March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

by seaside＠rmod.lille.inria.fr

Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS ### What's next, until 2013-03-24 (*): - $NEXT_STEPS_TOWARDS_WORLD_DOMINATION (*) we'll be expecting results by then ;)

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Latest pharo issue with Eliot's latest Cog

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Stephan, Pharo 2.0 does not work with Eliot builds (and it will not work in some scenarios). In this case, the main reason is that we rebuild (and use) FilePlugin and it is not incorporated in Eliot branch of the vm... so the FileDialogWindow will take years to open if opens at all. You need to use one of our VM builds (anyone from last 6 months to now should work) Esteban On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > The problem is not just with the MOOSE image, > Pharo 20598 and Cog.app 2071 doesn't allow a > file dialog to be opened. > > FileDialogWindow new open > > Stephan >

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] about communication and collaboration

by Camillo Bruni

very nice it gets my official stamp of approval! On 2013-03-12, at 16:13, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I guess the test email I just triggered is busy braving the snow & blizzard > outsideâ¦ > > > On 12 March 2013 16:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Dear Pharoers >> >> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was >> not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are >> working hard to build a better system. >> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas >> that what we do for our research team. >> >> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to >> say to the others what we did and what we >> plan to do. Simple, easy. >> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. >> >> We want to do the same with pharo. >> Often this is not that we are not doing things. Often we are doing boring, >> tedious stupid but $^%&&*^ important tasks and we want that you know it. >> In addition we want to share on what we are weekly working. So that you >> can be more engaged to >> join and collaborate with us. >> >> So we will launch an experience and see. For now we will send a >> notification every two weeks. >> >> the Pharo Team >> > > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] some little aif files

by stephane ducasse

Simple they are in the SoundLibrary class variable of SampledSound Stef On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There are creative commons sounds here: > http://soundbible.com/free-sound-effects-3.html > > but they should be converted to aiff > > > In other hand, seems like a good way of trying if Fuel can transfer > objects from Squeak to Pharo. How can I find the instances in squeak, > to try? > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> the sound system requires to have some sounds loaded in the sound library. >> Befre it was croak, swirlâ¦. >> Now since the files used to create the objects are probably gone from age, I would like to find some little >> aif files that we can load in the system. >> does anybody have an idea of where I can find such aif free files? >> >> I could serialize the objects from the squeak image but I do not know if this is a good idea. >> >> Stef >

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] beta 1.4 documentation online

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

These are the standard installed handlers: $ ../vm.sh Pharo.image --list Currently installed Command Line Handlers: st Loads and executes .st source files Fuel Loads fuel files config Install and inspect Metacello Configurations from the command line save Rename the image and changes file test A command line test runner update Load updates printVersion Print image version eval Directly evaluates passed in one line scripts for each of them you can do --help $ ../vm.sh Pharo.image save --help Usage: save <imageBaseName> [--delete-old] <imageName> a base name for the image --delete-old remove the old image and changes file Documentation: Saves the image and changes file under a new name. Examples: # create a 'bar.image' and 'foo.changes' $PHAROVM Foo.image saveAs bar # create the same file as in the previous example but delete Foo.image and Foo.changes $PHAROVM Foo.image saveAs bar --delete-old Sven On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:48, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > That already exists no ? > > $ ./vm.sh Pharo.image save Foo > > will do a 'Save As..' to Foo.[image|changes] > > On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:45, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > >> BTW, an interesting additional ./vm.sh command would be: >> >> $./vm.sh clone Pharo WebDocExperiment >> >> which would do a copy of Pharo.image and Pharo.changes to the >> WebDoc.image and WebDoc.changes >> >> Phil >> 2013/3/12 Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com>: >>> impressive!! >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >>>> http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4/doc/package/undefined >>>> >>>> RSArrayNode. >>>> >>>> 2013/3/12 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-03-12, at 14:49, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> finally, after the 100th attempt I managed to export the documentation on >>>>>>> 1.4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this weekend I will tackle 2.0 :) and of course, it still needs some love! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> - How can I export it myself too? >>>>> >>>>> currently work in progress, but there is a configuration for it: >>>>> >>>>> Gofer new >>>>> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/webdoc/main' >>>>> configurationOf: 'WebDoc'; >>>>> loadDevelopment. >>>>> >>>>> And I think you have to manually start up a seaside adapter, once that is done: >>>>> >>>>> http://localhost:8080/doc >>>>> >>>>> should do the trick. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - We should report issues about it in the foogzbuz (or whatever it is >>>>>> called I cannot reproduce yet :P). >>>>> >>>>> yes, maybe let's wait until next weekend :) since it doesn't run under >>>>> 2.0 yet :P. I won't work on during the day :P that is reserved for Guido and >>>>> the paper... >>>> >>> >> >

