March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Hacker news...

by phil＠highoctane.be

Oh, cool! 2013/3/19 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > hi tocayo, > > yep, I'm already addressing some of the good observations this guy made. In particular, I'm a long time enemy of the one-click images, so I'm killing them (and replacing it for more suitable platform specific builds). > > Cheers, > Esteban > > ps: I lost my HN password, so I cannot reply directly... :P > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:09 PM, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The good thing about HN or Reddit or any other "horizontal propagation" >> medium, is that your message reachs people that doesn't have anything to do >> with Smalltalk as it is today (comeback?) or as it was before (great). >> >> It is a good way to get feedback from real users, that are prospects who >> might become the next generation of Pharo developers. >> >> This particular comment let me hanging though: >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5395496 >> >> We should pay special attention to those feedbacks, otherwise we'll be >> always "preaching to the choir". >> >> Bottom line: We should try to get more feedback from outsiders. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Esteban. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hacker-news-tp4677147p4677294.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hacker news...

by phil＠highoctane.be

Yes, those comments are very useful. We could add those in the fogbugz tracker under a heading "communication" or something like that. I am volunteering for the encoding. Phil 2013/3/19 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>: > The good thing about HN or Reddit or any other "horizontal propagation" > medium, is that your message reachs people that doesn't have anything to do > with Smalltalk as it is today (comeback?) or as it was before (great). > > It is a good way to get feedback from real users, that are prospects who > might become the next generation of Pharo developers. > > This particular comment let me hanging though: > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5395496 > > We should pay special attention to those feedbacks, otherwise we'll be > always "preaching to the choir". > > Bottom line: We should try to get more feedback from outsiders. > > > Regards, > > Esteban. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hacker-news-tp4677147p4677294.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hacker news...

by Esteban Lorenzano

hi tocayo, yep, I'm already addressing some of the good observations this guy made. In particular, I'm a long time enemy of the one-click images, so I'm killing them (and replacing it for more suitable platform specific builds). Cheers, Esteban ps: I lost my HN password, so I cannot reply directly... :P On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:09 PM, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The good thing about HN or Reddit or any other "horizontal propagation" > medium, is that your message reachs people that doesn't have anything to do > with Smalltalk as it is today (comeback?) or as it was before (great). > > It is a good way to get feedback from real users, that are prospects who > might become the next generation of Pharo developers. > > This particular comment let me hanging though: > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5395496 > > We should pay special attention to those feedbacks, otherwise we'll be > always "preaching to the choir". > > Bottom line: We should try to get more feedback from outsiders. > > > Regards, > > Esteban. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hacker-news-tp4677147p4677294.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30003

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As far as I know, these jobs are integration related. > Yes, and one of them runs all tests, one of them pushed the result to files.pharo.org. What else is wanted? > Ben > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Camille Teruel <camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 19 mars 2013, at 12:54, Benjamin wrote: >> >>> So where is the Pharo3.0 jenkins job ? :) >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/3.0/ ? >> >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> infrastructure is working :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does it make sense to make updates when we have no working infrastructure? :-) >>>>> >>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> 30003 >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> 10046 Spec new version >>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10046 >>>>>> >>>>>> Diff information: >>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo30/diff/Spec-Layout-EstebanLorenzano… >>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo30/diff/Spec-Core-EstebanLorenzano.90 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 released!

by Esteban Lorenzano

also, I proposed a GSOC project to merge smalltalkhub with a continuous integration service, something like travis and github. ofc, the project should have to be accepted :P Esteban On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-03-19, at 10:58, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > >> Great to see Pharo 2.0 released. >> >> Too bad I cannot make it to the Pharo/Moose days, but Diego will >> show some of the things we have been working on. >> >> I've been thinking about what would help Pharo development the most. >> I think making sure that everyone can get up-and-running with his >> own ci-server would help a lot. > > Just for the record, if you don't need a private CI server, we provide > one for the community: ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30003

by Benjamin

On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> cool, sorry :-) >> > > What is missing: > > -> The bug tracker UI that allows to link to and view bugs without being logged in > (and request a login via the web interface) > -> Fugbugz needs some more configuration (e.g. issue states) > -> Monkey needs to be ported to use fugbugz We should address these points this friday Ben > But it looks already quite good. > > Marcus > > >

