November 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box

by Marcus Denker

On 24 Nov 2013, at 15:17, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I think the following should be part of Pharo: > SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 > The issue was closed by the author: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179 Therefore I guess he has reasons not to want it in Pharo in the current state. Marcus

Nov. 24, 2013

SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I think the following should be part of Pharo: SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 I have been using for some times already and it works pretty well. I have also reviewed the code. This slice makes me much much more productive. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus no longer guards against changed methods

by Stephan Eggermont

Sven wrote: >This is pretty importart, I lost some changes already. Me too. 12223 We already had a discussion about this. The current approach definitely was not the result of that discussion. We need to revert to the modal behavior, mixing editing with navigation history is not clean. Stephan

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Patches for Pharo packages you are maintaining

by Frank Shearar

On 24 November 2013 09:28, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Lorenz KÃ¶hl <lorenz(a)quub.de> wrote: > >>>>> So registering on Pharo tracker *never* worked for me, since I try, >>>>> before the summer. >>>> In the end I think is was a mistake to use fogbugz. For sure itâs nice for companies, but >>>> for open sourse projects it just does not work with a closed bug tracker. >>>> >>>> Now the question is what is the effort to move to yet another one? >>> I do not like fogbugz but I would not change now. >>> Let us >>> - make it easy for people to log >> >> The Racket programming language (racket-lang.org) has in its IDE DrRacket a menu item >> - Submit bug report >> >> Details about the system and a description of the bug is gathered and sent of to a bugs mailing list as well as creating an issue in a bug tracker. This way you get the issue number, a possible discussion thread about the bug/enhancement and any user can take part. IMHO this is the _right_ way to do it. > > Long long time ago all the bugs could be submitted from Squeak itself (way before racket even started to exist) and we add a tool > to crawl the emails and sort the bugs and it was a lot of work. Ah, good old BFAV (Bug Fix Archive Viewer). Helping maintain that was the first thing I actually did for the community (as opposed to lurking). frank > So the Right way is something to evaluate and learn. > >> >> Is there something similar for pharo? > > No but it was planned now if people can publish bug at a fast rate (and may be there are not bug) our question is: is it really reasonable to overwhelm with bugs :) > >> Contributing changes this way might get more complicated though, but possible. > >

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slot class builder: Anonymous class modification

by Frank Shearar

On 24 November 2013 00:35, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 24 November 2013 01:20, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> 2013/11/23 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >> > On 23 November 2013 21:26, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> imo, a better term to use for it would be 'private class' , because >> >> >> anonymous is a bit fuzzy. >> >> >> > I disagree. Anonymous classes is the term that has been used for >> >> > over >> >> > two decades. It means, literally, a class that has no name because >> >> > it is >> >> > not in Smalltalk (or in a top-level environment if the dialect has >> >> > namespaces). This is not at all fuzzy. Private class means >> >> > something quite >> >> > different, a class that is private to some environment, e.g. a class >> >> > nested >> >> > within another class as occurs in SmalltalkAgents or Newspeak. >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> Anonymous = without name. >> >> There's not much to add to it. >> >> > That's the point. Now what is practical implications of it? >> > Think, how far you can go with anonymous versus private class. >> > >> > If you deny anonymous classes from being private, >> > then you'll immediately hit many problems with tools, >> > which working with public classes and expecting them to have a name. >> > And i don't have to go deep to point on problems: just imagine that you >> > did >> > a change to such 'anonymous' class, now since it is public, all tools is >> > notified about this change, including change logger.. and my question, >> > what >> > you going to log into .changes file in such case? >> >> I can see your point. But then just say that "Anonymous classes are >> private". >> Just don't change the name. Anonymous classes are a well know concept >> used through piles of literature. > > > I am not after changing names here (for naming sake), but > more for labeling things properly conceptually. > Because "anonymous" carries little or no implications regarding tools or > environment, > while "private" makes things much more clear. This is why i think it is less > fuzzy. Well, surely private classes can have names? "Anonymous" might imply "private", but you could well hand that class around, making it "private in the sense that you need to be given a reference to it". Anonymity and privacy are separate concerns. frank >> E.g. In Java the compiler creates anonymous classes everytime you >> directly instantiate an Interface. >> >> ej myObject.schedule(new Runnable {...}); >> >> Regards, >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slot class builder: Anonymous class modification

