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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 5ee353: 30492

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 5ee353e0218a2a3e9fd9af17e6b311bfd710622b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5ee353e0218a2a3e9fd9af17… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-10-16 (Wed, 16 Oct 2013) Changed paths: M HudsonBuildTools20.package/HDTestReport.class/instance/private/beginTestCase_time_.st A Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/system startup/shutDown.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/author.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/authorAlias.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/authorAlias_.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/author_.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/testing/hasAuthor.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/testing/hasAuthorAlias.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/author.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/authorAlias.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/authorAlias_.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/stamp values/author_.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGNamedDefinition.class/class/annotations/authorAliasKey.st A Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGNamedDefinition.class/class/annotations/authorKey.st M Ring-Tests-Kernel.package/RGClassDefinitionTest.class/instance/testing/testWithComment.st M Ring-Tests-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinitionTest.class/instance/testing/testCommentWithoutAuthor.st M Ring-Tests-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinitionTest.class/instance/testing/testNewComment.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script147.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30492.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30492 11907 add Nautilus to shutDownList https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11907 11906 HDTestReport measures the wrong duration https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11906 5548 author should be added to RGMethodDefinition and authors to RGClassDefinition https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/5548/ http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30492.zip

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ann] system attraction view

by Tudor Girba

System Attraction is pretty, but slow due to the complexity of the force based layout. Doru On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > > But very slow even on small examples ... > > Do you use a magic trick to enhance the performance ? > > Not really. > > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

read the design pattern smalltalk companion book there is a undo/redo based on iterator and command. On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:46 PM, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > sounds fun. I would love to see an undo system that does not make my head explode and do I dare say with some documentation included :D > > If that will be the case then I will love to implement this feature into the undo history, so that everyone is happy.

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] default monospaced code font

by Goubier Thierry

Le 16/10/2013 15:05, dimitris chloupis a Ã©crit : > > Blender also has very nice GUI, used to be awful at it, but a few years > ago they committed the biggest Coding Sin, they rewrote the software and > old GUI was thrown away. Its no Softimage but its a good example none > the less. Definitely much better than Pharo. Hum. I'm utterly lost in the Blender GUI. The fact I'm trying it on a netbook with a 11"6 screen and no keypad has probably something to do with it: you can't even use it without going into the options and remapping the keyboard shortcuts... And all that wasted space! So count me as not impressed by that GUI. Maybe as a good power user GUI, for someone who has a 30" display, a full size keyboard, a mouse and invested the time to learn it. The GUI that accomodates beginners and power user on a highly complex system is a rare beast indeed :( However, like the dark theme discussion, it shows something of interest for Pharo: egoistic applications which takes over a full screen with their own selfish look and feel are perfectly fine :):) Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

by dimitris chloupis

sounds fun. I would love to see an undo system that does not make my head explode and do I dare say with some documentation included :D If that will be the case then I will love to implement this feature into the undo history, so that everyone is happy.Â

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Outdated Bug [7245] Autocomplete highlighting out of sync w editor after partial match

by dimitris chloupis

"We would love that somebody have a look and make this working really well.So if somebody wants to have a look.Â This is a kind of work that we want to do in Pharo 40: better tools Stef" I will take a look at it and see what I can do. Spotlight is really an important tool and its a pity its hidden in a shortcut and is not part of the world menu. I will try to spent some serious time with it and if I can even enhance it here and there. But I will have questions about it , so help me to help you ;)Â

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] default monospaced code font

by dimitris chloupis

"Which 3d apps has a nice GUI? I would be happy to have a look at itÂ AlexandreÂ " 1) Softimage XSI 2) Cinema 4D 3) Modo 4) Zbrush 5) Truespace 6) SketchupÂ and the list goes on and on and onÂ Blender also has very nice GUI, used to be awful at it, but a few years ago they committed the biggest Coding Sin, they rewrote the software and old GUI was thrown away. Its no Softimage but its a good example none the less. Definitely much better than Pharo.Â

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Outdated Bug [7245] Autocomplete highlighting out of sync w editor after partial match

