March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Nicolas Petton

I'll update it tomorrow with come explanations. About the picture, the monkey image was IMO all the fun in this app :) nico On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:14 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil that the monkey picture is a bit strong -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Nicolas Cellier

But more annoying, how can we search or filter, all issues containing 'someString' or browse closed issues ? When the registering page will work, I think it'll be the essential added value, don't ask too much to a monkey. Nicolas 2013/3/19 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com>: > One thing is a bit upsetting, Penelope does not remember about our > recent navigation, I wonder how she will ever remember about Ulysse. > > Nicolas > > 2013/3/19 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>: >> ben >> >> may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil >> that the monkey picture is a bit strong >> >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> FogBugz does not provide (yet) a way for non logged on user to see the open >> entries (why google allowed it) >> So we tackled this issue with Penelope. >> >> So basically, Penelope does two things: >> - listing open entries sorted by projects >> - provide a way to create a fogbugz account >> >> Hope it's more clear now :) >> Ben >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Could someone explain what Penelope is and why we need it? >> We need it now (fogbugz) but we didn't need it before (google code)? >> What does it do? >> Doesn't fogbugz provide what penelope does? from the website I just see the >> items and I can filter by groups...isn't that provided by fogbugz? >> >> thanks, >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! >>> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there >>> to get access to Fogbugz. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nico >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >>

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Nicolas Cellier

One thing is a bit upsetting, Penelope does not remember about our recent navigation, I wonder how she will ever remember about Ulysse. Nicolas 2013/3/19 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>: > ben > > may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil > that the monkey picture is a bit strong > > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > FogBugz does not provide (yet) a way for non logged on user to see the open > entries (why google allowed it) > So we tackled this issue with Penelope. > > So basically, Penelope does two things: > - listing open entries sorted by projects > - provide a way to create a fogbugz account > > Hope it's more clear now :) > Ben > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Could someone explain what Penelope is and why we need it? > We need it now (fogbugz) but we didn't need it before (google code)? > What does it do? > Doesn't fogbugz provide what penelope does? from the website I just see the > items and I can filter by groups...isn't that provided by fogbugz? > > thanks, > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there >> to get access to Fogbugz. >> >> Cheers, >> Nico > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by stephane ducasse

ben may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil that the monkey picture is a bit strong On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > FogBugz does not provide (yet) a way for non logged on user to see the open entries (why google allowed it) > So we tackled this issue with Penelope. > > So basically, Penelope does two things: > - listing open entries sorted by projects > - provide a way to create a fogbugz account > > Hope it's more clear now :) > Ben > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Could someone explain what Penelope is and why we need it? >> We need it now (fogbugz) but we didn't need it before (google code)? >> What does it do? >> Doesn't fogbugz provide what penelope does? from the website I just see the items and I can filter by groups...isn't that provided by fogbugz? >> >> thanks, >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! >> You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. >> >> Cheers, >> Nico >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] one-click is dead, now we have platform specific builds

by stephane ducasse

thanks esteban this is indeed a real progress On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > tbh, one-click was just cool for mac users... windows and linux users (specially newcomers) where having bad reaction with the structure that the one-click enforces. > > The new scripts produces structures that can fit better into the platforms where they will run. > > You can check them here: http://files.pharo.org/platform/ > > of course, a lot of improvements are possible, this is just the first step :) > > Esteban

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] how to know plugins directory ?

by jannik.laval

Thank you Stef, Now, I want to know the repository of the plugins. Soemthing like "File @ User/Jannik/Desktop/Pharo/plugins" Jannik On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:06 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > Jannik > > to know if the plugin is found by the VM you should do > SmalltalkImage current listBuiltinModules > > SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules > > Stef > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:40 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Is there a way to obtain the plugins directory in a pharo image. >> Something like vmDirectory or imageDirectory but for plugins directory ? >> >> My case is that in MacOS the plugins are in a subdirectory inside the directory of the vm, but in windows and linux it is not the same. >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik > >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoSound does not have the same behavior in a one-click

by jannik.laval

Here is my VM: === 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 ' === Here the one click image: === 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 ' === Seems to be the same. In the plugins repository, it seems that there is the same files. Jannik On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:04 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > may be a plugin is not found. > > "Could you print the VM version for both images ?" > > Smalltalk vm version or something like that > > Stef > > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:35 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I tried with the latest version available on Pharo website :) >> >> Jannik >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I would say the Vm â¦ >>> >>> Could you print the VM version for both images ? >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:27 PM, "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I loaded PharoSound in a Pharo 2.0 image and try the code : >>>> SimpleMIDIPort examplePlayNoteNamedVelocityOnChannel >>>> >>>> It works fine. >>>> Now, try the same with a Pharo one-click, it does not work. >>>> A primitive fail: >>>> #primMIDIOpenPort:readSemaIndex:interfaceClockRate: >>>> >>>> What is different between the two versions ? >>>> >>>> Jannik >>>> >>> >> >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] how to know plugins directory ?

by stephane ducasse

Jannik to know if the plugin is found by the VM you should do SmalltalkImage current listBuiltinModules SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules Stef On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:40 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to obtain the plugins directory in a pharo image. > Something like vmDirectory or imageDirectory but for plugins directory ? > > My case is that in MacOS the plugins are in a subdirectory inside the directory of the vm, but in windows and linux it is not the same. > > Cheers, > Jannik

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoSound does not have the same behavior in a one-click

by stephane ducasse

may be a plugin is not found. "Could you print the VM version for both images ?" Smalltalk vm version or something like that Stef On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:35 PM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I tried with the latest version available on Pharo website :) > > Jannik > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would say the Vm â¦ >> >> Could you print the VM version for both images ? >> >> Ben >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:27 PM, "jannik.laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I loaded PharoSound in a Pharo 2.0 image and try the code : >>> SimpleMIDIPort examplePlayNoteNamedVelocityOnChannel >>> >>> It works fine. >>> Now, try the same with a Pharo one-click, it does not work. >>> A primitive fail: >>> #primMIDIOpenPort:readSemaIndex:interfaceClockRate: >>> >>> What is different between the two versions ? >>> >>> Jannik >>> >> >

March 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

by Benjamin

FogBugz does not provide (yet) a way for non logged on user to see the open entries (why google allowed it) So we tackled this issue with Penelope. So basically, Penelope does two things: - listing open entries sorted by projects - provide a way to create a fogbugz account Hope it's more clear now :) Ben On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Could someone explain what Penelope is and why we need it? > We need it now (fogbugz) but we didn't need it before (google code)? > What does it do? > Doesn't fogbugz provide what penelope does? from the website I just see the items and I can filter by groups...isn't that provided by fogbugz? > > thanks, > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Ben and I finally put the Penelope monkey online! > You can access to all issues at http://bugs.pharo.org and register there to get access to Fogbugz. > > Cheers, > Nico > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

March 19, 2013