by phil＠highoctane.be

Like this: interface Selector { boolean end() ; Object current() ; void next() ; } class Sequence { private Object[ ] seq ; private int next =0 ; public Sequence(int size) { seq=new Object[size] ; } public void add(Object o) { if (next<seq.length) { seq[next] = o ; next++ ; } } public Selector getSelector( ) { return new Selector( ) { private int index=0 ; public boolean end() { return index==next ; } public Object current() { return seq[index] ; } public void next() { index++ ; } } ; } } class TestSequence { public static void main(String[ ] arg) { Sequence sRef=new Sequence(10) ; for (int i=0 ;i<5 ;i++) sRef.add((âstring numero â+i)) ; Selector select=sRef.getSelector() ; while( !select.end()) { System.out.println((String) (select.current())) ; select.next() ; } } } Or this button.addActionListener( new ActionListener() { public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e) { System.out.println(e.getSource()) ; } } } } On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > In Java, Anonymous classes are classes that literally have no explicit > name. They are used as replacement for closures. > > closure = new Closure() { > public void do(Object object) { > ... > } > } > closure.do(42); > > A side effect of this construct is that the class is only visible from > within the method in which it is defined. So, "anonymous" as a term > describes only one facet of the concept. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> So I'm confused. >> >> what does it means in Java? >> What is the meaning (I know that anonymous are the one with $ in the name >> when looking at them from the Java bycode point of view) but beside that? >> >> >> >> >> Indeed. Same for listeners etc. >> >> Anonymous class has indeed a very clear meaning to me and to any student >> that has been exposed to Java (which means "a huge lot"). >> >> Phil >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo < >> emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> 2013/11/23 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >>> > On 23 November 2013 21:26, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> >>> >> >> imo, a better term to use for it would be 'private class' , because >>> >> >> anonymous is a bit fuzzy. >>> >>> >> > I disagree. Anonymous classes is the term that has been used for >>> over >>> >> > two decades. It means, literally, a class that has no name because >>> it is >>> >> > not in Smalltalk (or in a top-level environment if the dialect has >>> >> > namespaces). This is not at all fuzzy. Private class means >>> something quite >>> >> > different, a class that is private to some environment, e.g. a >>> class nested >>> >onyl> > within another class as occurs in SmalltalkAgents or Newspeak. >>> >> >>> >> +1 >>> >> >>> >> Anonymous = without name. >>> >> There's not much to add to it. >>> >>> > That's the point. Now what is practical implications of it? >>> > Think, how far you can go with anonymous versus private class. >>> > >>> > If you deny anonymous classes from being private, >>> > then you'll immediately hit many problems with tools, >>> > which working with public classes and expecting them to have a name. >>> > And i don't have to go deep to point on problems: just imagine that >>> you did >>> > a change to such 'anonymous' class, now since it is public, all tools >>> is >>> > notified about this change, including change logger.. and my question, >>> what >>> > you going to log into .changes file in such case? >>> >>> I can see your point. But then just say that "Anonymous classes are >>> private". >>> Just don't change the name. Anonymous classes are a well know concept >>> used through piles of literature. >>> E.g. In Java the compiler creates anonymous classes everytime you >>> directly instantiate an Interface. >>> >>> ej myObject.schedule(new Runnable {...}); >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Patches for Pharo packages you are maintaining

