November 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

by Eliot Miranda

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:03, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? > > No. I think the methods are not even in the image. > > > Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use > objectClass: and objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be fooled by > proxies. I really need to push this code through to Squeak trunk. Once > I've done that (Monday? it's thanksgiving here and its party time :-) ) > Pharo can perhaps adopt the code too. > > > Yes. but I wonder who will do that. It will for sure be faster to get that > into Pharo if someone (who is not me) submits it. > I'll either prepare a change set or submit. It'll get done. -- best, Eliot

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

by Marcus Denker

On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:03, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? No. I think the methods are not even in the image. > Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use objectClass: and objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be fooled by proxies. I really need to push this code through to Squeak trunk. Once I've done that (Monday? it's thanksgiving here and its party time :-) ) Pharo can perhaps adopt the code too. > Yes. but I wonder who will do that. It will for sure be faster to get that into Pharo if someone (who is not me) submits it. Marcus

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stepping through with GLORP Proxies

by Eliot Miranda

Does the Pharo debugger use the mirror primitives yet? Unless InstructionStream and ContextPart have been updated to use objectClass: and objectInstVarAt: et al then the debugger will be fooled by proxies. I really need to push this code through to Squeak trunk. Once I've done that (Monday? it's thanksgiving here and its party time :-) ) Pharo can perhaps adopt the code too. David, does the Interpreter support the mirror primitives yet? i.e. do the MirrorPrimitiveTests pass on the Interpreter now? On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Does anybody else have issues while stepping through GLORP Proxy objects > (collections in this case)? > > I simply can't use this feature unless the proxied collection was already > materialized. > > I can't reproduce it right now, but it bites me everytime is step through > blocks, because stepping into is really annoying :) > > > Does anybody else have the same issue? > > This is Pharo 2. > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > -- best, Eliot

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

by phil＠highoctane.be

I do not. Scoped browsing is better for me. Search beats Prem a Fe organization. Ask Google. Search is like addition for them Phil On Friday, November 29, 2013, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote > >> I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project are > >> not collapsed. E.g. if I have MyProject-Core and MyProject-Platform, > they > >> will be siblings in the tree, instead of both under MyProject. It seems > >> like it would be more useful to have > >> - MyProject > >> - Core > >> - Platform > >> in the tree > > > > Bump... thoughts? > > I do not care and i'm not sure that I want to have three levels all the > time > project > package > tags/categories > > especially since project do not exist. > > For now just what we have but fully working would be good. > > -- --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> So far you cannot import, but only export SVG in Roassal. I know Athens has an SVG importer, but I have faced some problems with it. and do not expect it to be fixed soon. Because we have other priorities. Stef

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Tree

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Nov 29, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> I noticed that right now, separate packages within the same project are >> not collapsed. E.g. if I have MyProject-Core and MyProject-Platform, they >> will be siblings in the tree, instead of both under MyProject. It seems >> like it would be more useful to have >> - MyProject >> - Core >> - Platform >> in the tree > > Bump... thoughts? I do not care and i'm not sure that I want to have three levels all the time project package tags/categories especially since project do not exist. For now just what we have but fully working would be good.

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'd say Pharo is fitting the bill for me. What would you love it to have?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>From a business perspective, I would love to have - multi windowing and better widgets set. - UI builder Stef > Check > > http://mir.aculo.us/2013/11/27/5-things-ive-learned-in-5-years-of-running-a… > > Seriously, I am interested in your feedback. > > Shoot! > > Phil >

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug font windows

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > Exactly, it should not be related to fonts in the Moose image given that the fonts are in the image. > > Another thought, it could be that > newFaceFromExternalMemory:index: > fails somehow .. (maybe freetype plugin unavail?) > > I tried to reproduce the problem locally, but I cannot. So, my feeling also goes towards the VM. Could they try with the latest Win VM? where can I find it? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

by Alexandre Bergel

So far you cannot import, but only export SVG in Roassal. I know Athens has an SVG importer, but I have faced some problems with it. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Nov 29, 2013, at 2:58 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Very true , now I am studying how to import , export and display svg files. Learning never stops and Roassal code is certainly helpful. > > On Friday, November 29, 2013, wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Ok I have verified and indeed its not an Athens problem. My bad. The position of the morph is reported at 5@30 and the not the correct 0@0. So it looks like Morphic for some strange reason it offsets it. >>> >>> I knew about translateBy but I did not know about restoreAfter. so thank you. >>> >>> I prefer my version of the code because it makes clearer what I am trying to do. However ideally because I am drawing a box inside another box the best way would be to follow your approach and scale the second box using one shape instead of two I am currently doing. But thats the price I am paying from not knowing exactly how to do this. >>> >>> Also trying to painstakingly find the correct transform and scale values requires A LOT of testing . This is why I find a vector editor for Athens and Pharo absolutely essential. No coding can beat designing via mouse. >>> >>> On the other hand I could use Inkscape and import the svg to Athens , which what I am about to research. Designing all GUI elements by code is a very bad idea, but no less a learning experience. >>> >>> I will most probably move to Roassal too. >>> >>> >> why? >> Just continue and learn. >> >> >> > There is a lot to learn from Roassal :)

Nov. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coordinates problem with Athens and Morphic while coding Hyperion

by kilon alios

Very true , now I am studying how to import , export and display svg files. Learning never stops and Roassal code is certainly helpful. On Friday, November 29, 2013, wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > Ok I have verified and indeed its not an Athens problem. My bad. The position of the morph is reported at 5@30 and the not the correct 0@0. So it looks like Morphic for some strange reason it offsets it. > > I knew about translateBy but I did not know about restoreAfter. so thank you. > > I prefer my version of the code because it makes clearer what I am trying to do. However ideally because I am drawing a box inside another box the best way would be to follow your approach and scale the second box using one shape instead of two I am currently doing. But thats the price I am paying from not knowing exactly how to do this. > > Also trying to painstakingly find the correct transform and scale values requires A LOT of testing . This is why I find a vector editor for Athens and Pharo absolutely essential. No coding can beat designing via mouse. > > On the other hand I could use Inkscape and import the svg to Athens , which what I am about to research. Designing all GUI elements by code is a very bad idea, but no less a learning experience. > > I will most probably move to Roassal too. > > > why? > Just continue and learn. > > > > There is a lot to learn from Roassal :) >

Nov. 29, 2013