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Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by stephane ducasse

did you use platform logic? Because this may be the place to add this logic which is platform dependent. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > is this image-side patch or vm-side? or both? > > image-side only, a combination of native boost and reading of the standard ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by stephane ducasse

May be getSpyOf: should return a null object so that you do not have to type these ifNil: [ ] Setf On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Just wanted to share this with you: > https://vimeo.com/63319467 > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > is this image-side patch or vm-side? or both? image-side only, a combination of native boost and reading of the standard ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by stephane ducasse

Thanks this is cool. Now when you do an announce: just add one sentence to present what we will see. Do not let the user have to guess and click to get it. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Just wanted to share this with you: > https://vimeo.com/63319467 > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by stephane ducasse

gisela about command you should sit with ben to also see what we do we do in general. Do we provide a command hierarchy that can be shared among tools (message listâ¦) Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > > >I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors > There aren't suggestion for a class currently implemented so it won't offer you nothing yet. But something we can do it's to figure it out witch options would be nice to have, I was thinking in: > - Class references > - Hierarchy > - Browse the class > So tell me your ideas and I will try to make a command for that and then add it as a suggestion, if you browse #specialCommands (the message I'm using to find the available actions for the selected code) you will see that the only real implementors are the RBVariableNode and RBMessageNode. I think that the actions you want are for RBClassReference (I will check it). But tell me what would you expect to see as a quick action over a class reference :) > > > About the suggestion... the "smart ones" are at the end of the menu, the other ones are the default, it will be very cool to replace the hole menu (it's something that I have in my todolist) but for a 0 prototype I've just focused on adding more options. > In fact I surely will be commiting some changes for display just a suggestions menu using a short cut (alt+t) tomorrow. > > >Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. > > This is just the default behavior for implementors, since I'm using the same action, I will do some performace test in that and will check if I can add it as a task for my todo. Maybe searching for implementors isn't so fast and I wouldn't like to keep waiting a lot of time just to display a menu because maybe you don't even want to search implementors. > But it's a good point for navigation improvements that I also want to make :) > > Thanks for the review and let me know about witch suggestions would you like to have depending what you have selected, I will implement as many as possible and try to finish with an easy way to add more options. > > > > > 2013/4/10 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Hi Gisela, > > Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. > > Consider the following screenshot: > <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> > > I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors > > Another screenshot: > <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> > > I have selected the method startingPointOf: > > I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). >> >> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse implementors: >> <Implementors.png> >> >> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: >> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> >> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) >> >> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. >> >> >> >> >> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me some feedback... >> >> Gofer it >> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' >> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; >> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; >> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; >> load. >> >> :) >> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? > > Not easy to explain. I had the following scenario in mind: > > 1 - In nautilus, I select startingPointOf: in the code pane > 2 - I right click and I see the menu Implementors > 3 - Moving the mouse over this submenu gives me a submenu with all the implementors of the selector. > > A window less compared with what we have right now. Ah . For now we should reduce the number of items in the menu and make sure that everything works and is integrated into pharo. Then the extras :) And it will not be difficult to do. Now we should pay attention that you can get 50 or more implementor/senders. Stef > > Alexandre > > > >> >> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gisela, >>> >>> Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. >>> >>> Consider the following screenshot: >>> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> >>> >>> I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors >>> >>> Another screenshot: >>> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> >>> >>> I have selected the method startingPointOf: >>> >>> I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). >>>> >>>> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse implementors: >>>> <Implementors.png> >>>> >>>> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: >>>> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> >>>> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) >>>> >>>> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me some feedback... >>>> >>>> Gofer it >>>> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' >>>> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>>> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>>> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Please comment on a bug fix for Nautilus

by Sean P. DeNigris

n.b. this conversation is half on the issue tracker and half on the mailing list ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Please-comment-on-a-bug-fix-for-Nautilus-tp4680595p46… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 11, 2013

[Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Just wanted to share this with you: https://vimeo.com/63319467 Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by Gisela Decuzzi

I thought: (with a lot of imagination in my "draw") ______________________________ __________________ | Implementors of specialCommands > | RBProgramNode | ______________________________ | RBMessageNode | | RBVariableNode | __________________ And when you select one then you go to the usual method editor. Similar to the actual one but smaller and not so easy to see all implementations at once. Is that what you proposed? 2013/4/11 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > > May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = > methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? > > Not easy to explain. I had the following scenario in mind: > > 1 - In nautilus, I select startingPointOf: in the code pane > 2 - I right click and I see the menu Implementors > 3 - Moving the mouse over this submenu gives me a submenu with all the > implementors of the selector. > > A window less compared with what we have right now. > > Alexandre > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Gisela, > >> > >> Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. > >> > >> Consider the following screenshot: > >> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> > >> > >> I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to > look for the implementors > >> > >> Another screenshot: > >> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> > >> > >> I have selected the method startingPointOf: > >> > >> I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click > on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new > window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of > the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a > submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of > this method directly. > >> > >> Alexandre > >> > >> > >> On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to > the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature > that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). > >>> > >>> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right > now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse > implementors: > >>> <Implementors.png> > >>> > >>> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: > >>> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> > >>> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) > >>> > >>> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me > some feedback... > >>> > >>> Gofer it > >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' > >>> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; > >>> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; > >>> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; > >>> load. > >>> > >>> :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

by Alexandre Bergel

> May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? Not easy to explain. I had the following scenario in mind: 1 - In nautilus, I select startingPointOf: in the code pane 2 - I right click and I see the menu Implementors 3 - Moving the mouse over this submenu gives me a submenu with all the implementors of the selector. A window less compared with what we have right now. Alexandre > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Gisela, >> >> Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a contextual menu. >> >> Consider the following screenshot: >> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.45.51 PM.png> >> >> I have selected the class ROElement, and Nautilus still offers me to look for the implementors >> >> Another screenshot: >> <Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 5.49.32 PM.png> >> >> I have selected the method startingPointOf: >> >> I like the idea of easily accessing Implementors. Currently, if I click on "implementors of it" or in your menu "Implementors", I have a new window. Well.. why do I need a new window? Why not simply give the list of the implementors? You can easily turn your menu entry "Implementors" as a submenu (as for "Extended search...") that gives the six implementors of this method directly. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu depending on what it's selected with the cursor. (The same feature that ALT-Browser has, but now in Nautilus). >>> >>> It's just a little piece of code and has a lot of pending work, right now you can press right click over a message send and offers you browse implementors: >>> <Implementors.png> >>> >>> And if you are in an instance variable name and then right click: >>> <InstanceVariablesOptions.png> >>> (The same that ALT-Browser is doing, but in Nautilus) >>> >>> I developed in the latest 2.0 image. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So, if you want to load in your image, play a little and then give me some feedback... >>> >>> Gofer it >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela' >>> project: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>> package: 'SmartSuggestions'; >>> package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus'; >>> load. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 10, 2013