April 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-11, at 14:56, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 11.04.2013 um 14:44 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > >> Norbert, >> I deprecated now the old scripts and I had a look at your script proposal >> and I extended it a bit: >> >> https://gist.github.com/dh83/5363000 >> >> what do you think? >> > Looks good to me, although I find > > â¦ > IMAGE="$DIR/Pharo.image"; > if [ ! -z "$IMAGE" ]; > â¦ > > is a bit superfluous :) Agreed? I guess I can always output the warning ;) I am just not a bit fan of too much auto conversion (besides bash itself is magic enough). > Norbert > > P.S.: Thanks for picking it up. I need to have a look at the zeroconf stuff.

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, indeed Alexandre On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:37 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > May be getSpyOf: should return a null object so that you do not have to type these ifNil: [ ] > > Setf > On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Just wanted to share this with you: >> https://vimeo.com/63319467 >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Configuration browser doesn't works in 3.0?

by stephane ducasse

> > > Igor wrote: >> #Pharo3.0 >> #Latest update: #30013 > > Rather old, this was fixed in #30014 and 3.0 is already at #30031 > Please update your 3.0 image ;) :) I should do that too :) > > Bye > T. >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by stephane ducasse

we have a factory that create an object of each platform at startup. look t OSPlatform. > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:40 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > did you use platform logic? > > Stef, What do you mean exactly by platform logic? :) > > Yesterday I was working on mapping the KeyDown/KeyUp events to have uniform key values, and that included platform dependent code, so I'm interested :). > > Because this may be the place to add this logic which is platform dependent. > > Stef > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> is this image-side patch or vm-side? or both? >> >> image-side only, a combination of native boost and reading of the standard ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill > >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:40 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote: > did you use platform logic? > Because this may be the place to add this logic which is platform > dependent. > I put it in the platform dependent FileSystem class. Exactly where it was before, but now it is working. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Please comment on a bug fix for Nautilus

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > yes, I think is confusing > but we can have an option in settings for that :) > I'm only asking you to choose between what we already have, not an hypothetical future. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Norbert Hartl

Am 11.04.2013 um 14:44 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > Norbert, > I deprecated now the old scripts and I had a look at your script proposal > and I extended it a bit: > > https://gist.github.com/dh83/5363000 > > what do you think? > Looks good to me, although I find â¦ IMAGE="$DIR/Pharo.image"; if [ ! -z "$IMAGE" ]; â¦ is a bit superfluous :) Agreed? Norbert P.S.: Thanks for picking it up. I need to have a look at the zeroconf stuff. > On 2013-04-02, at 12:02, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes I just haven't fully announced it yet ;) since I only programmed them >> this saturday and was waiting for the pharo conf ;) >> >> But I will deprecate it with a warning message in it tomorrow or so. >> And then people should rename their scripts. >> >> >> On 2013-04-02, at 11:58, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> Well, I would say a >>> >>> mv vm-ui.sh pharo-ui >>> >>> would do a good job to get out of deprecation. Honestly if the scripts are deprecated just take them out of the download. I don't know why to leave them there because it is confusing. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 02.04.2013 um 11:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi Norbert, >>>> >>>> the vm-ui.sh script is deprecated (yep, Camillo already deprecated something, even if it is brand new). >>>> >>>> now the valid scripts are >>>> >>>> "pharo" and "pharo-ui" >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Another attempt. >>>>> >>>>> Norbert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah, rats, didn't think it through. It only works for commandline switches that do not have an argument itself. Sad and sorry! >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:38 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is shorter than >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # parse vm options and image >>>>>>> for arg in "$@" >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> if [[ $arg == -* ]]; >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" >>>>>>> shift >>>>>>> else >>>>>>> break >>>>>>> fi >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> IMAGE=$1 >>>>>>> shift >>>>>>> # if no image has been provided use the installed one >>>>>>> if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image >>>>>>> fi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks for the effort, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now you can use: >>>>>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>>>> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>>>>>>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

April 11, 2013

[Pharo-project] Is renamePackage in Nautilus correct ?

by Goubier Thierry

Hi, I'm trying to rename packages, so I'm adding the command to AltBrowser using the Nautilus renamePackage as the way to do it. But looking at the code, I wonder : does this really work ? If I select a subcategory of my Monticello package, it looks like it will work (call RPackageOrganizer>>renamePackage:in:). But, if I select my Monticello package itself (the one with the curly M ico) then it seems it will rename just the RPackage and not much else (i.e. for example, if I rename AST-Core, AST-Core-Matching, AST-Core-Nodes, etc... will stay unchanged). Did I got that right ? Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

