March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Some love to NBOpenGL (making it up-to-date with pharo 2.0)

by Camillo Bruni

Do not forget to create a jenkins job on https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ On 2013-03-14, at 16:58, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > cool :) > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, there >> >> since Pharo 2.0 is out (well almost ;) ) , it is time to update >> configuration of stuff .. >> today the prize goes to NBOpenGL project (Athens tomorrow).. >> >> I did not much, just boring things: >> >> - migrated all packages on smalltalkhub >> (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/NBOpenGL) from >> squeaksource. >> - updated configuration(s). I removed explicit dependency from >> NativeBoost, since it is in 2.0 by default. >> - rescued a legacy TrueType package, which was thrown out of base >> image, so i took a freedom to put it in NBOpenGL repository, >> because it seems only my demo code does something with it :) >> >> If you wanna try if it works, do: >> >> 1. >> Gofer it >> smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL'; >> load. > > easier: > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; > configurationOf: 'NBOpenGL'; > load. > > :) > >> >> 2. >> (ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL project version: '2.0') load >> >> >> 2.1. If VM crashes when doing step 2. Download the stable one from >> [http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/] >> and repeat step 2. (Many many thanks to Esteban who was persistent >> enough ditching this problem finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >> 2.2. if VM still crashes, you know who to blame ;) > > not blame, but report :) > I cannot preview all the possible issues, you know... I just fixed all the crashes that I have reported :P > > Esteban > >> >> 3. >> GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld >> >> (if it works you shall see some strange Cyrillic (no, it is not >> Klingon) letters zooming in and out again in a loop :) >> >> >> 4. If you on windows or linux, report problems. Because i did not >> tried it there. ;) >> But for me it was a great relief to see it working at least on my Mac >> after many perturbations with 2.0 and NativeBoost over past half-year. >> >> P.S. ah.. yeah.. if you try to run demo on very old crappy hardware >> with very old opengl drivers, don't blame anyone that it doesn't >> works, except yourself :) As far as i remember demo requires at least >> OpenGL 2.0 support. But this is just a demo, if it doesn't works, it >> doesn't immediately means that you cannot use nativeboost opengl >> bindings in your own project and make things work properly for older >> versions of opengl. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

OK, I will give it a shake down later tonight ! On 14 Mar 2013, at 17:28, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes, it has been promoted... you don't need to use Latest to test the new VM :) > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> >> On 14 Mar 2013, at 14:05, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> yep... I will promote the vm I'm testing as "stable" (even if it need still some tweaks, I think). >>> so we can see :) >> >> Has this already been done ? >> >> What do I have to do to get this latest shiny piece of software ? >> >> Is >> >> curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVM.sh | bash >> >> enough or does it have to be >> >> curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVMLatest.sh | bash >> >> ? >> >> Sven > >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes, it has been promoted... you don't need to use Latest to test the new VM :) On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 14:05, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> yep... I will promote the vm I'm testing as "stable" (even if it need still some tweaks, I think). >> so we can see :) > > Has this already been done ? > > What do I have to do to get this latest shiny piece of software ? > > Is > > curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVM.sh | bash > > enough or does it have to be > > curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVMLatest.sh | bash > > ? > > Sven

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 14 Mar 2013, at 14:05, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yep... I will promote the vm I'm testing as "stable" (even if it need still some tweaks, I think). > so we can see :) Has this already been done ? What do I have to do to get this latest shiny piece of software ? Is curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVM.sh | bash enough or does it have to be curl -L http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharoVMLatest.sh | bash ? Sven

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:53, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > Sven > > >> - update Zinc documentation before PharoConf > > It would be good if you could edit the pier.txt so that we can see if you handle it. > I have a list of remarks still pending that I always wanted to add to your documents. > > > Stef OK, I'll ask for the file and your comments when I actually start.

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:30, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeah... we argentinians are closer to heaven today (and farther from justice, but well...) :D Yeah, after infiltrating in the Smalltalk / Pharo community, the Argentinians are taking over the world. Is that good or bad ? ;-) > On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)10pines.com> wrote: > >> maybe not saint but pope :-) >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Miracle. >> >> (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) >> >> Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> HernÃ¡n Wilkinson >> Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching >> Phone: +54 - 011 - 6091 - 3125 >> Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 >> email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com >> site: http://www.10Pines.com >> Address: Alem 693, Floor 5 B, Buenos Aires, Argentina >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Some love to NBOpenGL (making it up-to-date with pharo 2.0)

