November 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub changes

by kilon alios

Thank you Nicolas , Smalltalkhub became much better, love it, keep up the great work. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi! > > Here's the list of changes for this release: > > - faster loading by serving pre-compiled css files > - fix for adding team members > - Commit hooks are now fully working and configurable in the project > settings page > - Fix for the timeline events in the user's homepage > - Better diffs (it seems to still have issues) > > > Some words about the new infrastructure: > > - Smalltalkhub is now hosted by Inria > - The DB is backed up daily > - SmalltalkHub is now monitored and automatically restarted whenever > something wrong happens (with a crazy monkey that could kill the > process randomly during RMoD's office hours) > - Monitoring emails are now sent to RMoD > > Cheers, > Nico > > >

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to update Deep into Pharo Chapter

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > the account creation form asks me for "INRIA Research team" as mandatory. > Should I put something like Pharo? Or is something more specific? RMoD -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to update Deep into Pharo Chapter

by Gabriel Cotelli

Hi Damien, the account creation form asks me for "INRIA Research team" as mandatory. Should I put something like Pharo? Or is something more specific? On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Is there some way to update a Deep into Pharo Chapter? I made with the > help > > of Sven a new extension to the exception handling and I want to > contribute > > some words about it in the exceptions chapter. > > > thank you for your work. You can create an account on > https://gforge.inria.fr/ and send me your username. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal Question

by Alexandre Bergel

Does the following helps? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | view shape morph | view := ROView new. 100 timesRepeat: [ shape := ROEllipse new size: 40; color: (Color green alpha: 0.5). view add: shape element ]. view elements do: [ :el | el translateTo: 500 atRandom @ 500 atRandom ]. morph := ROAthensMorph on: view. morph extent: 500 @ 500. morph openInWindow -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= If you do not use Athens, then replace âROAthensMorphâ by âROMorphâ Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > Hi all, > > does anybody knows how to integrate a ROView inside a Morphic GUI ? > > Regards, > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to update Deep into Pharo Chapter

by Damien Cassou

Hi Gabriel, On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there some way to update a Deep into Pharo Chapter? I made with the help > of Sven a new extension to the exception handling and I want to contribute > some words about it in the exceptions chapter. thank you for your work. You can create an account on https://gforge.inria.fr/ and send me your username. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Nov. 26, 2013

How to update Deep into Pharo Chapter

by Gabriel Cotelli

Hi, Is there some way to update a Deep into Pharo Chapter? I made with the help of Sven a new extension to the exception handling and I want to contribute some words about it in the exceptions chapter. Gabriel

Nov. 26, 2013

SmalltalkHub changes

by Nicolas Petton

Hi! Here's the list of changes for this release: - faster loading by serving pre-compiled css files - fix for adding team members - Commit hooks are now fully working and configurable in the project settings page - Fix for the timeline events in the user's homepage - Better diffs (it seems to still have issues) Some words about the new infrastructure: - Smalltalkhub is now hosted by Inria - The DB is backed up daily - SmalltalkHub is now monitored and automatically restarted whenever something wrong happens (with a crazy monkey that could kill the process randomly during RMoD's office hours) - Monitoring emails are now sent to RMoD Cheers, Nico

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus no longer guards against changed methods

by Stephan Eggermont

Sven wrote: >Technically, they are not lost, just hidden in the history of the browser. >But annoying nonetheless. It looks like the nautilus browser history is weak. Move around a bit and the change is no longer reachable. Are the changes stored somewhere else? Stephan

Nov. 26, 2013

Roassal Question

by Goubier Thierry

Hi all, does anybody knows how to integrate a ROView inside a Morphic GUI ? Regards, Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Nov. 26, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Understanding Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

