December 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Merry Christmas!

by phil＠highoctane.be

Works! (Windows here!) Would be nice to have it fully visible in the window upon start. How to? Phil On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > In a fresh 3.0 image: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package: > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d) > loadDevelopment > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Then do it: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > | view text x y el r | > text := ' > xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx > xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x x > x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx > x x x xxxxx xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x > x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx > x x x x x xxxxx > '. > view := R3View new. > x := 0. > y := 0. > > mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. > mat specular: Color green. > mat shininess: 10.0. > > text linesDo: [ :line | > line do: [ :c | > (c = $x) ifTrue: [ > el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) element. > el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink on: > evt element. > r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: > (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. > el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. > view add: el > ]. > x := x + 1 > ]. > x := 0. > y := y + 1. > ]. > > view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. > > view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: > R3KeyControlForMac new. > view open > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Use keys: W A S D > Click on letters > > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > The Profilers > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Dec. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Merry Christmas!

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Merry Christmas! This is a very nice visualisation. Thank you Alex! Uko On 25 Dec 2013, at 10:05, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > text := ' > xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx x x x xxxxx xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx > '. > view := R3View new. > x := 0. > y := 0. > > mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. > mat specular: Color green. > mat shininess: 10.0. > > text linesDo: [ :line | > line do: [ :c | > (c = $x) ifTrue: [ > el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) element. > el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink on: evt element. > r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. > el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. > view add: el > ]. > x := x + 1 > ]. > x := 0. > y := y + 1. > ]. > > view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. > > view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: R3KeyControlForMac new. > view open

Dec. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Merry Christmas!

by Erwan Douaille

Merry christmas everyone :) I really like the 3D script ;) 2013/12/25 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > > By the way your graphic eats away 90% of my dual core 1.4 Cpu. Have to > close the window because it overheats my macbook air almost immediately. > > Strange, does not happen to me. I have a recent macbook air. Anyway, this > is not surprising. > > Alexandre > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > > > In a fresh 3.0 image: > > > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package: > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d) > loadDevelopment > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > > > Then do it: > > > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > | view text x y el r | > > text := ' > > xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx > xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx > > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x x > > x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx > x x x xxxxx xxxxx > > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x > > x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx > x x x x x xxxxx > > '. > > view := R3View new. > > x := 0. > > y := 0. > > > > mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. > > mat specular: Color green. > > mat shininess: 10.0. > > > > text linesDo: [ :line | > > line do: [ :c | > > (c = $x) ifTrue: [ > > el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) > element. > > el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink > on: evt element. > > r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: > (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. > > el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. > > view add: el > > ]. > > x := x + 1 > > ]. > > x := 0. > > y := y + 1. > > ]. > > > > view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. > > > > view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: > R3KeyControlForMac new. > > view open > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > > > Use keys: W A S D > > Click on letters > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Cheers, > > The Profilers > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- Best regards, Douaille Erwan <douaille.erwan(a)gmail.com>

Dec. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Merry Christmas!

by Alexandre Bergel

> By the way your graphic eats away 90% of my dual core 1.4 Cpu. Have to close the window because it overheats my macbook air almost immediately. Strange, does not happen to me. I have a recent macbook air. Anyway, this is not surprising. Alexandre > > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > In a fresh 3.0 image: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d) loadDevelopment > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Then do it: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > | view text x y el r | > text := ' > xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx x x x xxxxx xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx > '. > view := R3View new. > x := 0. > y := 0. > > mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. > mat specular: Color green. > mat shininess: 10.0. > > text linesDo: [ :line | > line do: [ :c | > (c = $x) ifTrue: [ > el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) element. > el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink on: evt element. > r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. > el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. > view add: el > ]. > x := x + 1 > ]. > x := 0. > y := y + 1. > ]. > > view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. > > view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: R3KeyControlForMac new. > view open > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Use keys: W A S D > Click on letters > > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > The Profilers > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Merry Christmas!