by Esteban Lorenzano

cool :) On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, there > > since Pharo 2.0 is out (well almost ;) ) , it is time to update > configuration of stuff .. > today the prize goes to NBOpenGL project (Athens tomorrow).. > > I did not much, just boring things: > > - migrated all packages on smalltalkhub > (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/NBOpenGL) from > squeaksource. > - updated configuration(s). I removed explicit dependency from > NativeBoost, since it is in 2.0 by default. > - rescued a legacy TrueType package, which was thrown out of base > image, so i took a freedom to put it in NBOpenGL repository, > because it seems only my demo code does something with it :) > > If you wanna try if it works, do: > > 1. > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL'; > load. easier: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; configurationOf: 'NBOpenGL'; load. :) > > 2. > (ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL project version: '2.0') load > > > 2.1. If VM crashes when doing step 2. Download the stable one from > [http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/] > and repeat step 2. (Many many thanks to Esteban who was persistent > enough ditching this problem finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) > 2.2. if VM still crashes, you know who to blame ;) not blame, but report :) I cannot preview all the possible issues, you know... I just fixed all the crashes that I have reported :P Esteban > > 3. > GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld > > (if it works you shall see some strange Cyrillic (no, it is not > Klingon) letters zooming in and out again in a loop :) > > > 4. If you on windows or linux, report problems. Because i did not > tried it there. ;) > But for me it was a great relief to see it working at least on my Mac > after many perturbations with 2.0 and NativeBoost over past half-year. > > P.S. ah.. yeah.. if you try to run demo on very old crappy hardware > with very old opengl drivers, don't blame anyone that it doesn't > works, except yourself :) As far as i remember demo requires at least > OpenGL 2.0 support. But this is just a demo, if it doesn't works, it > doesn't immediately means that you cannot use nativeboost opengl > bindings in your own project and make things work properly for older > versions of opengl. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger-driven development (was Re: WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24)

by Frank Shearar

Hi Stephane, That's a great idea. I need to get some other stuff done first, but it's only a small amount of code. frank On 14 March 2013 15:49, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi Frank > Since you are present in the Pharo mailing-list, may be you want to send the > code to get it > included into pharo, please do it? > > (Squeak trunk now lets you create methods not just on an MNU but also > where people have things like "self subclassResponsibility", "self > notYetImplemented" or "self shouldBeImplemented" flags such that you > can debug-edit-and-continue.) > > > Stef >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel 1.8 -> 1.9 migration (was: Re: please test 2.0)

by Yanni Chiu

I concluded that trying to run Fuel-1.8 in Pharo-2.0 was a pointless exercise. I needed to migrate to 1.8.x or 1.9. So I decided to migrate to 1.9 in my current Pharo-1.4 based image. This time, I've captured the migration in classes, which was not too hard (last migration I just ran code in workspaces). I tried to write a test case for the migration, but this failed strangely. When I run: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFuel) project version: '1.9') load: 'Core' from a workspace it works. But when it is run through a TestCase, it fails to load the newer version on top of the older version, and it fails silently - I think TestCase, Metacello, Gofer or Monticello is swallowing an exception. I tried having the test case return FLMaterializer via "Smalltalk at: #FLMaterializer" (and same for FLSerializer), but it made no difference. The test case was eventually supposed to use #forkHeadlessSqueakAndDo: to run, but I've given up on the test for now. The other oddity I noted was that FLMaterializer/FLSerializer>>currentVersion answers integers like: 18, 181, 182, 19. So, if there are ever over 100 format versions of Fuel, then there will be some confusion. This came up when I briefly considered altering the version check to allow 1.8.2 to load a 1.8 version Fuel file. On 14/03/13 10:56 AM, Martin Dias wrote: > Hi Yanni, > > Could you migrate all your objects to the new format? > > Best regards, > Martin > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Yanni Chiu <yanni-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA(a)public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> >> On 01/03/13 1:54 PM, Martin Dias wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry but AFAIK you won't be able to materialize in 1.8.x the files >>> you serialized with 1.8. Maybe Max has some trick to do it? >> >> >> I got an exception: >> >> FLBadVersion: Materialization error. Unexpected stream version 18 where >> it should be 182. >> >> I disabled the version check, and things loaded fine. But, I've yet to find >> a saved file with a Date or DateAndTime instance.

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

by stephane ducasse

Sven > - update Zinc documentation before PharoConf It would be good if you could edit the pier.txt so that we can see if you handle it. I have a list of remarks still pending that I always wanted to add to your documents. Stef

March 14, 2013