March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by Benjamin

We tried that we Jannik, but it was complicated :) But yes, I will try to put some effort here :) Ben On Mar 31, 2013, at 3:25 AM, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Inside pharo would be cool ;) > > --- > Jannik Laval > > Le 30 mars 2013 Ã 23:41, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Tools-Improvement/NautilusDocu… >> >> Ben >> >> On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? >>> >>> Is it possible to do it in help? >>> >>> uko >>> >>> >>> On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The first one means the package is empty >>>> >>>> the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>

March 31, 2013

[Pharo-project] Owner vs user in SmalltalkHub

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I have spotted some inconsistencies. Look at the following screenshot: According to the Monticello registration code, abergel is a user. But the Gofer scripts says that ObjectProfile is a smalltalkhubUser. Should not ObjectProfile be called the owner? When I click on Contributors, abergel is not listed (and abergel has right to write). Easy to get lost. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Ben! As the others said, something like a tooltip would be great. Alexandre On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Tools-Improvement/NautilusDocu… > > Ben > > On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? >> >> Is it possible to do it in help? >> >> uko >> >> >> On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The first one means the package is empty >>> >>> the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] a glimpse at new cool text editor made by alain P ; )

by Alexandre Bergel

beautiful! Alexandre On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:01 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks alain for this previea > and Synectique ( http://www.synectique.eu ) for the sponsoring of this effort. > > Stef > > > > <a RubTextSurface(902561792).png> -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] starting a debugger on a caught error

by Ben Coman

Thanks Phil. That is how I normally do things, but unless I'm missing something obvious, this is a bit more complicated. There are dozens of Morphs which each pass through that bit of code each World rendering cycle. A self haltOnce will invoke randomly in any one of these, not the one with the error I need to debug. I could put the self haltOnce inside the "do:[:err|..... ]" block, but then my original question remains. Actually I've made some progress as follows just wandering through a Explore on the Error... 1. In the inspector that comes up, I open an explorer on self to get a scrolling pane interface. 2. Then I click through... handlerContext > receiver > outerContext which is a MethodContext for ESCanvas(Morph)>>fullDrawOn: This has a parameter '[aCanvas]' which is a FormCanvas and a 'receiver' which is a ESCanvas 3. I don't know how to refer '[aCanvas]' in the Explorer command pane, so I click on [aCanvas] and in its command pane I do 'Smalltalk at: #btcdebug put: self' 4. Back at (2.) I do... receiver setProperty: #errorOnDraw toValue: false. then using <Alt-Shift-D> I debug... receiver fullDrawOn: (Smalltalk at: #btcdebug) 5. Then once I worked out which line is the culprit, I debug that line separately to get a new context avoiding the error handling. cheers -ben btw, This is in Pharo 1.4 (Moose 4.7) phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > self haltOnce and enabling the halt once in the world menu should help. > > That's how I debug these things on my side. > > Phil > > > 2013/3/30 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> > > >> I am trying to debug a red-square-of-death for a Morph. I have found >> where Morph errors are handled in Morph>>fullDrawOn: >> where it goes... >> [ "stuff to draw morphs" ] on: Error do: [ :err | "stuff to draw red >> square" ]. >> >> In the do: block I'd like to open a debugger on the error. I see >> Exception has #debug, so I changed the block to... >> [ :err | err inspect. "stuff to draw red square" ] >> ...and then in the inspector I do (self debug) >> ...but this brings up the emergency evaluator. >> >> >> Below is a contrived example that exhibits the same behaviour. >> >> doIt on... >> (1 / 0. self inform: 'x'.) >> and of course a debugger appears. >> doIt on... >> [ 1 / 0. self inform: 'x' . ] on: Error do: [:err | err inspect ] >> ...and then (self debug) in the inspector you get the emergency evaluator. >> Anyone know how can I get the debugger to come up on 'err' in the last >> example? >> >> cheers -ben >> >> >> >> > >

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by Ben Coman

You should not always _rely_ on people reading the documentation :). Some will just download and leap right in. And even if they read the documentation, sometimes it takes a while for it to soak in. This is something users can discover for themselves if there was a tooltip. eg "Package A is empty" & "Package B is probably Monticello" - perhaps a fairly long timeout (new users move slower trying to understand things) Expert users can turn this off in their Startup Preferences - and/or if a small icon fits somewhere could toggle between tooltips on/off - which at a stretch might blink a few times the first time Nautilus is opened in a new image - to draw attention to learn how to turn of the tooltips. hover of it. cheers -ben Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? > > Is it possible to do it in help? > > uko > > > On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> The first one means the package is empty >> >> the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) >> >> Ben >> >> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] I stumbled upon

by Ben Coman

Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > FDominicus wrote > >> Well I also know that capitalized is a very "old" thing but the second >> name is more specific. So what about: >> withFistCharacterUpshifted .... as counterpart? >> > > I see what you mean... Apple's dictionary says that capitalized could mean > "all caps" or "first letter capitalized", so I guess it's ambiguous. > > For #withFirstCharacterDownshifted, isn't downshifted misleading? It only > works on letters. For instance, it doesn't change $: to $;. I would change > #withFirstCharacterDownshifted->#withFirstCharacterLowercase. > > And if I changed #capitalized, it would be to something like > #withFirstCharacterCapitalized (or uppercase). Also, the method you > extracted uses "letter" instead of "character". They should all be uniform. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/I-stumbled-upon-tp4678839p4679024.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > That could just be #withFirstCapitalized - you already know you are dealing with characters (?) ...

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by jannik.laval

Inside pharo would be cool ;) --- Jannik Laval Le 30 mars 2013 Ã 23:41, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Tools-Improvement/NautilusDocu… > > Ben > > On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? >> >> Is it possible to do it in help? >> >> uko >> >> >> On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The first one means the package is empty >>> >>> the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >

March 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by Benjamin

http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Tools-Improvement/NautilusDocu… Ben On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? > > Is it possible to do it in help? > > uko > > > On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The first one means the package is empty >> >> the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) >> >> Ben >> >> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >> >

March 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] icons in Nautilus?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Maybe we should write somewhere an explanation to all icons? Is it possible to do it in help? uko On 30 Ð±ÐµÑ. 2013, at 22:44, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The first one means the package is empty > > the second one that this package is a probably monticello package (no classes, only extensions) > > Ben > > On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I am just wondering what these icons means in Nautilus >> >> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.35 PM.png> ?? >> >> <Screen Shot 2013-03-30 at 12.08.42 PM.png> a method extension that is not properly packaged? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >

March 30, 2013