December 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Searchbar in the browser

by Marcus Denker

On 09 Dec 2013, at 11:20, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What I would like, is a setting to remove it. > I usually do not use the packages list, > and once you end up tabbing in the search field, > you can not escape without your mouse, > and this is really grinding my gears :s > > So if I could just disable it, I would appreciate it :) The tabbing should be fixed in addition. Marcus

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Searchbar in the browser

by Benjamin

What I would like, is a setting to remove it. I usually do not use the packages list, and once you end up tabbing in the search field, you can not escape without your mouse, and this is really grinding my gears :s So if I could just disable it, I would appreciate it :) Ben On 08 Dec 2013, at 19:45, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > You may have noticed that Nautilus now has a search bar next to the list of packages. I personally find this extremely useful. This is the work of Juraj and he is interested in hearing your feedback. > > > > The textfield accepts regular expression. It means that entering âRoassalâ will display all the packages having the word âRoassalâ in it (e.g., RoassalExtra, ConfigurationOfRoassal). If I enter â^Roassalâ, it displays all the packages that begin with âRoassalâ. (e.g., RoassalExtra). > > > > Any idea how to make this feature more apparent? Anything else you want to see with the searching in the browser? > > I would love to have the search bar searching also based on class name > Maybe -Point > could select the package that contains the class Point > -Point* > could select the package that contains the classes *Point* > > +1. > I could not get used to spotlight search (may be i am too lazy). But this would definitely help and I remember some earlier browser had it, and I used it so often. But then it was removed and I could never get accustomed to the new ways. > > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > >

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using TreeModel>>selectAll

by Benjamin

I am still chasing why itâs executed three times Must be an issue in the info propagation. Ben On 09 Dec 2013, at 06:48, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I'm back with more annoying questions :) > > Using #whenSelectedItemsChanged:, I see that the block is evaluated a lot of times: > > log := OrderedCollection new. > > roots := #(1 2) collect: [ :each | > TreeNodeModel new > content: each; > selected: true; > yourself ]. > > TreeModel new > roots: roots; > multiSelection: true; > whenSelectedItemsChanged: [ :items | > log add: items ]; > openWithSpec. > > log ---> an OrderedCollection(#() an OrderedCollection(1) an OrderedCollection(1) an OrderedCollection(1 2) an OrderedCollection(1 2) an OrderedCollection(1 2)) > > I'd expect only one evaluation... is it a bug or a feature? > > cheers, > MartÃn > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > aha! thanks > > MartÃn > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Benjamin > <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > roots := #(1 2 3) collect: [ :e | TreeNodeModel new content: e ; yourself ]. > > > > TreeModel new > > roots: roots; > > multiSelection: true; > > openWithSpec. > > > > roots third > > selected: true; > > takeHighlight > > > > Ben > > > > On 07 Dec 2013, at 05:44, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ouch! thanks Ben. > > > > Another related question: is there any way of selecting an arbitrary > > item? I tried (among others) with: > > > > TreeModel new > > roots: #(1 2 3); > > multiSelection: true; > > openWithSpec; > > selection: 3 > > > > without success. > > > > Cheers, > > MartÃn > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Benjamin > > <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > your tree here is single selection so it will not work > > > > TreeModel new > > roots: #(1 2 3); > > multiSelection: true; > > openWithSpec; > > selectAll > > > > Ben > > > > On 05 Dec 2013, at 15:38, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm not sure how this method should be used. I tried in different > > ways, for example: > > > > TreeModel new > > roots: #(1 2 3); > > selectAll; > > openWithSpec > > > > But always the items are unselected. Is it a bug? or I didn't find the > > way to use it? > > > > Thanks, > > MartÃn > > > > > > > > >