by kilon alios

Merry Christmas to you too. I wish health and happiness to all pharo community and their families. By the way your graphic eats away 90% of my dual core 1.4 Cpu. Have to close the window because it overheats my macbook air almost immediately. On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > In a fresh 3.0 image: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package: > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d) > loadDevelopment > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Then do it: > > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > | view text x y el r | > text := ' > xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx > xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x x > x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx > x x x xxxxx xxxxx > x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x x x x x > x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx > x x x x x xxxxx > '. > view := R3View new. > x := 0. > y := 0. > > mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. > mat specular: Color green. > mat shininess: 10.0. > > text linesDo: [ :line | > line do: [ :c | > (c = $x) ifTrue: [ > el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) element. > el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink on: > evt element. > r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: > (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. > el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. > view add: el > ]. > x := x + 1 > ]. > x := 0. > y := y + 1. > ]. > > view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. > > view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: > R3KeyControlForMac new. > view open > -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- > > Use keys: W A S D > Click on letters > > Enjoy! > > Cheers, > The Profilers > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Dec. 25, 2013

Merry Christmas!

by Alexandre Bergel

Merry Christmas to all of you! In a fresh 3.0 image: -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d) loadDevelopment -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- Then do it: -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- | view text x y el r | text := ' xx xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx x x xxxxx x x xxxxx x xxxxx xxxxx xx xx x xxxxx x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x xxx xxxx xxxx xxx x xxxxx xxxx x xxxxx x x x xxxxx xxxxx x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx x x x x x xxxxx '. view := R3View new. x := 0. y := 0. mat := R3Material new diffuse: Color lightGray. mat specular: Color green. mat shininess: 10.0. text linesDo: [ :line | line do: [ :c | (c = $x) ifTrue: [ el := (R3CubeShape new color: Color green) element. el on: R3MouseClickDown do: [ :evt | R3Blink on: evt element. r := (R3Rotate on: evt element by: (R3Vector3 newX: -0.5)). view addAnimation: r ]. el translateByX: x y: y negated z: 0. view add: el ]. x := x + 1 ]. x := 0. y := y + 1. ]. view lightingModel: R3MultipassPerPixelLighting new. view addInteraction: R3MouseControl new; addInteraction: R3KeyControlForMac new. view open -=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=- Use keys: W A S D Click on letters Enjoy! Cheers, The Profilers -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus as default/only Systembrowser for pharo3

by kilon alios

there is no "should" in a open source project. Saying that I very much doubt it there is a single pharoer that does not care about the stability and improvement of his own code. Experimentation is part of the game of learning, and without learning you can have no bug fixes. If you don't understand the problem then you cant fix it. Or even worse you may think its not broken in the first place. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > 2013/12/24 kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > >> I agree too , having realistic expectations is the wise thing to do. All >> of us want the Stars and the Moon , the question is what we can really >> have and that we all or at least most of us do contribute even in very >> small portions. Whats better way to live than improve the very things we >> love ? >> >> Personally I love all the new "unclean" things I see in pharo. Why keep >> things in a closet because of unknown bugs, unleash them to the world and >> let the world shape them to something mature. Thats how you make great >> code. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> I really like Nautilus, the groups, the history navigation, the code >>> panel with the color warning for >>> >> long methods. It is good doing experiments with new or better >>> developer tools. >>> >> >>> >> But some parts just looking as "quickly hacked into it", just to make >>> it running. >>> >> And there are bugs. >>> >> Nautilus could need some refactoring/code cleanup. >>> >> >>> >> In my point of view, in a clean and stable pharo release, >>> >> all smalltalks tools (browser debugger inspectro ...) should show you >>> >> "look, thats the way of doing it in smalltalk /pharo". >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I would really like to more emphasis on "clean and stableâ. >>> >>> Oh yes. Now if somebody has 5 engineers that do not know what to do, I >>> have some ideas :) >>> >>> > Yes.. the problem is not the âwantâ but the âdoââ¦ in the end we always >>> need to manage >>> > it with the limited resources we haveâ¦ >>> >>> + 1 >>> This is why we should simplify and clean it. >>> >>> Stef >>> >> >> > > I understand, lack of time/manpower. But if we have the time, to introduce > new or experimental things, > we should focus to have stable tools. > > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus as default/only Systembrowser for pharo3

