November 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by Juraj Kubelka

OK, thanks. I have just try it on the classes. Cheers, Jura El 16-11-2013, a las 14:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> escribiÃ³: > Juraj, > > I think this is much simpler than that. > > Consider the scenario: > 1 - I manually find the package RoassalExtras and click on it. > 2 - Assume I type 'Roassal', _without_ pressing enter. I will have all the packages that contains the word 'Roassal' in them, but still have 'RoassalExtras' selected > 3 - I press enter, then the package Roassal is selected. > > This is the same thing I think for the find class option. > > Alexandre > > > On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> escribiÃ³: >> >>> >>> >>>> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) >>> >>> ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter >>> >>> Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is >>> Importer XML >>> Famix XML >>> ConfigurationOfXML >>> at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML >>> So typing XML is nice. >>> >>> Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :) >>> >> >> You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented. When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list. >> >> What if user do not press enter? Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape? >> >> Cheers, >> Jura >> >>> Stef >>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... >>>> >>>> Thanks again :) >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>>>>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>>>>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>>>>> >>>>>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jura >>>> >>> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by Alexandre Bergel

Juraj, I think this is much simpler than that. Consider the scenario: 1 - I manually find the package RoassalExtras and click on it. 2 - Assume I type 'Roassal', _without_ pressing enter. I will have all the packages that contains the word 'Roassal' in them, but still have 'RoassalExtras' selected 3 - I press enter, then the package Roassal is selected. This is the same thing I think for the find class option. Alexandre On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> escribiÃ³: > >> >> >>> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) >> >> ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter >> >> Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is >> Importer XML >> Famix XML >> ConfigurationOfXML >> at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML >> So typing XML is nice. >> >> Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :) >> > > You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented. When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list. > > What if user do not press enter? Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape? > > Cheers, > Jura > >> Stef >> >>> >>> Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... >>> >>> Thanks again :) >>> Ben >>> >>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>>>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>>>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>>>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>>>> >>>>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jura >>> >> > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by Juraj Kubelka

Sure :-) I have just asked you for some details. But anyway I will do it and the is best way to see if the idea is good and if I understand the idea. Cheers, Jura El 16-11-2013, a las 14:16, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> escribiÃ³: > juraj > > for the next Sprint adding back the typing select + enter => selecting effectively the entry. :) > > Stef > > > > > On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes, we will see :-) This is something to try, it is hard to guess if people use it :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Jura >> >> El 15-11-2013, a las 18:46, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: >> >>> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) >>> >>> Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... >>> >>> Thanks again :) >>> Ben >>> >>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>>>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>>>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>>>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>>>> >>>>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jura >>> >> >

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by Juraj Kubelka

Hi! El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> escribiÃ³: > > >> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) > > ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter > > Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is > Importer XML > Famix XML > ConfigurationOfXML > at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML > So typing XML is nice. > > Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :) > You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented. When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list. What if user do not press enter? Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape? Cheers, Jura > Stef > >> >> Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... >> >> Thanks again :) >> Ben >> >> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>>> >>>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jura >> >

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] SVG in Cairo

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, the famous tiger is indeed in SVG. What I meant actually, is SVG path. I am checking the Athens repo. Thanks, Alexandre On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:02 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Alexandre > > There is an SVG importer in the athens repo. > Now it is not complete but you can load many file already - it is better than the cade svg importer according to the CADE guys. > Some GSOC students tried to improve it but they duplicate it entirely so it is not easy to > see what has been added. > Now what was missing is elliptical curve and if I remember correclty igor was doing them at the image level > because cairo did not support them (from memory). > > Stef > >> Hi! >> >> Just wondering whether there is a way to represent SVG within Athens, in Pharo. >> There is a great deal of SVG description on the web. Using them in Athens would be great. >> >> Any hint where to start? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [issue tracker] Please review "fix review needed" issues

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes :) I agree with that. Now the problem is the amount of changes. Pharo is moving fast. Stef > So we now have an automatic system to check that a change does not break tests and even passes Code Critique. > > Nevertheless, this does *not* mean that any change that passes is good. (e.g. a change that just deletes all tests is fine for > the monkey). > > So we *need* people to look at proposed changes! > > Right now I feel that I decide far too many things. It would be very nice to have the input of more people. > > Marcus

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

juraj for the next Sprint adding back the typing select + enter => selecting effectively the entry. :) Stef On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, we will see :-) This is something to try, it is hard to guess if people use it :-) > > Cheers, > Jura > > El 15-11-2013, a las 18:46, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > >> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) >> >> Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... >> >> Thanks again :) >> Ben >> >> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>>> >>>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jura >> >

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus with package filter input box

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is Importer XML Famix XML ConfigurationOfXML at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML So typing XML is nice. Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :) Stef > > Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... > > Thanks again :) > Ben > > On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :) >> >> Alexandre >> >> Le 15-11-2013 Ã 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. >>> StÃ©phane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. >>> If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input >>> See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-b… >>> >>> <Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jura >

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] New builder for Roassal: building geographical maps

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

alexandre Check openstreetmap because I would love to have an openStreet map component in Pharo using Athens :) There is one topics about it in http://topics.pharo.org Stef > Yes we do :) more will come in a couple of days > > Alexandre > > Le 15-11-2013 Ã 18:02, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a Ã©crit : > >> Nice! >> >> Did you consider drawing the background map vectorially? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> During our pair coding session on Friday, we worked on a new builder for Roassal. >> >> Here is short example: >> >> >> | builder | >> builder := ROFranceMapBuilder new. >> builder shape circle size: 15; color: Color red; withLabel. >> builder showCities: #('Paris' 'Lyon' 'Marseille'). >> >> builder shape circle size: 25; color: Color blue; withLabel. >> builder show: 'Nice'. >> >> builder open >> >> It should produce: >> <Screen Shot 2013-11-15 at 4.53.30 PM.png> >> >> >> There is no reference to external files. It runs out of the box. >> >> In case you got a sudden need to press a like button or do some retweet, here a bit of material: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.543459092407359.1073741830.340543… >> https://twitter.com/objectprofile/status/401433558684008448 >> >> On our facebook account we have many more screenshots. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Critics Browser - behaviour with extensions

by btc＠openinworld.com

Nov. 16, 2013