by Camillo Bruni

Norbert, I deprecated now the old scripts and I had a look at your script proposal and I extended it a bit: https://gist.github.com/dh83/5363000 what do you think? On 2013-04-02, at 12:02, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes I just haven't fully announced it yet ;) since I only programmed them > this saturday and was waiting for the pharo conf ;) > > But I will deprecate it with a warning message in it tomorrow or so. > And then people should rename their scripts. > > > On 2013-04-02, at 11:58, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> Well, I would say a >> >> mv vm-ui.sh pharo-ui >> >> would do a good job to get out of deprecation. Honestly if the scripts are deprecated just take them out of the download. I don't know why to leave them there because it is confusing. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 02.04.2013 um 11:24 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> the vm-ui.sh script is deprecated (yep, Camillo already deprecated something, even if it is brand new). >>> >>> now the valid scripts are >>> >>> "pharo" and "pharo-ui" >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >>>> Another attempt. >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> >>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>>> >>>>> Ah, rats, didn't think it through. It only works for commandline switches that do not have an argument itself. Sad and sorry! >>>>> >>>>> Norbert >>>>> >>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 10:38 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>>>> >>>>>> Very good Cami. I have two remarks. If it should be short I think that >>>>>> >>>>>> curl -sL get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>> >>>>>> is shorter than >>>>>> >>>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>> >>>>>> If I see it correct the script is used for CI but as there is a get.pharo.org host I assume it is supposed to be an easy entry point for all kind of users, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is true I find it somewhat strange to have a download-all-in-one-and-cozy-script that downloads everything needed but to start it I have still to provide the image myself to the shell scripts. So I added this to the script >>>>>> >>>>>> # parse vm options and image >>>>>> for arg in "$@" >>>>>> do >>>>>> if [[ $arg == -* ]]; >>>>>> then >>>>>> VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS $arg" >>>>>> shift >>>>>> else >>>>>> break >>>>>> fi >>>>>> done >>>>>> IMAGE=$1 >>>>>> shift >>>>>> # if no image has been provided use the installed one >>>>>> if [ -z "$IMAGE" ]; >>>>>> then >>>>>> IMAGE=$DIR/Pharo.image >>>>>> fi >>>>>> >>>>>> which uses the downloaded image in case nothing has been specified on the commandline. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you like it. Usually I would extract the same portion of both scripts to an extra file but then there is the trade-off to have one more file in the download. I'll attach a version of vm-ui.sh for you to try. If you need help I'm happy to chime in for this. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for the effort, >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>> >>>>>> <vm-ui.sh> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 02.04.2013 um 09:15 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> we're back up, shinier than ever ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> check http://get.pharo.org ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now you can use: >>>>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org | bash >>>>>>> for the current stable release of Pharo and the PharoVM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:52, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts >>>>>>>>> obviously something went horribly wrong there, sorry guys.. working on it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

April 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, I use Versionner everyday. I do not commit without it actually. So far, I use Pharo 1.4 to do all my commit, sadly... Alexandre On Apr 11, 2013, at 7:32 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Well, it for sure looks interesting. Once one has the understanding about configurations. Which will lead to look for something like that tool. > > Not sure I am mastering configuration basics at the moment... So, that's why I guess. > > Phil > > > 2013/4/11 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> > Huh, I find it strange that nobody cares. Does anybody use Versionner? > > Norbert > > > Am 09.04.2013 um 11:31 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > >> Yesterday I tried again to use Versionner in 2.0 but did have much success. So I tried myself (because I think Versionner is important) and could final generate a new version of my project using versionner. >> >> Following things I noticed (I'm writing this because I'm not sure which issue to open for what package. I'm just want opinions and after that I can open/upload whatever): >> >> I loaded Versionner from Metacello (taken from [1]) >> >> Gofer new >> url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Versionner'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfVersionner'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVersionner) perform: #load >> >> monticello issues >> ============= >> >> While updating the rest of the packages to the newest I saw that >> >> Versionner-Core-Model-ChristopheDemarey.19 >> >> has an older ancestor for fixing something for pharo 1.4. The package >> >> Versionner-Core-Model-ChristopheDemarey.20 >> >> merged the packages back to HEAD but reverted some things like SystemAnnouncer back to SystemChangeNotifier. So I'm using >> >> Versionner-Core-Model-ChristopheDemarey.18 >> and >> Versionner-Core-Commands-ChristopheDemarey.17 >> >> as older packages. Any other package is the newest in the repository. >> >> metacello toolbox issues >> ================== >> >> I don't know much about metacello toolbox but the separation of files into ConfigurationOf and Baseline seems to have potential for confusion. There is a notion of a basename so it can build ConfigurationOfMyProject as well as BaselineOfMyProject (MyProject being the basename). But in the MetacelloToolbox in the pharo2.0 repository it does not seem right. I had to change the code to use (MBToolbox baseNameOf: â¦) at a few places. I took orientation from the message signature. If a method expects a configurationBaseName and the sender used the configuration class I changed it. I'll attach the mcz for now to this mail until it is clear what to do. >> >> versionner issues >> ============= >> >> At one place I added a metacello toolbox name conversion because it made sense to make it there. The other thing I had to fix is a method notification that takes the wrong entity from an announcement. Both packages attached as I don't have commit rights and don't know where the issue tracker for versionner is if there is any) >> >> I would be glad if any of you guys that know about that stuff could drop me a note if this is ok or where I've gone wrong. >> >> thanks, >> >> Norbert >> >> >> [1] http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~jsandova/versionner/ >> >> <Metacello-ToolBox-NorbertHartl.136.mcz> >> <Versionner-Core-Commands-NorbertHartl.18.mcz> >> <Versionner-Core-Model-NorbertHartl.19.mcz> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 11, 2013