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk in a C World

by Friedrich Dominicus

kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> writes: > Sort answer is no , Pharo does not try to replace C/C++. CAD plugins > are indeed dlls and you will need C/C++ for that. I only Know Free > Pascal as another language to generate DLLs but even in that case its > extra work. > > So if you look for the most direct solution then Pharo wont cut it and > probably most other programming languages. > > Theoretically of course its possible , but someone would need to > implement this to make it easy to do and currently AFAIK none has. > > Bare in mind that DLLs are strictly a C/C++ invention and definitely > not how highly dynamic languages like Pharo work so there is no direct > need for Pharo to do such thing cause it would complicate the > workflow. I don't this is entirely true. AFAIKT Except Smalltalk can be used for generateing DLLs. However they are "compiling" to C AFAIKT. I'm quite sure that one can use ObjectArts Smalltalk also to generate niche Active X and I bet also shared libraries. Regards Friedrich

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue for Pharo2 needs review

by Stephan Eggermont

Hmm, not easily reproducible. Stephan

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk in a C World

by phil＠highoctane.be

The main issue is that it is complicated to embed the VM in C code. That's due to how the VM is done. Compared to TCL, where you can easily embed the interpreter in a C program, this is a problem. http://wiki.tcl.tk/3474 Where you can embed the interpreter in a C program, you can do whatever integration you want. Now, with NativeBoost, we can call C. The next challenge would be to be able to call Pharo from C by embedding the interpreter. I am curious to see what you guys think about this. I would love to see things like mod_pharo (as there is mod_php, mod_perl, mod_tcl...) in Apache. --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > please note that generating dlls alone wont be enough , plugins are > compiled against a runtime or specific libraries (a Plugin SDK) and > Smalltalk MT would have to be able to do that in order to be a viable > solution. > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> You should think that they use their smalltalk for their projects. >> >> Stef >> >> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:21 AM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> How can people even know Smalltalk MT still exist with their website and >> their communication ? >> >> I looked at other Smalltalks a while ago, for Smalltalk MT I clicked on >> "what's new" on their website and I got that: >> >> <Screen Shot 2013-12-09 at 9.18.11 AM.png> >> >> Then I thought this Smalltalk was dead (nothing new in the past 4 years) >> and I didn't look any further. >> >> >> 2013/12/8 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >>> >>> > Yes - still alive and kicking. But I'm sure you did not notice since >>> there >>> > are no "big" announcements or advertising for it. >>> > ObjectConnect follows the "time is better invested into technology" >>> strategy. >>> > It is one of the most interesting Smalltalks ever implemented. >>> >>> http://www.objectconnect.com/stmt_overview.htm >>> I like the idea that you can get 50kb applications. >>> Now since this is a closed system and windows-centric. >>> But I like that it shows that Smalltalk does not have to be the image >>> centric way. >>> >>> > >>> > The newest ST/MT 6.3 version (now 64 bit) is from end of November 2013 >>> >>> Now it is not a community thing. :) >>> And the web site stop and 5.6 in 2009. >>> >>> Last time I talk to tarrick he told me that he could control the "no gc >>> in the next 250 frames on PS2" >>> but it was in 1998 :) >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >> >> >> >

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Nautilus] How to copy a method from a class to another class ?

