March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] customizing the CommandLineHandler to run Moose tests

by stephane ducasse

thanks! Stef On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to investigate it a bit more before announcing the problem. You can reproduce it on Mac, quite consistently: just run the attached script (you need to have wget installed), or do it manually: > > 1. download and unzip the latest Moose 4.8: > https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/Moose-latest-dev-4.8/lastSuccessfulBuild/arti… > 2. download and unzip the latest Pharo VM: > http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/mac/pharo-mac-latest.zip > 3. execute: > ./Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo ./Moose-latest-dev-4.8.image moosetest > > > The VM crashes, but there is no trace of the error. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:35 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Hi doru >> >> can you report precisely because now we cannot take any action? >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> p.s. The VM still crashes when running the tests though (at least on Mac) >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" > >

March 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] access to pharoextras repository

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > It would be good to have a discussion because all the packages I did do not follow this. > > what is the point to have a Tests group if the core and default already load them? That is not what I said :). We often get at least two groups in a configuration: - Core - the real code - Tests - the associated tests The question is what should be loaded by 'default' (this is what gets loaded when you do not specify anything in the dependency). By saying spec group: 'default' with: #('Core') we say that by default we do not load tests. If we do not specify any 'default', it will take by default everything, hence it will be equivalent in our case with spec group: 'default' with: #('Core' 'Tests'); I would want to favor the loading of tests by default. That is why, either we explicitly put the 'Tests' group in the 'default' group, or we do not specify a 'default' at all in trivial configurations like the ConfigurationOfXMLParser. Cheers, Doru >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone provide me with access to the PharoExtras team on STHub? >> >> I would need to modify a bit the ConfigurationOfXMLParser to load both Core and Tests by default. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "If you can't say why something is relevant, >> it probably isn't." >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

March 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] customizing the CommandLineHandler to run Moose tests

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I wanted to investigate it a bit more before announcing the problem. You can reproduce it on Mac, quite consistently: just run the attached script (you need to have wget installed), or do it manually: 1. download and unzip the latest Moose 4.8: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/Moose-latest-dev-4.8/lastSuccessfulBuild/arti… 2. download and unzip the latest Pharo VM: http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/mac/pharo-mac-latest.zip 3. execute: ./Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo ./Moose-latest-dev-4.8.image moosetest The VM crashes, but there is no trace of the error. Cheers, Doru On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:35 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi doru > > can you report precisely because now we cannot take any action? > > Stef > >> >> p.s. The VM still crashes when running the tests though (at least on Mac) > -- www.tudorgirba.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

March 9, 2013

[Pharo-project] is the latest Pharo VM beep enabled?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Beeper primitiveBeep but I do not get any sounds. primitiveBeep "Make a primitive beep. Not to be called directly. It is much better to use Beeper class>>beep or Beeper class>>beepPrimitive since this method bypasses the current registered playable entity and does not check SoundSettings class>>soundEnabled." <primitive: 140> self primitiveFailed Stef

March 9, 2013

[Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys I'm migrating the package Sound and MorphicSound to Pharo2.0 and SmalltalkHub. But I cannot make FMSound bass1 play produce a sound. Phil if i remember correctly you worked on that a couple of months ago. Can you summarize your findings? Stef

March 9, 2013

[Pharo-project] Deprecating MetaRepoForPharo13

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hello Pharoers I suggest that we deprecate MetaRepoForPharo13 on squeaksource. We can either turn it as private or at least readonly. What do you think? I like cleaningâ¦. Stef

March 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [squeak-dev] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Janko I sent some topics now I think that it would be better to edit directly the web site because else somebody will have to do it again. So if you need I can edit directly a form. Stef > Hi Stef, > > Post on the mailing list for each project idea by following this template: > > Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) > > Possible mentor: > > Possible second mentor: > > Description > > Technical Details > > Benefits to the Student > > Benefits to the Community > > Best regards > Janko > > Dne 09. 03. 2013 13:46, piÅ¡e stephane ducasse: >> Hi janko >> >> How do you want to proceed for the topics? >> I have a list of topics now where do we write them. >> >> - tool support rewrite rules >> - new generation debugger >> - new change model and session manager (with martin dias) >> - improving roassal (with alexandre bergel et vanessa pena) >> - improving eyesee (with alexandre bergel et vanessa pena) >> - support touch event >> - UIPainter (with esteban lorenzano) >> - New widgets >> >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Dear Smalltalkers, >>> >>> Time for your cool project ideas on this year Smalltalk GSoC! >>> >>> For now just express any idea you have here on the mailing list. Later >>> we will together develop it to be in complete format together with two >>> mentors needed. Deadline is end of Mart, so we have three weeks of time. >>> To see how fully developed ideas look like please look at 2012 ones at: >>> http://gsoc2012.esug.org/ideas. >>> >>> Note also that students yourselves can propose a GSoC project. So if you >>> like to be a student on this year GSoC and have a nice idea, don't be >>> shy and propose it here! The community will listen you and guide to the >>> really nicely proposed project. Last year 6 student proposed projects >>> were accepted and finished successfully! >>> >>> For the community, start looking around for students. Think about how to >>> approach the universities near by you, do you know who to contact >>> there, etc. >>> >>> We are namely preparing an application to this year Smalltalk Google >>> Summer of Code under ESUG umbrella, as last year. If accepted, Google >>> will pay few stipendiums to students on our Smalltalk projects. >>> >>> More on our special Smalltalk GSoC 2013 website: >>> >>> http://gsoc2013.esug.org >>> >>> I'm specially inviting mentors of all past GSoCs to rejoin the mentors >>> mailing list, where we discuss all details about this year GSoC: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors >>> >>> While students interested on GSoC please join a special Smalltalk GSoC >>> mailing list for you: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-students >>> >>> Best regards >>> Janko >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Janko MivÅ¡ek >>> Aida/Web >>> Smalltalk Web Application Server >>> http://www.aidaweb.si >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Aida/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si >