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We would love that somebody have a look and make this working really well. So if somebody wants to have a look. This is a kind of work that we want to do in Pharo 40: better tools Stef > An additional problem is referring to old identifiers that are no longer in the image. > 1. Upack fresh #30487 build > 2. Create a new package 'MyXXXTest' > 3. Delete package 'MyYYYTest' > 4. Hit shift-enter to start Spotlight > 5. Type 'My' > Observe that MyYYYTest appears in the list. It should not since it does not exist. > Same behaviour if you create and immediately delete a class e.g. MyZ1Test > > Not sure whether that should be a separate Case. > cheers -ben > > btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: >> >> Refer to attached pic. When the Spotlight text jumps from 'Conf' to >> 'Configuration' by pressing <tab>, the list is not updated. >> Actually, why does the auto-completion jump from 'Conf' to 'Configuration' and >> not stop at 'Config' ? >> >> cheers -ben >> >> kilon wrote: >> > I still don't get it, I cant find any problem with the code completion in >> > spotlight. What I am missing ? >> > >> > It refers to an editor , which editor is that ? >> > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> > >> >> These things are all a bit hidden :( >> >> >> >> On 2013-10-15, at 21:22, kilon < >> >> >> > >> > >> >> thekilon@.co >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> Three issues here >> >>> >> >>> 1) Cant find "Partial" in code completion settings >> >>> >> >> => Complete common prefixes >> >> >> >>> 2) Cant find any tool named Spotlight >> >>> >> >> => shift + enter >> >> >> >> >> >>> 3) Code completion no longer uses tab >> >>> >> >> => Completion settings: Popup appears with this shortcut >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> signature.asc (457 bytes) >> >> <http://forum.world.st/attachment/4714636/0/signature.asc> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Outdated-Bug-7245-Autocomplete-highlighting-out-of-sy… >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> <Mail Attachment.png> >

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> thierry >> >> the one of alain is a simple do/undo now Epicea is a new changes model developed by martin and >> you raised a good point, we should look if Epicea could be used for RB undo. > > My point is: undo/redo is one API (Alain's), EPICEA would specialize that for code changes, and RB is also for code changes (is EPICEA able to represent RB operations?). We should check that. > > Also, would EPICEA come with a merge capability? It would beat any versionning system out there by providing better history understanding. This is exactly the goal of the phd of martin. - better supporting merging - I want a way to get the complete history of pharo and even do senders/implementors in the past :) Stef > > Thierry > >> Stef >> >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alain, >>> >>> thanks for the information. It looks very powerfull, I'll have to look into it. >>> >>> There is also a RB related history system, I'm using it in my browser. It's RBRefactoryChangeManager (is that the one Nautilus is using?). >>> >>> Thierry >>> >>> Le 16/10/2013 11:29, plantec a Ã©crit : >>>> You can have a look at Tests-SystemHistory. >>>> afaik, EditingState is the only user in the current system. >>>> Nautilus has its own. >>>> Will TxTextMorph have its own undo/redo framework too ? >>>> Cheers >>>> Alain >>>> >>>> Le 16 oct. 2013 Ã 11:14, plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 16 oct. 2013 Ã 08:07, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Undo framework? >>>>>> Where to see it? what the package name? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is System-History >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Alain >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/10/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>>>> please note that the re is a little undo frameworks made by alain plantec in the image. >>>>>> I think that phil is refeergin to paragraph and textEditor not undo/redo >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:02 AM, btc(a)openInWorld.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess Phil is referring to the difficulties of the current undo mechanism, which you've already discovered. >>>>>>> One of the problems with web interfaces to a mailling-list is sometimes losing context. (I'm using Thunderbird 2.0 and it doesn't do threads.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> btw, What is the plan/schdule for TxText integration into Pharo mainline? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kilon wrote: >>>>>>>> philippeback wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't enter that if you aren't ready to invest a couple of weeks. >>>>>>>>> TxText will change it all anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: I spent the couple of weeks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry don't understand what you mean . Are you referring to me ? Enter what >>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/bug-4993-Typing-cmd-L-cancel-all-typing-and-we-can-t-… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >>>>>>>> Nabble.com >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thierry Goubier >>> CEA list >>> Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex >>> France >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Oct. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old Compiler is now unload able!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Well said! Stef On Oct 16, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > This is amazing work! Thank you! > > I am an outsider in this topic, but I would kindly ask everyone to take a moment and consider the achievement. > > This is the first important sign of a long, tedious and highly undervalued work towards a goal set essentially from the very beginning of Pharo. It might not appear glamorous, but it certainly is a cornerstone. > > It is precisely this type of work that places Pharo in a land of its own. > > Doru > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > This opens a wide range of improvements. The future will be bright :). > Thanks clement, camillo and marcus for this effort. > Opal + slots will be really sexy. > > Stef > > > Bravo! > > > > Thierry > > > > Le 16/10/2013 11:15, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> You can now do: > >> > >> ScriptLoader new unloadPackageNamed: 'CompilerTests'. > >> ScriptLoader new unloadPackageNamed: 'Compiler'. > >> > >> and the system continues to work. > >> > >> > >> Marcus > >> > > > > -- > > Thierry Goubier > > CEA list > > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > > France > > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 16, 2013