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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo-project.org success stories link to be revised a bit...

by Tudor Girba

Thanks Phil for bringing this issue up. I do not have much time to devote to this right now, but perhaps others can help. Doru On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > As Doru mentioned, marketing of Pharo should be improved to get more > traction. > > Now, on http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories > > a serious bunch of links are not working, point to projects that are > abandoning Smalltalk for Javascript (Language of Languages) - link goes to > a page saying so -- bad karma. > > Even Esteban's Lawsuit Tracker is not the right URL (right one is * > http://smallworks.com.ar/web/projects/lawsuitTracker)*. > > Looks like other projects are not there anymore, click on the links for > issys or Ilon SA and end up waiting with nothing showing up. > > 2denker's http://taskfor.us/ is dead: 404 > > > So, some fixing needed. > > Are there new things in progress? I guess that QCMagritte guys could show > us something sexy. > > I am currently working on a new thing but it is too early to show. Anyway, > who has web apps not listed should give a link and a screenshot or two. > > Phil > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 22, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

by Igor Stasenko

On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to > support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy > development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use > it. Let me know if that is incorrect. > > The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo as backend. It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different backend(s), like opengl etc. I was wondering for what VMs Athens is applicable. Would it automatically > work on Linux? I've also been using Pharo / Squeak on the iPad. Would > Athens work there or would the VM have to be changed? > > For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens. As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it, but i am not expert in iOS to say if it can be done without much fuss. Also, since iOS is famous for banning any applications which using generated code, that means it should be done by writing a VM plugin and then adopting new primitives to work with Athens API.

Oct. 22, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unwind error during termination

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, I'm interested. Please send me the image in private mail not to overload the mailing list with large attachment. Alternatively, give me a place where I can download it. The steps to reproduce are: open the image, execute 1halt, close debugger ? Best, 2013/10/22 <btc(a)openinworld.com> > ** > For a while now, every now and then when closing a debugger I have been > getting an "Unwind error during termination" > > > > I happened to have saved the image moments before it just occurred again. > From opening that save error can be reliably triggered in three clicks. > I can provide this image if anyone is interested in it. > > cheers -ben >

Oct. 22, 2013

Pharo-project.org success stories link to be revised a bit...

by phil＠highoctane.be

As Doru mentioned, marketing of Pharo should be improved to get more traction. Now, on http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories a serious bunch of links are not working, point to projects that are abandoning Smalltalk for Javascript (Language of Languages) - link goes to a page saying so -- bad karma. Even Esteban's Lawsuit Tracker is not the right URL (right one is * http://smallworks.com.ar/web/projects/lawsuitTracker)*. Looks like other projects are not there anymore, click on the links for issys or Ilon SA and end up waiting with nothing showing up. 2denker's http://taskfor.us/ is dead: 404 So, some fixing needed. Are there new things in progress? I guess that QCMagritte guys could show us something sexy. I am currently working on a new thing but it is too early to show. Anyway, who has web apps not listed should give a link and a screenshot or two. Phil

Oct. 22, 2013

Unwind error during termination

by btc＠openinworld.com

Oct. 22, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core] b304de: 30515

by GitHub

Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b304de07315905f321112d7762afa3e226c14aa7 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b304de07315905f321112d77… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2013-10-22 (Tue, 22 Oct 2013) Changed paths: M Morphic-Base.package/HaloMorph.class/instance/private/addNameBeneath_string_.st R Morphic-Base.package/TextMorph.class/instance/anchors/adjustTextAnchor_.st M Morphic-Core.package/Morph.class/instance/private/privateFullMoveBy_.st A Nautilus.package/PackageTreeModel.class/instance/drag and drop/acceptDroppingMorph_event_inMorph_.st A Nautilus.package/PackageTreeModel.class/instance/drag and drop/wantsDroppedMorph_event_inMorph_.st R NautilusCommon.package/extension/RBBrowserEnvironment/instance/packageOrganizer.st R NautilusCommon.package/extension/RBBrowserEnvironmentWrapper/instance/packages.st A Refactoring-Environment.package/RBBrowserEnvironment.class/instance/private/packageOrganizer.st A Refactoring-Environment.package/RBBrowserEnvironmentWrapper.class/instance/accessing/packages.st A Refactoring-Environment.package/RBSelectorEnvironment.class/instance/accessing/packages.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script170.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30515.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30515 11970 simplify #privateFullMoveBy: and fix Halos https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11970 11971 PackageTreeNautilus drag and drop on the package tree https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/resolve/11971 11795 RBBrowserEnvironment packages method is too broad https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11795 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30515.zip

