December 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone noticed or tried Gravel?

by Jan Vrany

> > "Gravel aims to be fullyANSI Smalltalk > <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/172> compatible.â > > â> the author has no clue. > Could you be please more specific and tell me why this implies somebody's clueless? Jan

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone noticed or tried Gravel?

by Marcus Denker

On 20 Dec 2013, at 23:10, vfclists . <vfclists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone noticed or tried Gravel? > > https://github.com/gravel-st/gravel > "Gravel aims to be fullyANSI Smalltalk compatible.â â> the author has no clue. Marcus

Dec. 20, 2013

Anyone noticed or tried Gravel?

by vfclists .

Anyone noticed or tried Gravel? https://github.com/gravel-st/gravel -- Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] PackageTreeNautilus (undestroyable?)

by Esteban Lorenzano

btw, can you report a bug, so I can keep track of it? Esteban On 20 Dec 2013, at 16:07, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeah, I call him âthe willisâ :) > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 22:25, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I recently noticed a awful big number of Announcer instances (thousends). >> I traced them back to PackageTreeNautilus. I closed the unsaved image >> and reopened pharo. >> I couldn't reproduce this but found out, that if you opened Nautilus once, >> there will allways be one instance of PackageTreeNautilus >> even if you close all windows. >> >> How to reproduce: >> Load a freshly image. >> >> Announcer allInstances size.-> 155 >> PackageTreeNautilus allInstances size. -> 0 >> >> Open and close Nautilus. >> >> SmalltalkImage current garbageCollect. >> Announcer allInstances size. -> 1261 >> PackageTreeNautilus allInstances size. -> 1 >> >> This instance of PackageTreeNautilus won't go away. >> Is this intended? >> >> >> Nicolai >

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

for FileDirectory you have a loadable package. â¦ but that does not has anything to do with FFI, I think :) Esteban On 20 Dec 2013, at 17:34, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > It loads alright but I have to port some dependencies (on FileDirectory of other parts of the code) so I don't have conclusive results so far. > > But things are unstuck now > > From my side, I'll let you know about any news on this > > sebastian > > o/ > > > > > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12438/Old-FFI-Check-that-it-is-parsed-cor… >> >> I was fixing this bug with Guille today. >> >> You can load FFI with the Configuration browser. Please try to load, use it and review the issue. >> >> We also added the new configuration in the old metacello repository in squeaksource (buu old one). >> >> So, try to fix your configurations to point to the correct repository :). >> >> Thanks! >> Clement & Guille >

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by Esteban Lorenzano

wellâ¦ thatâs actually more accurate because I added the pharo-vm (but it does not has code in c++, I need to see how to fix that) On 20 Dec 2013, at 17:51, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think we are back to square one :D > > It reports again 30% smalltalk , 30% C and 30% C++ :D > > maybe it has reset your ignore filters. > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes, I added pharo-vm, but now we have to wait until is updated :) > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 22:42, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> nice 100% smalltalk, well done. But lets be sincere and add the parts that are pure C. Afterall Pharo is not exactly 100% Smalltalk , hehe. Yes VM should be part of the deal too. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I got itâ¦ now looks a lot better :) >> >> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:44, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> oh, now I understandâ¦ >>> anyway, I removed all repositories except pharo-core (just .st files). >>> >>> probably I should add pharo-vm, but not sure aboutâ¦ >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:36, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Changing it is actually very easy to do so. >>>> >>>> Go to the link I gave you , scroll all the way down and you will find in the left side Project Summary , now underneath there is "Settings" click it. >>>> >>>> Now click to "Code locations" >>>> >>>> It will send you to the repositories. >>>> >>>> I would advise at this point to keep only the pharo 3 repository and remove the others but thats up to you. Now for each repo there is a Ignored files column , click on "edit ignored files", you can add files to be ignored or even entire folders. I would advise to keep folders only containing st files. That should solve the problem entirely and report 100% smalltalk. >>>> >>>> Give it a couple of days to update its statistics. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Pharo does not has a single line of C# >>>> >>>> I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. >>>> And I do not understand how to change it :( >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source projects. >>>>> >>>>> Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo >>>>> >>>>> Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be 30% C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am not sure. >>>>> >>>>> I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# project. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo in Ohloh