March 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [squeak-dev] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

=============================================================== UIPainter =============================================================== Level: advanced Possible mentor: StÃ©phane Ducasse Possible second mentor: Esteban Lorenzano Description: The purpose is to offer a way to easily describe and create UI using a point and click interface. This interface should be extendable, as well as the widget proposed. The Painter should also propose a simple way to link widgets together, and to locally redefine behaviours. Technical Details: using Spec, the UIPainter should be able to generate the needed methods (and Layouts). The UI corresponding class could also be generated. Benefits to the Student: A deep understanding of UI creation. A good set of knowledges about widgets interactions. The students will also benefits of an understanding of Spec at all the levels. Benefits to the Community: The community will benefit of a new tool for generating UIs easily using the new platform independent UI framework. A UIPainter will help developers by improving the widgets reuse and simply the process of UI creation. =============================================================== Spec platform/framework Independence =============================================================== Level: intermediate Possible mentor: StÃ©phane Ducasse Possible second mentor: Nicolas Petton Description: The goal is to improve and ensure the platform independence of Spec. Indeed, one of Spec goals is to generate widgets on multiple UI rendering framework (Morphic, Seaside, etc). The student could improve Spec by providing a set of widgets for multiple framework, and ensure the usability of Spec in different Smalltalk dialect. Technical Details: Currently running only in Pharo, Spec should be able to be used easily on Squeak. One interesting target is to be able to use it in Amber by example. Benefits to the Student: the student will acquire knowledge and experience about different Smalltalk implementation. He will also experience different UI framework, and trough Spec how widgets interact with each others. Benefits to the Community: The community will benefit of the coolness of Spec, and will also have a single way to define UIs regardless of the framework used to render them. =============================================================== Nautilus In Spec =============================================================== Level: intermediate Possible mentor: StÃ©phane Ducasse Possible second mentor: Benjamin Van Ryseghem Description: Nautilus is the new default browser for Pharo3.0. But because the UI is fully platform dependent, it can not be used in other dialects (contrary to OB by example). The goal is to migrate the entire Nautilus UI to a Spec based version, ti be able to export Nautilus. Technical Details: Currently Nautilus is fully written using Morphic (and even have its own morphic widgets). The idea is to redefine the existing UI using Spec, rethink the way interaction between sub widget is done, and provide a way to statically describe Nautilus UI. Benefits to the Student: the student will acquire knowledge about Morphic. He will also learn how Spec is working and its mechanisms for event propagation as well as widget static description. He will also learn how to define new Spec widgets and how to link them to already existing Morphic widgets. Benefits to the Community: The community will benefit of a more modular UI for Nautilus (since every one can then specify its one Nautilus UI), as well as a browser which may be used in different dialects. ===============================================================

March 9, 2013

[Pharo-project] First complete version of the ZeroConf and CommandHandler chapter :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This chapter will be included in the Deep into Pharo book. We are working to release it. Then we are working on Pharo for the entreprise. Stef

March 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo consultants

by stephane ducasse

> That would be awesome. > > Glad to hear about an initiative to make things sustainable. > > A catalog of people who works using it would be great. We have the association just for that! In the next version we will add blogging facilities. > No need to be a social network site, just a catalog for people to navigate who's working with it. Plus a subscribe/login for everyone manage its own profile so consultants can set a photo some bio and its portfolio Did you check the association web site :) > Everybody could endorse skills or write reviews We cannot do that but you can link to linkedIn. > I know I know... Linked In already kind of does that, but that's not the point so we are already linking into linkedIn :) > > The point is that we have our little proprietary thing focused on Pharo and endorsed by Pharo itself We have the association and it points to linkedIn > If I would have available time I would make flowing itself to sponsor with developing such a site/extension to current pharo site Sorry but I do not understand what you mean. > > sebastian > > o/ > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I just got a nice chat with a cool Pharo expert (Mariano) that is doing consulting and development around Pharo and this is a cool feeling to know that smart guys in our community can find nice jobs that keeps them busy in Pharo. >> I think that we should market the community much more, because I think that this is important for other companies >> to know that they can find help with really talented people in our community. >> May be we should make more noise around: >> Pharo: a community with smart developers for cool business >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> >

March 9, 2013