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 24/11/2013 10:23, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > he, no, we are not going to re-migrate anytime soon :) As I am concerned, I was just complaining about an initial difficulty to register myself. No opinion on the bug tracker itself. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Nov. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slot class builder: Anonymous class modification

by Tudor Girba

In Java, Anonymous classes are classes that literally have no explicit name. They are used as replacement for closures. closure = new Closure() { public void do(Object object) { ... } } closure.do(42); A side effect of this construct is that the class is only visible from within the method in which it is defined. So, "anonymous" as a term describes only one facet of the concept. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > So I'm confused. > > what does it means in Java? > What is the meaning (I know that anonymous are the one with $ in the name > when looking at them from the Java bycode point of view) but beside that? > > > > > Indeed. Same for listeners etc. > > Anonymous class has indeed a very clear meaning to me and to any student > that has been exposed to Java (which means "a huge lot"). > > Phil > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo < > emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2013/11/23 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >> > On 23 November 2013 21:26, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> imo, a better term to use for it would be 'private class' , because >> >> >> anonymous is a bit fuzzy. >> >> >> > I disagree. Anonymous classes is the term that has been used for >> over >> >> > two decades. It means, literally, a class that has no name because >> it is >> >> > not in Smalltalk (or in a top-level environment if the dialect has >> >> > namespaces). This is not at all fuzzy. Private class means >> something quite >> >> > different, a class that is private to some environment, e.g. a class >> nested >> >onyl> > within another class as occurs in SmalltalkAgents or Newspeak. >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> Anonymous = without name. >> >> There's not much to add to it. >> >> > That's the point. Now what is practical implications of it? >> > Think, how far you can go with anonymous versus private class. >> > >> > If you deny anonymous classes from being private, >> > then you'll immediately hit many problems with tools, >> > which working with public classes and expecting them to have a name. >> > And i don't have to go deep to point on problems: just imagine that you >> did >> > a change to such 'anonymous' class, now since it is public, all tools is >> > notified about this change, including change logger.. and my question, >> what >> > you going to log into .changes file in such case? >> >> I can see your point. But then just say that "Anonymous classes are >> private". >> Just don't change the name. Anonymous classes are a well know concept >> used through piles of literature. >> E.g. In Java the compiler creates anonymous classes everytime you >> directly instantiate an Interface. >> >> ej myObject.schedule(new Runnable {...}); >> >> Regards, >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 24, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30592 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 24, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 956cac: 30592

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 956cac73f7e635e47747477fb558fc537df07edb https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/956cac73f7e635e47747477f… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-11-24 (Sun, 24 Nov 2013) Changed paths: A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/disableModuleLoading.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/forgetModule_.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/listBuiltinModule_.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/listBuiltinModules.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/listLoadedModule_.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/listLoadedModules.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/loadModule_.st A Deprecated30.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/unloadModule_.st M Kernel.package/Exception.class/class/exceptionselector/%2C.st A Kernel.package/Exception.class/class/exceptionselector/-.st M Kernel.package/ExceptionSet.class/instance/exceptionselector/%2C.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSet.class/instance/exceptionselector/-.st M Kernel.package/ExceptionSet.class/instance/exceptionselector/handles_.st M Kernel.package/ExceptionSet.class/instance/private/add_.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/README.md A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/definition.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/instance/exceptionselector/-.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/instance/exceptionselector/handles_.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/instance/initialization/initialize.st A Kernel.package/ExceptionSetWithExclusions.class/instance/private/addExclusion_.st R Kernel.package/TimeStamp.class/class/instance creation/current.st A KernelTests.package/ExceptionTests.class/instance/testing-handling/testHandlingExceptionSetWithExclusion.st A KernelTests.package/ExceptionTests.class/instance/testing-handling/testHandlingWhenThereIsSomeExclusionButDontApplies.st A KernelTests.package/ExceptionTests.class/instance/testing-handling/testHandlingWithExclusion.st A KernelTests.package/ExceptionTests.class/instance/testing-handling/testHandlingWithSeveralExclusions.st A KernelTests.package/ExceptionTests.class/instance/testing-handling/testHandlingWithSeveralExclusionsAndExceptionSetsHandling.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script247.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30592.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/disableModuleLoading.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/forgetModule_.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/listBuiltinModule_.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/listBuiltinModules.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/listLoadedModule_.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/listLoadedModules.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/loadModule_.st R System-Support.package/SmalltalkImage.class/instance/modules/unloadModule_.st Log Message: ----------- 30592 12227 Move System-Support deprecated methods to Deprecated30 package https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12227 12198 should remove TimeStamp Step2 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12198 12202 Exception Handling improvement to ignore some specific Exception https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12202 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30592.zip

Nov. 24, 2013