March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 released!

by Stephan Eggermont

Camillo wrote: >On 2013-03-19, at 10:58, Stephan Eggermont <stephan at stack.nl >> I've been thinking about what would help Pharo development the most. >> I think making sure that everyone can get up-and-running with his >> own ci-server would help a lot. > >Just for the record, if you don't need a private CI server, we provide >one for the community: ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ That is really nice, and I'm looking forward to using it for deltawerken, storyboard etc. We have some selenium tests for those (Parasol)... (an account would be great) There are many reasons to also want to have CI locally, from private projects to working in the train to depending on software not installed on the community server to having the fastest feedback cycle possible. Stephan

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Camillo Bruni

I don't know what your plans are, but I hope you will be using the latest PharoVM? On 2013-03-19, at 18:57, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > oops :) I'll check that tomorrow. > > Nico > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Thanks. >> I tried to register and got an exception: >> >> ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?) >> >> #Luc >> >> >> 2013/3/19 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> >> nice!! thanks a lot guys! >> >> >> On 2013-03-19, at 18:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! >>>> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nico >>> >>> Beautiful, you guys rock ! >>> >>> Sven >> >> >> > > -- > Nicolas Petton > http://www.nicolas-petton.fr >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Nicolas Petton

oops :) I'll check that tomorrow. Nico On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks. > I tried to register and got an exception: > > ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?) > > #Luc > > > 2013/3/19 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > nice!! thanks a lot guys! > > > On 2013-03-19, at 18:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! > >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nico > > > > Beautiful, you guys rock ! > > > > Sven > > > -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Benjamin

We probably deployed the wrong VM :S We will fix this asap, sorry Ben On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks. > I tried to register and got an exception: > > ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?) > > #Luc > > > 2013/3/19 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > nice!! thanks a lot guys! > > > On 2013-03-19, at 18:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! > >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nico > > > > Beautiful, you guys rock ! > > > > Sven > > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] semi-modal sequences in keymappings [WAS] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-18 until: 2013-03-31

by Guillermo Polito

Ups, it should have been InputEventFetcher>>signalEvent: eventBuffer ... ... .. . On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> On 18 March 2013 21:45, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> - Keymappings 101 tuto in blog (for 2.0, cause in 3.0 the api coould >>> change a bit :) >>> >> >> I just read your postâ¦ question: is it possible to define semi-modal >> sequences? >> > > Not easy I think... The problem is that VM does not raise events for every > key pressed.. And those that does not work are for example ctrl, cmd, > shift... Try modifying the following method: > > signalEvent: eventBuffer > "Signal the event buffer to all registered event handlers. > Handlers need make sure to copy the buffer or extract the data otherwise, > as the buffer will be reused." > --> Transcript show: eventBuffer asString;cr. > self eventHandlers do: [:handler | > handler handleEvent: eventBuffer] > > Add the remarked line, open a transcript and press ctrl alone. > > It is impossible to know right now if ctrl is being pressed or not by > itself :(. > > >> Let me explain: modes are (hidden) states in the system that influence >> how it interprets inputs. Typical example is capslock: depending on its >> state, pressing the A key will give you a or A. >> >> Having too many or unclear modes is bad, because you have to track their >> state in your mind, or take a specific action to know which mode you're in. >> In contrast, a semi-mode is when you need continuous physical action to >> maintain it; typical example is the modifier keys like shift alt ctrlâ¦ >> Semi-modes are a much better compromise (ideally there would be no modes >> anywhere, but that's not very realistic in practice). >> >> To get back to my point, a semi-modal sequence would be: >> >> ($a asShortcut, $b asShortcut) ctrl "[press ctrl] a b [release ctrl]" >> >> as opposed to: >> $a asShortcut ctrl, $b asShortcut ctrl "maybe release ctrl in the middle" >> >> where if you press ctrl-a and get interrupted, you're going to be >> confused when ctrl-b does not do what it's supposed to do as a standalone >> shortcutâ¦ if you're an emacs user, think ctrl-G, if you're a vim user, >> think spurious i's in your filesâ¦ >> > >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Luc Fabresse

Thanks. I tried to register and got an exception: ZdcPluginMissing: SSL/TLS plugin initailization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries missing ?) #Luc 2013/3/19 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > nice!! thanks a lot guys! > > > On 2013-03-19, at 18:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! > >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register > there to get access to Fogbugz. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nico > > > > Beautiful, you guys rock ! > > > > Sven > > >

March 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] semi-modal sequences in keymappings [WAS] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-18 until: 2013-03-31

by Guillermo Polito

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On 18 March 2013 21:45, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> - Keymappings 101 tuto in blog (for 2.0, cause in 3.0 the api coould >> change a bit :) >> > > I just read your postâ¦ question: is it possible to define semi-modal > sequences? > Not easy I think... The problem is that VM does not raise events for every key pressed.. And those that does not work are for example ctrl, cmd, shift... Try modifying the following method: signalEvent: eventBuffer "Signal the event buffer to all registered event handlers. Handlers need make sure to copy the buffer or extract the data otherwise, as the buffer will be reused." --> Transcript show: eventBuffer asString;cr. self eventHandlers do: [:handler | handler handleEvent: eventBuffer] Add the remarked line, open a transcript and press ctrl alone. It is impossible to know right now if ctrl is being pressed or not by itself :(. > Let me explain: modes are (hidden) states in the system that influence how > it interprets inputs. Typical example is capslock: depending on its state, > pressing the A key will give you a or A. > > Having too many or unclear modes is bad, because you have to track their > state in your mind, or take a specific action to know which mode you're in. > In contrast, a semi-mode is when you need continuous physical action to > maintain it; typical example is the modifier keys like shift alt ctrlâ¦ > Semi-modes are a much better compromise (ideally there would be no modes > anywhere, but that's not very realistic in practice). > > To get back to my point, a semi-modal sequence would be: > > ($a asShortcut, $b asShortcut) ctrl "[press ctrl] a b [release ctrl]" > > as opposed to: > $a asShortcut ctrl, $b asShortcut ctrl "maybe release ctrl in the middle" > > where if you press ctrl-a and get interrupted, you're going to be confused > when ctrl-b does not do what it's supposed to do as a standalone shortcutâ¦ > if you're an emacs user, think ctrl-G, if you're a vim user, think spurious > i's in your filesâ¦ > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >

March 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] alpha 3.0 page created

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I created the webpage for Pharo3.0 alpha http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/alpha-3-0 Esteban

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Camillo Bruni

nice!! thanks a lot guys! On 2013-03-19, at 18:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. >> >> Cheers, >> Nico > > Beautiful, you guys rock ! > > Sven

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 19 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! > You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. > > Cheers, > Nico Beautiful, you guys rock ! Sven

March 19, 2013