by kilon alios

ok I figured some things out and created the relevant methods but I am getting a MNU with copyMethod: toTheClass: Array(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #realClass PackageTreeNautilusUI(AbstractNautilusUI)>>copyMethod:toTheClass: PackageTreeNautilusUI(NautilusUI)>>pasteMethod MethodWidget class>>elementsMenu: in Block: [ target pasteMethod ] BlockClosure>>cull: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: in Block: [ ... BlockClosure>>ensure: CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>mouseUp: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>handleMouseUp: MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: in Block: [ ... BlockClosure>>on:do: WorldMorph(PasteUpMorph)>>becomeActiveDuring: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: HandMorph>>handleEvent: HandMorph>>processEvents WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: in Block: [ :h | ... you can find my code here http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~kilon/copyMethod/ Am I doing something wrong ? Just for your information I added 2 menu entries and 2 corresponding methods , one for Copy and one for Paste. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Benjamin < Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The menus are on AbstractNautilusUI class, protocol âmenusâ > > You can find how to move methods in AbstractTool. > I guess the copy will be there too :) > > Ben > > On 07 Dec 2013, at 23:16, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Check Mate in 2 moves. Well played my friend, well played. > > > :P > > > Ok I will bite , how I figure out the right click menu and the copy > function ? Which classes and methods should I look at ? Help me understand > and Santa Clause will bring the slice down your chimney. > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Benjamin < > Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Was not plan, but if someone propose a slice, it will get in :P >> >> Ben >> >> On 07 Dec 2013, at 22:53, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> thanks. Is there any chance this will make it into the right click menu ? >> Looks like quite essential to me. Also it would make it unnecessary to open >> a new nautilus window for the shake of copying to an another package. >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Benjamin < >> Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> drag and drop them holding shift (you should see a little red â+â) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On 07 Dec 2013, at 22:15, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey there I was wondering how to copy a couple of methods I have from >>> one class to another. I can't find anything that can do this from right >>> clicking the method. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue for Pharo2 needs review

by Stephan Eggermont

Downloaded 20628 & 288 VM, run on a Mavericks mac Browse the slice: Segmentation fault Mon Dec 9 10:12:26 2013 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 71adca113a9aff2876288927e5c1c86bf7ac13e2 Date: 2013-12-07 05:00:47 -0800 By: Philippe Back <philippeback(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14776 C stack backtrace: 0 Pharo 0x0019fdac reportStackState + 140 1 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x9b433deb _sigtramp + 43 2 ??? 0xffffffff 0x0 + 4294967295 Smalltalk stack dump: 0xbffb64e0 M DisplayScreen>forceToScreen: 0x1f5031f4: a(n) DisplayScreen 0xbffb64fc M [] in DisplayScreen>forceDamageToScreen: 0x1f5031f4: a(n) DisplayScreen

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk in a C World

by kilon alios

please note that generating dlls alone wont be enough , plugins are compiled against a runtime or specific libraries (a Plugin SDK) and Smalltalk MT would have to be able to do that in order to be a viable solution. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > You should think that they use their smalltalk for their projects. > > Stef > > On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:21 AM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How can people even know Smalltalk MT still exist with their website and > their communication ? > > I looked at other Smalltalks a while ago, for Smalltalk MT I clicked on > "what's new" on their website and I got that: > > <Screen Shot 2013-12-09 at 9.18.11 AM.png> > > Then I thought this Smalltalk was dead (nothing new in the past 4 years) > and I didn't look any further. > > > 2013/12/8 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> >> > Yes - still alive and kicking. But I'm sure you did not notice since >> there >> > are no "big" announcements or advertising for it. >> > ObjectConnect follows the "time is better invested into technology" >> strategy. >> > It is one of the most interesting Smalltalks ever implemented. >> >> http://www.objectconnect.com/stmt_overview.htm >> I like the idea that you can get 50kb applications. >> Now since this is a closed system and windows-centric. >> But I like that it shows that Smalltalk does not have to be the image >> centric way. >> >> > >> > The newest ST/MT 6.3 version (now 64 bit) is from end of November 2013 >> >> Now it is not a community thing. :) >> And the web site stop and 5.6 in 2009. >> >> Last time I talk to tarrick he told me that he could control the "no gc >> in the next 250 frames on PS2" >> but it was in 1998 :) >> >> >> Stef >> > > >

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo 3] Failing tests on Build Server

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 09 Dec 2013, at 09:38, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Linux: > ReleaseTest>>testUnknownProcesses > BlockClosureTest>>testOnForkErrorTakesLessThanOneSecond > > Win: > ZnHTTPSTests.>>testGetPharoVersion This is a problem with the networking infrastructure on the windows slave. Error Message cannot resolve âci.inria.fr' in other words, its a DNS lookup failure. There is not much that higher level code can do but to give up. > All: > ReleaseTest>>#testObsoleteBehaviors >

Dec. 9, 2013