is already there, and people get their credit. uko On 6 ÐºÐ²ÑÑ. 2013, at 09:48, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I would love to have one > - slideshare for pharo presentations reachable from the web site. > > http://www.slideshare.net/search/slideshow?searchfrom=header&q=pharo > > - videos conference/presentation on Youtube > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pharo+st&oq=pharo+st&gs_l=youtu… > > > - "lectures" > > http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_pharo is wonderful :) > http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_tools > http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_pharo_net > > http://www.pharocasts.com > > What do you think? > Does anybody want to take the lead for that? > >

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOf

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:58 AM, roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch wrote: > Hi, > > I build the ConfigurationOf for my current project and it works fine, but I have some doubts. > My project has dependencies on two other projects, namely Spy and Fuel. > In my ConfigurationOf I'm loading these two projects before fetching my code. > > The point is that, for example, I'm loading Fuel even if it is already loaded in the current image and the same for Spy. > > Could you help me in creating a ConfigurationOf which only loads those projects if not already in the image and eventually only updates them to the last version? this is the default behavior of metacello so I do not understand what you mean. Did you read the metacello chapter I wrote? > > Thanks in advance, > R > > P.s. Here (http://ws.stfx.eu/QOMGC86FZTG) is my current baseline for the ConfigurationOf.

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys we should learn a bit from this burst of rage and emails :). First I think that we should limit the discussions on the bug tracker because I do not see how we can manage a thread of discussion on the bug tracker and the list is for discussion. I know what is it to have a look at long bug entry discussions and this is also tedious. So we should find a middle way. Second of course once we agree on something it should be moved to the bugtracker and in slice to follow our process. Third ben I agree that looking for mails and threads is boring now this is why we should have - discussion in the list and code to illustrate the points - consensus on the "solution" - move to the bugtracker for technical fine tuning and fix proposal. Fourth I still think that emails are poor ways to manage human communication so we should pay attention and try to remove our hands from the keyboard when we are getting mad. Believe I quite good at that even when I'm getting older :) Sixth there is a nice italian proverb that say: Do not shit where you eat. I think that it is wise and avoid kiddish behavior like this is not me but him. So think positively. I think that we are steadily improving and we should continue now we should communicate more. Seventh if I take your energy as your engagement for pharo as a measure then this is great and Pharo will move forward :). Stef > In that case an issue tracker entry makes not much sense, we first need to discuss what > to do.

April 6, 2013

[Pharo-project] One SlideShare, One Youtube channel for Pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I would love to have one - slideshare for pharo presentations reachable from the web site. http://www.slideshare.net/search/slideshow?searchfrom=header&q=pharo - videos conference/presentation on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pharo+st&oq=pharo+st&gs_l=youtu… - "lectures" http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_pharo is wonderful :) http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_tools http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?content=st4u_pharo_net http://www.pharocasts.com What do you think? Does anybody want to take the lead for that?

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Preview] Branch test coverage analysis tool for Pharo 3.0 :)

by Camillo Bruni

cool work! On 2013-04-06, at 08:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Clement built in a couple of hours the following nice branch analysecoverage tools :) > It is dead slow but cool. > > With the AST navigation Gisela just started to work on we will have a really cool system. > > Stef > >> <image.png> >

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Physical Etoys 2.1 released!

by stephane ducasse

Thanks ricardo! Continue your great work. On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody (and sorry if you receive multiple copies), > > It's been a while since our last version but we're proud to announce a new release of Physical Etoys. > You can download it from here: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/projects/physical-etoys/ > > This new version includes: > * Full support for the DuinoBot kit (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1689254125/multiplo-create-your-own-rob…) > * New objects such as the Timer and the IR receiver. > * More example projects to help you get started. > * And of course, lots of bug fixes and minor UI enhancements. > > All in all, this version is much better than the previous and we hope you would enjoy it as much as we do :). > > Thanks! > Richo

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Just a question: Is there any plan for a Metacello 2? > We have learnt a lot and we have a clear idea on a number of versioning scenarios. What do we want the future of packaging in Pharo to look like? can you describe your scenario because we want versionner++ to support some keys scenarios and not all of them. Christophe is working on TravisCI so that dale can work with Pharo2.0 Stef > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15762706/how-to-define-a-configurationof… >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: Big thanks for the organization of the Pharo Conf and MooseDay

by Max Leske

I recorded a screencast and put it on Vimeo: vimeo.com/maxleske/fueltankerdemo. Cheers, Max On 05.04.2013, at 18:44, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > On 5 apr 2013, at 12:16, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> I would also want to thank the participants! The atmosphere was nice and the presentation was interesting. >> >> I for one learnt quite a bit. >> >> The sessions were recorded, and once Stephan Eggermont will convert them, they will be posted. > > And for some ideas on when that will be: I just got back from Diego with 72 GB of video files. > This weekend I might find some time to proces them, but the whole week I'm at Accu2013 in Bristol. > So what's not posted on monday, will take at least a week more. > > If anyone has other material (sheets, screencasts, other video) please let me know > > I'll keep you posted. > > Stephan > >

April 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

by phil＠highoctane.be

Works very well for me with a 100ms delay 2013/4/6 Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> > fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController to: > - accept both <enter> and <tab> for code completion > - still use <tab> to first complete the common prefixes, but a subsequent > <tab> will select the suggestion > > i.e. this is the behavior in XCode, which imho is a very good one. > > _and_ I do not have to disable the completion of common prefixes if I want > to disable <enter> for selection. > > Maybe people should give this a try and see? > > cheers > Johan > > > > > > On 06 Apr 2013, at 02:18, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: > > > Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> +1 > >> > >> Alexandre > >> > >> > >> On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> Doru > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 3 April 2013 22:45, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> theres a setting to: > >>>>> > >>>>> - disable ENTER to accept the completion > >>>>> - to increase the popup delay > >>>>> > >>>>> so I think that is invalid bug report then... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> i tend to disagree. > >>>> The defaults which we have now in 2.0 for autocompletion > >>>> is breaking my workflow badly too. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, i can go to settings and disable/reconfigure stuff but that > doesn't > >>>> nullifying the fact, that my workflow is broken with ambiguous and > inconsistent > >>>> reaction(s) to my keystrokes by UI if i keep defaults. > >>>> > >>>> For instance i am still clueless, why 'enter' is default for > autocompletion, > >>>> and disabling it and enabling 'tab' simply doesn't works. > >>>> That leaves me with the only option: keep using 'enter' for > >>>> autocompletion, if i ever want to use it. > >>>> We have to fix that. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 22:23, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> From > >>>>>> > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10219/Completion-enter-on-accept-awkwardn… > >>>>>> : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The combination of enter on accept, with the current behavior to > select > >>>>>>> the first completion suggestion by default = trouble. For example: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. Type "printOn: aStream"... pretty common method start > >>>>>>> 2. Hit enter to go to the next line > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You will now have "printOn: MCDataStream" WTF!! I get burned by > this > >>>>>>> pretty regularly and it's annoying. I'm not sure what the fix > should be... > >>>>>>> probably no default selection in the suggestion menu, but possibly > only > >>>>>>> when enter on accept is enabled (t would require an extra key > press to > >>>>>>> complete and when do you ever type a tab in the middle of a line?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > I haven't used the 2.0 auto compeltion yet so I don't know if this is > relevant, but just a passing thought... When Microsoft Word muck up using > smart characters, one small saving grace is that it first enters my > original typing before "smart-ifying" it, such that ctrl-z undoes back to > my original typing. > > > > cheers -ben > > > > >

April 6, 2013