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[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30537 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 2, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 356024: 30537

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 35602410a5ac73693c48facac0a6ca9e5a47a64d https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/35602410a5ac73693c48faca… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-11-02 (Sat, 02 Nov 2013) Changed paths: A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script192.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30537.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st A SmartSuggestions.package/SugsExtractStatements.class/README.md A SmartSuggestions.package/SugsExtractStatements.class/definition.st A SmartSuggestions.package/SugsExtractStatements.class/instance/accessing/label.st A SmartSuggestions.package/SugsExtractStatements.class/instance/execution/execute.st A SmartSuggestions.package/SugsExtractStatements.class/instance/private/privateCalculateInterval.st M 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Nov. 2, 2013

Github and Pharo

by kilon alios

So any information on how Pharo can be used with Github ? all I have is this https://github.com/dalehenrich/FSGit I dont need much, just basic git pull, push, clone, add and rm should do fine for starter. But of course I am interesting into learning what can be done, what is available , who needs help with what. Github is something really important for me, so I am willing to contribute as much I can into bringing Pharo closer to it. My interest is using Github in place of smalltalkhub and squeaksource. I was planning to implement something like an App Store (not the purchase system) for Pharo libraries and I would love to use github as a backend to it and git of course.

Nov. 2, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30536 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 2, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core] bc6f9f: 30536

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: bc6f9fd23ae2df4d3d9f24451998f27f2fa881b9 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/bc6f9fd23ae2df4d3d9f2445… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-11-02 (Sat, 02 Nov 2013) Changed paths: M Morphic-Base.package/Paragraph.class/instance/selection/characterBlockAtPoint_.st M Morphic-Base.package/Paragraph.class/instance/selection/characterBlockForIndex_.st M Morphic-Base.package/TextComposer.class/instance/composition/composeLinesFrom_to_delta_into_priorLines_atY_textStyle_text_container_wantsColumnBreaks_.st M Morphic-Base.package/TextComposer.class/instance/protocol/multiComposeLinesFrom_to_delta_into_priorLines_atY_textStyle_text_container_wantsColumnBreaks_.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script191.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30536.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st R Tools.package/ObjectExplorer.class/class/tools registry/registerToolsOn_.st M Tools.package/ObjectExplorerWrapper.class/instance/accessing/icon.st Log Message: ----------- 30536 12030 Incorporate Squeak CharacterScanner clean-up https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12030 (Step 1/2) 12053 Smalltalk tools remove: #objectExplorer https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12053 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30536.zip

Nov. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub is down

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:21 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > and its alive again ! > > If anyone cares about my personal opinion, and I hope not many people do , I think it would be better for Pharoers to embrace Github. Not because smalltalkhub is more prone to crashes , not because it has much less features, but because of the amount of exposer it can give to our community. that's our path in the long term... now it is not easy to move our tools, etc. (and specially our culture), so it will take time... and in the mean time, smalltalkhub has to work properly :) > > I think that if more and more Github users, and there are tons of them out there, starting seeing Pharo project popping around like mushrooms , they may ask the question "What the hell is Pharo" and maybe just maybe this bring more people to our side that may try Pharo , love it and want to help us make it more awesome. > > So if we could make committing to Gihub as convenient as committing to Smalltalkhub then its a matter of porting projects to it. Imagine what would happen if one of those great smalltalkhub projects became the project of the month for Github. yes, IMNSHO, github (or any other of the services around, but github is the most popular) is the way to go because tons of good reasons (and one of them is that we should stop spending time in something that others can solve for us). but as I said... it will take time :) > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 02 Nov 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > > > > >> On 02 Nov 2013, at 05:51, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> > >> Something is fundamentally wrong here. > > > > Yes. And it is hurting the trust people have in smalltalkhub. This is not the way to promote the community either. > > > > I hope there are at least monitoring and auto-restart services running! > > > > Johan > > I suspect that the problem is that a database (Mongo DB) is involved so that before each (potentially automatic) restart a human has to make sure that the database is not corrupt. If the application/webapp and the DB are really very well separated then that should be less of a problem. > > That being said, the situation should definitively be improved ;-) > > >

Nov. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub is down

by phil＠highoctane.be

What kind of thing creates that semaphore saturation ? Just curious, Phil

Nov. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub is down

by phil＠highoctane.be

Load the filetree configuration from the configuration browser (Pharo 2.0 here) and you'll be good to go. Some more here: https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree It works with any git repo. With the filtetree:// repository, it will put the files in your local workspace. Then you can use whatever git client to commit and push stuff out. I do use SourceTree from Atlassian successfully on both OSX and Windows8. Sample (simple) repo: https://github.com/philippeback/filetreedemo in case you want to see what you'll get out of this. This is all nice and well but frankly, basic Mczs aren't that bad after all :-) Phil

Nov. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub is down

by kilon alios

For me its not even a question of willing to contribute. The project I am working on will need convenient ways of distributing libraries and Github was always on the top of my list, so I was planning on working on this anyway. But yes I will start a new thread for discussing this. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the suggestion. I am happy you are excited about the promise of > GitHub. > > The only thing left to do is to make it happen, and I kindly invite you to > join the others interested in precisely making it happen. Just send a > message around showing your availability to code in this direction, and I > am sure that people will point you to what is left to do. > > Doru > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:21 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> and its alive again ! >> >> If anyone cares about my personal opinion, and I hope not many people do >> , I think it would be better for Pharoers to embrace Github. Not because >> smalltalkhub is more prone to crashes , not because it has much less >> features, but because of the amount of exposer it can give to our >> community. >> >> I think that if more and more Github users, and there are tons of them >> out there, starting seeing Pharo project popping around like mushrooms , >> they may ask the question "What the hell is Pharo" and maybe just maybe >> this bring more people to our side that may try Pharo , love it and want to >> help us make it more awesome. >> >> So if we could make committing to Gihub as convenient as committing to >> Smalltalkhub then its a matter of porting projects to it. Imagine what >> would happen if one of those great smalltalkhub projects became the project >> of the month for Github. >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>wrote: >> >>> >>> On 02 Nov 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >> On 02 Nov 2013, at 05:51, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Something is fundamentally wrong here. >>> > >>> > Yes. And it is hurting the trust people have in smalltalkhub. This is >>> not the way to promote the community either. >>> > >>> > I hope there are at least monitoring and auto-restart services running! >>> > >>> > Johan >>> >>> I suspect that the problem is that a database (Mongo DB) is involved so >>> that before each (potentially automatic) restart a human has to make sure >>> that the database is not corrupt. If the application/webapp and the DB are >>> really very well separated then that should be less of a problem. >>> >>> That being said, the situation should definitively be improved ;-) >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Nov. 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub is down

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 02 Nov 2013, at 12:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > >> >>> On 02 Nov 2013, at 05:51, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Something is fundamentally wrong here. >> >> Yes. And it is hurting the trust people have in smalltalkhub. This is not the way to promote the community either. >> >> I hope there are at least monitoring and auto-restart services running! >> >> Johan > > I suspect that the problem is that a database (Mongo DB) is involved so that before each (potentially automatic) restart a human has to make sure that the database is not corrupt. If the application/webapp and the DB are really very well separated then that should be less of a problem. the problem is external semaphores saturation and errors while cleaning them. Now, the real problem is that shit always happens when there is no one available to provide a real fix, so for now we are just restarting the service each time it crashes, and we will (bah, Nico will) provide a real solution after holidays :) Esteban > > That being said, the situation should definitively be improved ;-) > >

Nov. 2, 2013