It is indeed. Athens offers a nice way to build path. Once this will be fully integrated in Roassal, we will have a flying machine. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeap thank you , not only anti-aliasing works now but every look way cooler, looks like Athens is quite an enhancement. > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Ah okay. Then, you need to load the package RoassalAthens from the repository of Roassal. But Smalltalkhub is down right now. Here is a mcz: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/TMP/RoassalAthens-AlexandreBer… > > Load this mcz file (e.g., drag and drop it in your Pharo window), then execute "ROPlatform setCurrent: 'athens'. â and you should get antialiasing. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:47 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > ROPlatform setCurrent: 'athens'. > > > > gives me -> KeyNotFound: key 'athens' not found in Dictionary > > > > 'Athens' fails too. > > > > I can verify lack of anti-aliasing also on win7. > > > > I cant find an option to set anti-aliasing or Athens as backend in Easel . > > > > Loaded Roassal today with -> > > > > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load. > > > > the image I am using is version 30585. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Yes I am interested in Amber Roassal and also Roassal3d. Mostly on Amber Roassal because I want to target tablets and phones and since I have no desire to go through the App stores, javascript is my best option. > > > > We are in sync > > > > > Another thing I have observed is that in all examples there is no anti-aliasing which I find very weird because my vector editor which uses Athens as well, has anti-aliased lines. Why is that ? > > > > Strange. Have you tried to execute âROPlatform setCurrent: âathensââ. You can use the easel to set the Athens canvas. > > Else, simply use the Moose image, it comes with Athens and Roassal properly installed. > > > > > I am very excited about Roassal , the more I look at the code and the documentation the more I realize how flexible it is. > > > > Thanks. We took care of having a lean and clean design. Although we are quite satisfied, it is far from representing our ideal yet. One think I would like to remove, is the rendering loop, having it just above Athens, but below Roassal. We will work on this in January I think. > > > > > Is Roassal3d part of the Roassal project or is it an outside project ? > > > > It is a new and different project. > > > > > Also do you plan integrating with Spec ? Will Roassal be a backend for Spec ? > > > > We have no plan for this right now. Glamour is well integrated with Roassal. It should be easy to do it with Spec. > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > So I took your advice and gave a good look to Roassal to learn more about how to use Athens. First I want to congratulate the coders, I was expecting a simple visualisation library for object graphs and what I see is a full blown graphics library that can be used for many diffirent kinds of graphical illustrations. > > > > > > Thanks for your nice words :-) > > > > > > > I still however trying to understand the end goal of Roassal , is there an end goal or is it generally code visualisation ? > > > > > > The goal of Roassal is getting broader with the time. The main objective of Roassal is to be a platform for data visualisation. So, as soon as you have a bunch of data (e.g., plenty of numbers or any arbitrary objects), then Roassal should give you the tools to visualize and interact with your data. > > > > > > Roassal is slowly moving from a tool for end-user to a platform on which domain specific languages can be created. This is an important point when reusing visualizations (e.g., ROTreeMapBuilder, ROMapBuilder, ROMondrianViewBuilder are all compelling examples). > > > > > > Roassal is currently being ported to Amber, which will probably broaden the vision behind Roassal. Early examples may be found on: http://pestefo.github.io/roamber/# > > > > > > > > > > Also I wanted to ask if Roassal can do visual coding. By that I mean visualize not only objects but messages inside methods so the users with drag and drop code in a visual way. > > > > > > Yes, Roassal is made for that. If there is something that Roassal does not allow you to do, then let us know, we are a whole team ready to polish Roassal. > > > > > > > I took a look at the examples but I see nowhere the use of bezier curves , why is that ? > > > > > > There is a few. > > > > > > Try: > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > "Source code: ROMondrianExample>>bezierCurveOn:" > > > "Preambule. It includes the initialization. " > > > | view rawView | > > > rawView := ROView new. > > > view := ROMondrianViewBuilder view: rawView. > > > "-------------" > > > "-------------" > > > > > > view shape circle size: 10. > > > view nodes: (Collection withAllSubclasses). > > > view shape bezierLine. > > > view edgesFrom: #superclass. > > > view radialTreeLayout. > > > view center. > > > > > > "-------------" > > > "-------------" > > > "Below is the initiation of the menu and opening the visualization" > > > ROEaselMorphic new populateMenuOn: view. > > > view open > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > > Have a look at the class ROSplineExample > > > It does not contains many examples, but you get enough to build appealing visualization (e.g., https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.511442275609041.1073741827.340543… ) > > > > > > More screenshots are available on: https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Nov. 26, 2013