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:08 PM, seaside(a)rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - Working on Pharo 2.0 release (a lot) - VM stuff (merges, catch bugs, jenkins) - A couple of passes on consortium site. > > ### What's next, until 2013-03-24 (*): - Release Pharo 2.0 - Build 1.4 winter (we need to incorporate one critical bugfix to 1.4 and new VMs) - Review 2.0 (Retrospective meeting, etc.) - Plan and start Pharo 3.0 - More VM stuff - Update of association site (no, it will not look good now, it will still suck until we get a real designer, but it will incorporate some adjustments I made for consortium site) (and this could be postponed, too) Esteban

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] about communication and collaboration

by Serge Stinckwich

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Dear Pharoers > > last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. > I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. > So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. > > For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we > plan to do. Simple, easy. > Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a have a description somewhere how it works ? This is similar to a standup meeting ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] beta 1.4 documentation online

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

That already exists no ? $ ./vm.sh Pharo.image save Foo will do a 'Save As..' to Foo.[image|changes] On 12 Mar 2013, at 16:45, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > BTW, an interesting additional ./vm.sh command would be: > > $./vm.sh clone Pharo WebDocExperiment > > which would do a copy of Pharo.image and Pharo.changes to the > WebDoc.image and WebDoc.changes > > Phil > 2013/3/12 Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com>: >> impressive!! >> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >>> http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4/doc/package/undefined >>> >>> RSArrayNode. >>> >>> 2013/3/12 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> On 2013-03-12, at 14:49, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> finally, after the 100th attempt I managed to export the documentation on >>>>>> 1.4 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/doc/1.4 >>>>>> >>>>>> this weekend I will tackle 2.0 :) and of course, it still needs some love! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> - How can I export it myself too? >>>> >>>> currently work in progress, but there is a configuration for it: >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/webdoc/main' >>>> configurationOf: 'WebDoc'; >>>> loadDevelopment. >>>> >>>> And I think you have to manually start up a seaside adapter, once that is done: >>>> >>>> http://localhost:8080/doc >>>> >>>> should do the trick. >>>> >>>> >>>>> - We should report issues about it in the foogzbuz (or whatever it is >>>>> called I cannot reproduce yet :P). >>>> >>>> yes, maybe let's wait until next weekend :) since it doesn't run under >>>> 2.0 yet :P. I won't work on during the day :P that is reserved for Guido and >>>> the paper... >>> >> >

March 12, 2013

[Pharo-project] Latest pharo issue with Eliot's latest Cog

by Stephan Eggermont

The problem is not just with the MOOSE image, Pharo 20598 and Cog.app 2071 doesn't allow a file dialog to be opened. FileDialogWindow new open Stephan

March 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] some little aif files

by phil＠highoctane.be

Why don't you use FMSound and be done with that. No need for those extra sounds. You can vary pitch, envelope, etc. Phil 2013/3/12 Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com>: > There are creative commons sounds here: > http://soundbible.com/free-sound-effects-3.html > > but they should be converted to aiff > > > In other hand, seems like a good way of trying if Fuel can transfer > objects from Squeak to Pharo. How can I find the instances in squeak, > to try? > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> the sound system requires to have some sounds loaded in the sound library. >> Befre it was croak, swirlâ¦. >> Now since the files used to create the objects are probably gone from age, I would like to find some little >> aif files that we can load in the system. >> does anybody have an idea of where I can find such aif free files? >> >> I could serialize the objects from the squeak image but I do not know if this is a good idea. >> >> Stef >

March 12, 2013