by Nicolai Hess

2013/12/24 kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > I agree too , having realistic expectations is the wise thing to do. All > of us want the Stars and the Moon , the question is what we can really > have and that we all or at least most of us do contribute even in very > small portions. Whats better way to live than improve the very things we > love ? > > Personally I love all the new "unclean" things I see in pharo. Why keep > things in a closet because of unknown bugs, unleash them to the world and > let the world shape them to something mature. Thats how you make great > code. > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> >> I really like Nautilus, the groups, the history navigation, the code >> panel with the color warning for >> >> long methods. It is good doing experiments with new or better >> developer tools. >> >> >> >> But some parts just looking as "quickly hacked into it", just to make >> it running. >> >> And there are bugs. >> >> Nautilus could need some refactoring/code cleanup. >> >> >> >> In my point of view, in a clean and stable pharo release, >> >> all smalltalks tools (browser debugger inspectro ...) should show you >> >> "look, thats the way of doing it in smalltalk /pharo". >> >> >> >> >> >> I would really like to more emphasis on "clean and stableâ. >> >> Oh yes. Now if somebody has 5 engineers that do not know what to do, I >> have some ideas :) >> >> > Yes.. the problem is not the âwantâ but the âdoââ¦ in the end we always >> need to manage >> > it with the limited resources we haveâ¦ >> >> + 1 >> This is why we should simplify and clean it. >> >> Stef >> > > I understand, lack of time/manpower. But if we have the time, to introduce new or experimental things, we should focus to have stable tools.

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transparent colors with NBOpenGL?

by Igor Stasenko

On 24 December 2013 21:01, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Denis, > > The shape color is not enough to know about its transparency, because it > could have a texture with partially transparent elements. Despite that, > there's another kind of transparency, fully opaque or fully transparent, > which doesn't require special rendering. That other kind of transparency is > supported by the multi-pass lighting models. > > ... and there are many different techniques for rendering scenes with semi-transparent objects, including ray-tracing. Some solutions are simple some are complex, and require significant efforts for implementing them, like properly organizing/adjusting data structures and rendering pipeline. So, answering question if it 'can be automatic', - yes, if someone will implement it. OpenGL out-of-the-box, don't have such automagic. Greetings > Ronie Salgado > > > 2013/12/24 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi >> >> 2013/12/24 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> >>> >>> el1 := (R3CubeShape new color: (Color purple alpha: 0.2)) element. >>> el2 := (R3CubeShape new color: (Color purple alpha: 0.2)) element. >>> el1 makeTranslucent. >> >> >> Can it be automatic? Element has color which know about its transparency >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus as default/only Systembrowser for pharo3

by kilon alios

I agree too , having realistic expectations is the wise thing to do. All of us want the Stars and the Moon , the question is what we can really have and that we all or at least most of us do contribute even in very small portions. Whats better way to live than improve the very things we love ? Personally I love all the new "unclean" things I see in pharo. Why keep things in a closet because of unknown bugs, unleash them to the world and let the world shape them to something mature. Thats how you make great code. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > >> I really like Nautilus, the groups, the history navigation, the code > panel with the color warning for > >> long methods. It is good doing experiments with new or better developer > tools. > >> > >> But some parts just looking as "quickly hacked into it", just to make > it running. > >> And there are bugs. > >> Nautilus could need some refactoring/code cleanup. > >> > >> In my point of view, in a clean and stable pharo release, > >> all smalltalks tools (browser debugger inspectro ...) should show you > >> "look, thats the way of doing it in smalltalk /pharo". > >> > >> > >> I would really like to more emphasis on "clean and stableâ. > > Oh yes. Now if somebody has 5 engineers that do not know what to do, I > have some ideas :) > > > Yes.. the problem is not the âwantâ but the âdoââ¦ in the end we always > need to manage > > it with the limited resources we haveâ¦ > > + 1 > This is why we should simplify and clean it. > > Stef >

Dec. 24, 2013