Oct. 22, 2013

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/30515 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Oct. 22, 2013

VM for Athens Graphics

by J.F. Rick

I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use it. Let me know if that is incorrect. I was wondering for what VMs Athens is applicable. Would it automatically work on Linux? I've also been using Pharo / Squeak on the iPad. Would Athens work there or would the VM have to be changed? Cheers, Jeff -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Oct. 22, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bisect with Pharo Launcher / Git

by Goubier Thierry

Le 22/10/2013 15:55, Bruni camillo a Ã©crit : > This is exactly the reason I started exporting everything to git and > archiving all the images in an accessible way :-P. It certainly was very helpfull and I'll use it again sooner or later. Would you happen to have a get.pharo.org way of getting a given image number? > it would be definitely nice to have this more automated. > On Oct 22, 2013 11:50 AM, <btc(a)openinworld.com > <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: > > I am probably not working on it anytime soon, but btw I logged the > idea last week of enhancing Pharo Launcher with some kind of support > for bisect operations. > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/__default.asp?11927 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11927>. > > cheers -ben > > Goubier Thierry wrote: > > Hi all, > > I want to thank the combination of Pharo Launcher and the > pharo-core github repo for earching a specific bug in Pharo 3, > linked to https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/__cases/11949/ > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11949/> : > > I noticed that the bug was introduced between 30450 and 30490. > With the Pharo launcher, I then went through a ad-hoc bisecting > (loading the right image version / launching it / testing) : > > Start point is 30450 No bug, 30490 bug. > > 30470 No bug > 30480 No > 30485 Bug > 30483 No > 30484 Bug > > Then I tried to view the changes in Morphic for the bug out of > the Monticello tools... Didn't work :( It's hard to guess which > versions have changed and when in relation to the image version > number. > > So I went to github/pharo-core and I searched for the relevant > commit: > > https://github.com/pharo-__project/pharo-core/commit/__5034553d07f342a5a0e5… > <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5034553d07f342a5a0e51275…> > > > And a file that could be relevant: > > https://github.com/pharo-__project/pharo-core/commit/__5034553d07f342a5a0e5… > <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5034553d07f342a5a0e51275…> > > > And there I could see things in relation with MorpTreeMorph... > Bug solved shortly thereafter. Damn Rectangle stuff :( > > Thanks again > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Oct. 22, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bisect with Pharo Launcher / Git

by Bruni camillo

On Oct 22, 2013 4:01 PM, "Goubier Thierry" <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr> wrote: > > > > Le 22/10/2013 15:55, Bruni camillo a Ã©crit : > >> This is exactly the reason I started exporting everything to git and >> archiving all the images in an accessible way :-P. > > > It certainly was very helpfull and I'll use it again sooner or later. > > Would you happen to have a get.pharo.org way of getting a given image number? Not yet, that is something we have to add. >> it would be definitely nice to have this more automated. > > > > >> On Oct 22, 2013 11:50 AM, <btc(a)openinworld.com >> <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: >> >> I am probably not working on it anytime soon, but btw I logged the >> idea last week of enhancing Pharo Launcher with some kind of support >> for bisect operations. >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/__default.asp?11927 >> <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11927>. >> >> >> cheers -ben >> >> Goubier Thierry wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I want to thank the combination of Pharo Launcher and the >> pharo-core github repo for earching a specific bug in Pharo 3, >> linked to https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/__cases/11949/ >> >> <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11949/> : >> >> I noticed that the bug was introduced between 30450 and 30490. >> With the Pharo launcher, I then went through a ad-hoc bisecting >> (loading the right image version / launching it / testing) : >> >> Start point is 30450 No bug, 30490 bug. >> >> 30470 No bug >> 30480 No >> 30485 Bug >> 30483 No >> 30484 Bug >> >> Then I tried to view the changes in Morphic for the bug out of >> the Monticello tools... Didn't work :( It's hard to guess which >> versions have changed and when in relation to the image version >> number. >> >> So I went to github/pharo-core and I searched for the relevant >> commit: >> >> https://github.com/pharo-__project/pharo-core/commit/__5034553d07f342a5a0e5… >> >> < https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5034553d07f342a5a0e51275… > >> >> >> And a file that could be relevant: >> >> https://github.com/pharo-__project/pharo-core/commit/__5034553d07f342a5a0e5… >> >> < https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5034553d07f342a5a0e51275… > >> >> >> And there I could see things in relation with MorpTreeMorph... >> Bug solved shortly thereafter. Damn Rectangle stuff :( >> >> Thanks again >> >> >> > > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Oct. 22, 2013