December 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Commit rights to Pharo repositories

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi, I want to publish configurations for Pharo 3.0 http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30 Can you grant me commit rights? Could I be added to the Pharo team? username: hernan Cheers, HernÃ¡n

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 image

by Andreas Wacknitz

Am 29.12.2013 um 22:16 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > yeah, but I also remember a discussion of ânow, sources should be always (and just there) with vmâ¦ or the oppositeââ¦ > but I do not remember the result of that discussion and this could be a consequence of that. Marcus will know better for sure (letâs wait he is back from his holidays :) ) > I have installed the latest PharoVMâs on Mac and Windows. On Windows it works without the copy of the sources file in the âprogramâ folder; whereas in MacOS it needs a copy in the âApplicationâ folder. So in my eyes itâs at least inconsequent (and I donât like to have the sources file in the âApplicationâ folder). What it make even stranger is the fact that I only need this copy if I use a downloaded image (I regularly download Moose-5.0 and PetitParser images from the CI). My self-updated Pharo-3.0 works without it (on MacOS). Regards, Andreas > Esteban > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 22:10, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I remember that we had an issue already with it and I thought it was fixed. Now it slipped my mind. >> >> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:55, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >> >>> Right. >>> So it works when I copy the sources file to where the vm is. >>> >>> I used to keep that together with image since itâs tied to the image and not to the vm. >>> >>> need a bug report for that? >>> >>> Johan >>> >>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:43, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>>> It seems the search for the .sources fails. >>>> >>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thereâs a debug log I attach to this page. >>>>> According to the log, itâs in non-interactive modeâ¦ but Iâm launching it from the Mac Finder... >>>>> >>>>> I tried both stable and latest vm >>>>> >>>>> A download with the zeroconf scripts will work but if I try to put the vm and the image at those places I intend to work with, it breaks. >>>>> Mind that it does work with the 30526 image >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <PharoDebug.log> >>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is the latest âworkingâ pharo 3 image? >>>>>> >>>>>> Every recent build I try to download opens with a blank screen and I cannot do anything. >>>>>> The latest build I downloaded some time ago was 30526 and that one opens fineâ¦ >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> Johan >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 image

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeah, but I also remember a discussion of ânow, sources should be always (and just there) with vmâ¦ or the oppositeââ¦ but I do not remember the result of that discussion and this could be a consequence of that. Marcus will know better for sure (letâs wait he is back from his holidays :) ) Esteban On 29 Dec 2013, at 22:10, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I remember that we had an issue already with it and I thought it was fixed. Now it slipped my mind. > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:55, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > >> Right. >> So it works when I copy the sources file to where the vm is. >> >> I used to keep that together with image since itâs tied to the image and not to the vm. >> >> need a bug report for that? >> >> Johan >> >> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:43, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> It seems the search for the .sources fails. >>> >>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>> >>>> Thereâs a debug log I attach to this page. >>>> According to the log, itâs in non-interactive modeâ¦ but Iâm launching it from the Mac Finder... >>>> >>>> I tried both stable and latest vm >>>> >>>> A download with the zeroconf scripts will work but if I try to put the vm and the image at those places I intend to work with, it breaks. >>>> Mind that it does work with the 30526 image >>>> >>>> >>>> <PharoDebug.log> >>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What is the latest âworkingâ pharo 3 image? >>>>> >>>>> Every recent build I try to download opens with a blank screen and I cannot do anything. >>>>> The latest build I downloaded some time ago was 30526 and that one opens fineâ¦ >>>>> >>>>> Ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Johan >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Esteban Lorenzano

thatâs usually done by the integrators, but nothing prevents you to do it :) On 29 Dec 2013, at 21:47, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > Can everybody change the status of an issue? > > I would like to change 12521 from > Resolved (Fix Reviewed by the Monkey) > to > Resolved (Fix To Include) > > Or how does reviewing work? > > Nicolai

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I remember that we had an issue already with it and I thought it was fixed. Now it slipped my mind. On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:55, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Right. > So it works when I copy the sources file to where the vm is. > > I used to keep that together with image since itâs tied to the image and not to the vm. > > need a bug report for that? > > Johan > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:43, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> It seems the search for the .sources fails. >> >> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >> >>> Thereâs a debug log I attach to this page. >>> According to the log, itâs in non-interactive modeâ¦ but Iâm launching it from the Mac Finder... >>> >>> I tried both stable and latest vm >>> >>> A download with the zeroconf scripts will work but if I try to put the vm and the image at those places I intend to work with, it breaks. >>> Mind that it does work with the 30526 image >>> >>> >>> <PharoDebug.log> >>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the latest âworkingâ pharo 3 image? >>>> >>>> Every recent build I try to download opens with a blank screen and I cannot do anything. >>>> The latest build I downloaded some time ago was 30526 and that one opens fineâ¦ >>>> >>>> Ideas? >>>> >>>> Johan >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tagging #catalogContactInfo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:27, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > Is there any format for defining #catalogContactInfo contents? > For example > > ^ '[[Author:Walter White]] > [[e-mail: blabla(a)bla.com]] > [[website: http://www.www.www]]' Not really. but it could be good. > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n >

