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Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by Esteban Lorenzano

oh, now I understandâ¦ anyway, I removed all repositories except pharo-core (just .st files). probably I should add pharo-vm, but not sure aboutâ¦ Esteban On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:36, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Changing it is actually very easy to do so. > > Go to the link I gave you , scroll all the way down and you will find in the left side Project Summary , now underneath there is "Settings" click it. > > Now click to "Code locations" > > It will send you to the repositories. > > I would advise at this point to keep only the pharo 3 repository and remove the others but thats up to you. Now for each repo there is a Ignored files column , click on "edit ignored files", you can add files to be ignored or even entire folders. I would advise to keep folders only containing st files. That should solve the problem entirely and report 100% smalltalk. > > Give it a couple of days to update its statistics. > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Pharo does not has a single line of C# > > I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. > And I do not understand how to change it :( > > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. >> >> Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. >> >> http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo >> >> Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not sure. >> >> I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project. > >

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by kilon alios

Changing it is actually very easy to do so. Go to the link I gave you , scroll all the way down and you will find in the left side Project Summary , now underneath there is "Settings" click it. Now click to "Code locations" It will send you to the repositories. I would advise at this point to keep only the pharo 3 repository and remove the others but thats up to you. Now for each repo there is a Ignored files column , click on "edit ignored files", you can add files to be ignored or even entire folders. I would advise to keep folders only containing st files. That should solve the problem entirely and report 100% smalltalk. Give it a couple of days to update its statistics. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Pharo does not has a single line of C# > > I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I > do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. > And I do not understand how to change it :( > > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. > > Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page > experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the > project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles > it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to > preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola > since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. > > http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo > > Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% > C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the > weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it > may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and > if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, > but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not > sure. > > I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project. > > >

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by Nicolas Cellier

2013/12/19 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Pharo does not has a single line of C# > > I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I > do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. > And I do not understand how to change it :( > > understand .cs = acronym for C Sharp... > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. > > Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page > experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the > project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles > it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to > preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola > since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. > > http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo > > Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% > C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the > weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it > may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and > if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, > but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not > sure. > > I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project. > > >

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by Nicolas Cellier

2013/12/19 kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. > > Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page > experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the > project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles > it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to > preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola > since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. > > http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo > > Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% > C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some > .cs extensions are "reserved" for, or at least identified as C# If we would use .st instead, this would workaround. other thing which are the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters > for some of the folders it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. > It does not take time and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo > I could do it for you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang > as C# though I am not sure. > > I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project. >

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] gtinspector deconstructed

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Doru, On 19 Dec 2013, at 07:50, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I took a bit of time to describe how the GTInspector works, what makes it different, and to provide hints for several usage scenarios. > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructed > > It's a long post, I know :), but please take a look. As you might know, this is the default inspector in the Moose image, but it can also be loaded in a fresh Pharo image. > > I am particularly interested in the following: > - if you never used it, and tried it now, what don't you like? > - if you used it, was there anything that you did not know? > - and of course, what do you like about it? > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" I read the blog post and installed the code in my working Pharo 3 image. First off, I like the debugger, it feels polished, and I like the inspector, it is quite interesting. The clear tables for instance variables names and values and dictionary keys and values are much better. SequenceableCollection indexes would be nice. Paging is cool. I miss an option to go back to less columns, like from 1 to 2 and back to 1, I canât seem to deselect something in the first one, which would be a way to let the second one disappear again. I hope I am making myself clear ;-) We have specialised inspectors for Integer and Float (and maybe some more) standard in Pharo, showing more high level virtual fields, it would be nice if you could implement those as well, maybe as alternative views. Which brings me to my final question: how do I write simple custom inspectors, given that I am not familiar with Glamour/Moose - that could maybe be another blog post ? Anyway, thanks for pushing this ! Sven PS: I wonder whether it would be possible to have both types of inspectors/debuggers available at the same time, so that one can switch on the fly, compare them, use one or the other depending on the task ? -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by Esteban Lorenzano

Pharo does not has a single line of C# I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. And I do not understand how to change it :( On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. > > Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. > > http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo > > Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not sure. > > I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project.

Dec. 19, 2013

About Pharo in Ohloh

by kilon alios

As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not sure. I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project.

Dec. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] gtinspector deconstructed

by Tudor Girba

Hi Roberto, Thanks for expressing an interest :). Please let us know when you encounter something that does not work for you. This is a critical tool in a Pharo environment and we need all the feedback we can get to improve it. It can indeed feel strange at first as it requires you to work a bit differently. Just out of curiosity: have you read the post already? Does it address your concerns? Dies it provide hints for how your workflow can be different? Cheers, Doru On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM, roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch < roberto.minelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: > Hi Doru, > > I have never used it till 2 days ago when I was playing with Andrei to do > something. > > The only thing I can say is that it âfeelsâ strange at the beginningâ¦ I am > not used to this horizontal navigationâ¦ I am more used to spawning a lot of > small inspectors that I can also use to compare things, i.e., one inspector > close to the other. > > Apart from that, Andrei told me it takes time but then you get used to it > and you love it. Letâs see. > > Cheers, > R > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I took a bit of time to describe how the GTInspector works, what makes > it different, and to provide hints for several usage scenarios. > > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructed > > > > It's a long post, I know :), but please take a look. As you might know, > this is the default inspector in the Moose image, but it can also be loaded > in a fresh Pharo image. > > > > I am particularly interested in the following: > > - if you never used it, and tried it now, what don't you like? > > - if you used it, was there anything that you did not know? > > - and of course, what do you like about it? > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 19, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30654 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Dec. 19, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 845bfd: 30654

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 845bfde743adcc8cd68a235ef2101e6cf52b8de0 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/845bfde743adcc8cd68a235e… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-12-19 (Thu, 19 Dec 2013) Changed paths: M Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/definition.st A Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/controls/beResizeable.st A Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/controls/beUnresizeable.st A Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/controls/defaultIsResizeable.st A Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/controls/isResizeable.st A Morphic-Base.package/SystemWindow.class/instance/controls/isResizeable_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/DialogWindow.class/definition.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/DialogWindow.class/instance/controls/beResizeable.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/DialogWindow.class/instance/controls/beUnresizeable.st A Polymorph-Widgets.package/DialogWindow.class/instance/testing/defaultIsResizeable.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/DialogWindow.class/instance/testing/isResizeable.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/extension/SystemWindow/instance/canBeMaximized.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/extension/SystemWindow/instance/doubleClick_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/extension/SystemWindow/instance/wantsGrips.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script307.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30654.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30654 12385 Move isResizeable to SystemWindow https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12385 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30654.zip

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