March 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] Call for PhD candidates in the Software Composition Group, U Bern

by Oscar Nierstrasz ＠ gmail

Applications are invited for PhD candidates at the Software Composition Group, University of Bern, Switzerland. The Software Composition Group carries out research in software analysis and programming language design and implementation, with a view to enabling software evolution. The SCG is led by Prof. Oscar Nierstrasz and is part of the Institute of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics (IAM) at the University of Berne. Details about current and ongoing research can be found here: http://scg.unibe.ch/research/ The candidate must have a MSc in Computer Science (equivalent to a Swiss MSc), should demonstrate strong programming skills, and have research interests in several of the following areas: - software evolution - program understanding - software modeling - model-driven engineering - reverse engineering - domain specific languages - dynamic analysis - integrated development environments - programming language design - virtual machine technology To apply, please send an email including your CV, with references, to Prof. Oscar Nierstrasz (oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch) by April 15, 2013. Oscar Nierstrasz --- Prof. Dr. O. Nierstrasz -- oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch Software Composition Group -- http://scg.unibe.ch/oscar University of Bern -- Tel/Fax +41 31 631.4618/3355

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Hacker news...

by Esteban A. Maringolo

The good thing about HN or Reddit or any other "horizontal propagation" medium, is that your message reachs people that doesn't have anything to do with Smalltalk as it is today (comeback?) or as it was before (great). It is a good way to get feedback from real users, that are prospects who might become the next generation of Pharo developers. This particular comment let me hanging though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5395496 We should pay special attention to those feedbacks, otherwise we'll be always "preaching to the choir". Bottom line: We should try to get more feedback from outsiders. Regards, Esteban. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hacker-news-tp4677147p4677294.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 released!

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-03-19, at 10:58, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Great to see Pharo 2.0 released. > > Too bad I cannot make it to the Pharo/Moose days, but Diego will > show some of the things we have been working on. > > I've been thinking about what would help Pharo development the most. > I think making sure that everyone can get up-and-running with his > own ci-server would help a lot. Just for the record, if you don't need a private CI server, we provide one for the community: ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] some little aif files

by stephane ducasse

excellent I will have a look :) On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I don't have any idea about how Sound library works. I did the following: > > 1) In Squeak 4.3 one click: > > FLSerializer serialize: SampledSound soundLibrary toFileNamed: 'soundLibrary.fuel'. > > 2) In Pharo 2.0: > > Gofer it > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > > SampledSound assimilateSoundsFrom: (FLMaterializer materializeFromFileNamed: 'soundLibrary.fuel'). > > SampledSound soundNames. "---> #('click' 'laugh' 'silence' 'chirp' 'splash' 'scratch' 'coyote' 'chomp' 'clink' 'scritch' 'meow' 'peaks' 'horn' 'camera' 'croak' 'warble' 'motor' 'scrape')." > > SampledSound soundNames do: [ :each | > SampledSound playSoundNamed: each ]. > > > ---> so it seemed to work, but I can't hear anything. I attach the fuel file, so to reproduce you can just put it in the image directory and evaluate my code above. > > Best, > MartÃn > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > Simple > > they are in the SoundLibrary class variable of SampledSound > > Stef > > On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > There are creative commons sounds here: > > http://soundbible.com/free-sound-effects-3.html > > > > but they should be converted to aiff > > > > > > In other hand, seems like a good way of trying if Fuel can transfer > > objects from Squeak to Pharo. How can I find the instances in squeak, > > to try? > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi guys > >> > >> the sound system requires to have some sounds loaded in the sound library. > >> Befre it was croak, swirlâ¦. > >> Now since the files used to create the objects are probably gone from age, I would like to find some little > >> aif files that we can load in the system. > >> does anybody have an idea of where I can find such aif free files? > >> > >> I could serialize the objects from the squeak image but I do not know if this is a good idea. > >> > >> Stef > > > > > > <soundLibrary.fuel>

March 19, 2013