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tanker and Pharo3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks Guillermo. I do not really know because what is cool is to be able to load the compiler without having the compiler. I know you want that :). Now with tanker we have the question of how to handle the binary (probably inside an mcz package) and managing the fact that the code can be desynchronized from the binary. Stef > Hi guys! > > I was taking a look at tanker to use it to load packages on a mini image. And I found some difficulties :). > > - First, the code does not load well in Pharo3. There are some classes/traits that changed and the class extensions do not want to load. I fixed that by adding some stub classes with the same name. And I was able to load the code > > - Then, almost all tests fail. The same problem is in the CI job (https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Tanker/PHARO=30,VERSION=bleeding…) So, I was having a look at them. I fixed many, but many other things scape from my not so deep understanding of tanker: > > * it uses the old class builder. I changed that reference for the OldClassBuilderAdapter > * it tries to decompile code when sources are not available... So far I replaced that by the #codeForNoSource which actually does something different... > * there is a problem with extension methods and local selectors. I don't yet understand where they are being built. Probably it has to do with RPackage-Tanker integration. > * then some tanker tests make assumptions about the order of literals, which has changed (probably because of opal) > > > Is it worth to invest some hours/days in tanker? :) Can I help? I have my changes but I cannot commit them, should we move it to Pharo or PharoExtras? > > Guille

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus: Selection and Drag & Drop Redux

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

one of our problem is that the OS of the events are sometimes mapped to strange things like macRoman I do not what or simply ignored. This is on our todo to address that. Stef On 29 Dec 2013, at 18:29, Andreas Wacknitz <a.wacknitz(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Nicolai, > > I can confirm your problems as I have checked this on the latest Pharo-3.0 image. On the Mac platform you can select different items by means of the CMD key. > There is no equivalent on the Windows platform as the âWindows" key seems to be ignored (or caught by the OS). > > Regards, > Andreas > > Am 29.12.2013 um 17:55 schrieb Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > >> I am suprised multiselection is used at all. I could not get it to select what I want. >> I can only select one item, shift-click for another item and all items between are selected, too. >> And deselecting items in between is not possible. >> (Tested on Windows platform). Does multiselection (doing multiple select/deselect) working on >> a Mac? >> >> >> >> >> 2013/12/29 Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> >> The problem is that the drag and the selection are both triggered by mouse down. >> NewList fixes this by triggering drag on mousedown, and select on mouseup >> >> Ben >> >> On 29 Dec 2013, at 17:21, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >>> Issue 12534 >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12534 >>> >>> From the issue: >>> >>>> The workflow is awkward. It has been reported before, but still doesn't >>>> feel quite right. >>>> >>>> Use case: I'm hunting around for methods to re-categorize. I click this >>>> one, that one, another one. Okay, that's everything I need. I mouse down >>>> (whether Cmd is still pressed or not), to begin dragging my multiple >>>> selection, and the item I clicked on is de-selected, and so not included >>>> if I start dragging. >>>> >>>> I checked in the Mac Finder, and the way it works is that it processes >>>> drags on mouse down, but [de]selection on mouse up. This works much >>>> better. If I click a selected item to drag, it works, but if I release the >>>> mouse without dragging, it toggles the selection - much more useable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Cheers, >>> Sean >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-Selection-and-Drag-Drop-Redux-tp4732930.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> >

Dec. 29, 2013

FogBugz status change

by Nicolai Hess

Can everybody change the status of an issue? I would like to change 12521 from *Resolved (Fix Reviewed by the Monkey**)* *to* Resolved (Fix To Include) Or how does reviewing work? Nicolai

Dec. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus: Selection and Drag & Drop Redux

by Andreas Wacknitz

Nicolai, I can confirm your problems as I have checked this on the latest Pharo-3.0 image. On the Mac platform you can select different items by means of the CMD key. There is no equivalent on the Windows platform as the âWindows" key seems to be ignored (or caught by the OS). Regards, Andreas Am 29.12.2013 um 17:55 schrieb Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > I am suprised multiselection is used at all. I could not get it to select what I want. > I can only select one item, shift-click for another item and all items between are selected, too. > And deselecting items in between is not possible. > (Tested on Windows platform). Does multiselection (doing multiple select/deselect) working on > a Mac? > > > > > 2013/12/29 Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> > The problem is that the drag and the selection are both triggered by mouse down. > NewList fixes this by triggering drag on mousedown, and select on mouseup > > Ben > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 17:21, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > >> Issue 12534 >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12534 >> >> From the issue: >> >>> The workflow is awkward. It has been reported before, but still doesn't >>> feel quite right. >>> >>> Use case: I'm hunting around for methods to re-categorize. I click this >>> one, that one, another one. Okay, that's everything I need. I mouse down >>> (whether Cmd is still pressed or not), to begin dragging my multiple >>> selection, and the item I clicked on is de-selected, and so not included >>> if I start dragging. >>> >>> I checked in the Mac Finder, and the way it works is that it processes >>> drags on mouse down, but [de]selection on mouse up. This works much >>> better. If I click a selected item to drag, it works, but if I release the >>> mouse without dragging, it toggles the selection - much more useable. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-Selection-and-Drag-Drop-Redux-tp4732930.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

Dec. 29, 2013