by kilon alios

I think we are back to square one :D It reports again 30% smalltalk , 30% C and 30% C++ :D maybe it has reset your ignore filters. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > yes, I added pharo-vm, but now we have to wait until is updated :) > > On 19 Dec 2013, at 22:42, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > nice 100% smalltalk, well done. But lets be sincere and add the parts that > are pure C. Afterall Pharo is not exactly 100% Smalltalk , hehe. Yes VM > should be part of the deal too. > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> I got itâ¦ now looks a lot better :) >> >> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:44, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> oh, now I understandâ¦ >> anyway, I removed all repositories except pharo-core (just .st files). >> >> probably I should add pharo-vm, but not sure aboutâ¦ >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:36, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Changing it is actually very easy to do so. >> >> Go to the link I gave you , scroll all the way down and you will find in >> the left side Project Summary , now underneath there is "Settings" click >> it. >> >> Now click to "Code locations" >> >> It will send you to the repositories. >> >> I would advise at this point to keep only the pharo 3 repository and >> remove the others but thats up to you. Now for each repo there is a Ignored >> files column , click on "edit ignored files", you can add files to be >> ignored or even entire folders. I would advise to keep folders only >> containing st files. That should solve the problem entirely and report 100% >> smalltalk. >> >> Give it a couple of days to update its statistics. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Pharo does not has a single line of C# >>> >>> I cannot understand what it says that *I* program âmostlyâ in C#, when I >>> do not touch that shity language since 5 years, at least. >>> And I do not understand how to change it :( >>> >>> >>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 21:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> As you know Ohloh is a very good promotional site for open source >>> projects. >>> >>> Pharo has already a page on it. However I did observe that Pharo page >>> experiences the same issue as Amber. In Amber it reported that 80% of the >>> project was made with Javascript. It reported that because Amber compiles >>> it source code (smalltalk) to javascript. So all I had to do was to go to >>> preferences page and add ignore filter for javascript folders and viola >>> since then Amber is reported to be 80% smalltalk. >>> >>> http://www.ohloh.net/p/pharo >>> >>> Pharo is in somewhat or even more weird situation. Its reported to be >>> 30% C which is the bad and 17% C# (WTF?) and 30% some other thing which are >>> the weird parts. So maybe if you add ignore filters for some of the folders >>> it may be able to increase the % of the smalltalk. It does not take time >>> and if I was familiar with the build process of Pharo I could do it for >>> you, but I have no clue. I assume it probably sees Slang as C# though I am >>> not sure. >>> >>> I think its unfair for Pharo to be given the impression of a C/C# >>> project. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

by Sebastian Sastre

It loads alright but I have to port some dependencies (on FileDirectory of other parts of the code) so I don't have conclusive results so far. But things are unstuck now >From my side, I'll let you know about any news on this sebastian o/ On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12438/Old-FFI-Check-that-it-is-parsed-cor… > > I was fixing this bug with Guille today. > > You can load FFI with the Configuration browser. Please try to load, use it and review the issue. > > We also added the new configuration in the old metacello repository in squeaksource (buu old one). > > So, try to fix your configurations to point to the correct repository :). > > Thanks! > Clement & Guille

Dec. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

by Sebastian Sastre

testing.. On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12438/Old-FFI-Check-that-it-is-parsed-cor… > > I was fixing this bug with Guille today. > > You can load FFI with the Configuration browser. Please try to load, use it and review the issue. > > We also added the new configuration in the old metacello repository in squeaksource (buu old one). > > So, try to fix your configurations to point to the correct repository :). > > Thanks! > Clement & Guille

Dec. 20, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/30658 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Dec. 20, 2013