February 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 07.02.2013 um 10:08 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> >> On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without >>> .changes and .sources files >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… >>> >>> Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. >>> >> >> Stackoverflow is just one channel to much for meâ¦ I need to controll how this or I will do nothing but >> just read and filter. >> > Basically it is very easy. You can define the tags you are interested in and you can have a digest of that channel. So, I never look myself at stackoverflow but if a seaside, smalltalk, pharo,â¦ question is asked I get an email. Not much to do there. For certain typical questions I find stackoverflow a good thing because it is kind of a faq/documentation site. Only in this regard I prefer it to the mailing lists. Ok, I will check itâ¦ Marcus

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Norbert Hartl

Am 07.02.2013 um 10:06 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > SmalltalkImage > checkSourcesFileAvailability: false; > checkChangesFileAvailability: false. > > And then save the image. > If you are on stackoverflow I would prefer if you could post your answer there again. thanks, Norbert > On 07 Feb 2013, at 09:59, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without >> .changes and .sources files >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… >> >> Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> > >

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Marten Feldtmann

The good thing about stackoverflow is, that its an open q&a system for various languages and a system mentioned there means additional advertisement. I sometimes find myselfs there due to a question and suddenly was reading answer for different systems. Marten On 07.02.2013 10:08, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Damien Cassou<damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without >> .changes and .sources files >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… >> >> Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. >> > > Stackoverflow is just one channel to much for meâ¦ I need to controll how this or I will do nothing but > just read and filter. > > Marcus

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] github repository

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-02-07, at 10:07, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I just killed all the file-tree noise (mostly metacello version info) >> >> Now we can properly see what changed between pharo versions over all packages: >> >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/cea99d02a2d0d743880cd7a8… >> >> => this will be my major source for debugging information when looking for newly introduced bugs! >> => using git-bisect it will be super easy to find these bugs > > > That's really great. What a nice view on the changes. This really > proves we have to leverage existing infrastructure as much as we can. > > Minor comments: > > - would it be possible to ensure all files have a newline character at > the end to avoid this "\ No newline at end of file" everywhere? ha, that's actually a filetree issue ;), I will have to look into it this weekend. In any case I have to cut down the export-times to 7mins again, currently we're at 2h50mins ;) > - can we get meaningful commit messages? it's all still early stage... right now I put the commit messages on the tags. Since technically the commits should be each users changes and you track down changes between each tag/pharo release. but yeah, I should be able to change that for now.

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Norbert Hartl

Am 07.02.2013 um 10:08 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without >> .changes and .sources files >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… >> >> Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. >> > > Stackoverflow is just one channel to much for meâ¦ I need to controll how this or I will do nothing but > just read and filter. > Basically it is very easy. You can define the tags you are interested in and you can have a digest of that channel. So, I never look myself at stackoverflow but if a seaside, smalltalk, pharo,â¦ question is asked I get an email. Not much to do there. For certain typical questions I find stackoverflow a good thing because it is kind of a faq/documentation site. Only in this regard I prefer it to the mailing lists. Norbert

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] github repository

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 07 Feb 2013, at 10:07, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you very much Camillo +100

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without > .changes and .sources files > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… > > Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. > Stackoverflow is just one channel to much for meâ¦ I need to controll how this or I will do nothing but just read and filter. Marcus

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] github repository

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I just killed all the file-tree noise (mostly metacello version info) > > Now we can properly see what changed between pharo versions over all packages: > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/cea99d02a2d0d743880cd7a8… > > => this will be my major source for debugging information when looking for newly introduced bugs! > => using git-bisect it will be super easy to find these bugs That's really great. What a nice view on the changes. This really proves we have to leverage existing infrastructure as much as we can. Minor comments: - would it be possible to ensure all files have a newline character at the end to avoid this "\ No newline at end of file" everywhere? - can we get meaningful commit messages? Thank you very much Camillo -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Feb. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

SmalltalkImage checkSourcesFileAvailability: false; checkChangesFileAvailability: false. And then save the image. On 07 Feb 2013, at 09:59, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without > .changes and .sources files > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… > > Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Feb. 7, 2013

[Pharo-project] Deploying without .changes and .sources files

by Damien Cassou

Hi, Norbert asked about the possibility to deploy a pharo image without .changes and .sources files http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14737695/is-it-possible-to-deploy-a-phar… Could people participate to the discussion there? I think it is important. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Feb. 7, 2013